Great snes games that may have gone unnoticed

shadowcomplex · 15-04-2011 4:51pm #1

Actraiser
class game nice mix of rpg and action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLUlbnc11_w

Hagane
This is one im sure lots of people missed,game out towards the end of the snes's reign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqVf-jhS0Dc

Batman and Robin, based on the cartoon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNA9f4OBXe4

sparkster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tM1rAv8ay8

equinox
Hardest game ive ever played, couldnt finish it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2cR0ccDkIY&feature=related

the lost vikings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZItppVpUwwc

Retr0gamer · 15-04-2011 6:12pm

shadowcomplex · 15-04-2011 6:23pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I think anyone worth their salt would know those games. I'll add:

Majyuuou

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnlJWRS-Hx0

Pop n' Twinbee: Rainbow Bell Adventure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5-voOCUNf0

Shin Megami Tensei 1 and 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RXgmJy5dAU

Live a Live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySDLOw5JRJI

Do Re Mi Fantasy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T13NBQM-x8Y

Umihara Kawase

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYHMKyBmeCY

Earthbound (surpised so few people have played this):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3dIWyvNoxM

Demon's Crest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Wul48yU_c

The Firemen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn3FuXBHQHs

Wild Guns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjT7a8yn3Wc

Tetris Attack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3K2z91WLR8

When I was younger I bought an american snes and had all the great rpgs, FF6,chrono trigger,illusion of Gaia,mario rpg,earthbound etc
For some reason earthbound didnt really appeal to me, I couldnt take to the combat system, was addicted to ff6 and chrono trigger though

pdbhp · 15-04-2011 6:23pm

Sunset Riders for the win!!

Pyongyang · 15-04-2011 7:36pm

Mother 2 is one of my favorite games of all time. Here's a few more of my faves (yes, I do have a penchant for Japanese games!).

Chibimarukuchan Hopscotch 2
Ganbare Goemon
Doreamon
Super Astro Go! Go!
Bing! Bing! Bingo!
Dragon Quest V
Final Fantasy 6
Axelay
Super Puyo Puyo
Star Ocean
Ghost Sweeper Mikami
Super Back To The Future 2
Terranigma
Wildtrax
The Violinist Of Hamelin

Shall I go on....?

o1s1n · 15-04-2011 7:40pm

I think the Megadrive tops the Snes when it comes to great under appreciated/unheard of games. The vast majority of its better titles are pretty much unknown to your average gamer.

Pyongyang · 15-04-2011 7:45pm

o1s1n wrote: »

I think the Megadrive tops the Snes when it comes to great under appreciated/unheard of games. The vast majority of its better titles are pretty much unknown to your average gamer.

Although I consider the above statement an insult to my beloved SNES (I never owned an MD), I must admit my curiosity is perked. Especially as I want to play Pier Solar.

Sell me the Mega Drive dream! How? Simple. List me bunches of Japanese SHMUPS and I'm sold!

o1s1n · 15-04-2011 7:56pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

Although I consider the above statement an insult to my beloved SNES (I never owned an MD), I must admit my curiosity is perked. Especially as I want to play Pier Solar.

Sell me the Mega Drive dream! How? Simple. List me bunches of Japanese SHMUPS and I'm sold!

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore the Snes. However the vast majority of its best titles are well documented and known about. Okay, I'm sure there is a crap ton of Japanese only RPG games that were never localized..but you know what I mean

The Megadrive on the other hand...if you were to ask someone their favourite game, it tends to always be one of the following -

A Sonic game
Ecco
Micro Machines
Streets of Rage
Shinobi
Some sports game

I find a lot of people are totally missing out on a ton of fantastic Megadrive titles.

Your average snes game is more well known than things like Gunstar Heroes/Contra Hard Corps/Probotector /Alien Soldier/Mega Turrican/Comix Zone/Pulseman/Eliminate Down/Gleylancer/Hellfire/Ranger X/Rocket Knight Adventures/MUSHA/The Thunderforce Series/Sub Terrania/ Super Fantasy Zone/ The Story of Thor etc...and most of them were released in the west!

Jack burton · 15-04-2011 8:21pm

Jack Burtons Inner Monologue:

"Yeah O1s1ns got this one hooked too, no need for me to step in here, I'll just leave him work his magic"

shadowcomplex · 15-04-2011 9:04pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore the Snes. However the vast majority of its best titles are well documented and known about. Okay, I'm sure there is a crap ton of Japanese only RPG games that were never localized..but you know what I mean

The Megadrive on the other hand...if you were to ask someone their favourite game, it tends to always be one of the following -

A Sonic game
Ecco
Micro Machines
Streets of Rage
Shinobi
Some sports game

I find a lot of people are totally missing out on a ton of fantastic Megadrive titles.

Your average snes game is more well known than things like Gunstar Heroes/Contra Hard Corps/Probotector /Alien Soldier/Mega Turrican/Comix Zone/Pulseman/Eliminate Down/Gleylancer/Hellfire/Ranger X/Rocket Knight Adventures/MUSHA/The Thunderforce Series/Sub Terrania/ Super Fantasy Zone/ The Story of Thor etc...and most of them were released in the west!

rubbish, the snes had a far supieror library of games, and for the most part any game on the megadrive was outdone by its vastly superior snes counterpart

examples

alien 3, contra, super ghouls and ghosts,castlevania etc

shadowcomplex · 15-04-2011 9:08pm

This was very good megadrive game

soleil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq7fDSYeM84

o1s1n · 15-04-2011 10:06pm

shadowcomplex wrote: »

rubbish, the snes had a far supieror library of games, and for the most part any game on the megadrive was outdone by its vastly superior snes counterpart

examples

alien 3, contra, super ghouls and ghosts,castlevania etc

LOL

wait, that wasn't loud enough

LOL

1 - I did not say the Megadrive has a better library of games. I said the Megadrive wins when it comes to unheard of games as most of the systems better games are unknown.

2 - The Snes is not 'vastly' superior. The fact that you think that shows how little you know.

3 -

Alien 3 is a **** game

Contra Hard Corps is far superior to the extremely overrated Contra Alien Wars.

Super Ghouls n Ghosts? You kidding me? It is nowhere near as good as the almost arcade conversion perfect Ghouls n Ghosts on the Megadrive. This is a simple fact - no arguing.

Never heard of Castlevania Bloodlines, no?

megaten · 15-04-2011 11:13pm

There was a Sailor Moon rpg on the snes that got fan translated. Haven't played it yet though.

Dr Bob · 15-04-2011 11:13pm

I've had a few pints tonight but I have to post!

The snes was a good system , but not counting flagship first party releases there was a lot of ....well sh!te released for it

, Sega's system had a fair amount of shovelware as well but the signal to noise ratio was a lot better.
Decent meg games?Shooters like :
Granada,(really cool top down tank shooter),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzMlGpl2SPI&feature=related
Gynoug,Slapfight md, Hellfire and thunderforce II-IV were great.
It had some fantastic ports of games like Mercs, Gauntlet,Golden Axe and Strider. Ea had some fantastic games like the roadrash's the desert strike series , and my personal favourite Starflight.
Oh yeah :Gunstar heroes, Castle of Illusion,Rocket Knight adventures.
I'm going to post more games tomorrow when I've a clear head (and a hangover:))

(btw Rpg wise , the meg had more western RPG's with the likes of the TSR stuff (buck rogers/warriors of the eternal sun),Rings of power, Amiga ports like corporation.I've never been a big fan of Jrpgs , so the lack of dragon quest/square stuff never bothered me at all)

Retr0gamer · 16-04-2011 9:14am

Kind of have to disagree with you there o1s1n. The megadrive tends to have a very western centric library while the SNES has a whole heap of very obscure games that never madeit outside japan. Think the SNES beats it hands down in videogaming obscura and most of the megadrive games you mentioned I wouldn't class as obscure.

As fro Earthbound. Give it a chance, it will surpriseyou with how deep it really is.

Definitely wouldn't say the SNES was vastly superior but it really did have a better library than the megadrive. Both machines are essential however.

CiDeRmAn · 16-04-2011 11:14am

Great Zombie Jesus, do we have to have this p1ssing contest again and again?
I don't care which has the superior game library, I have both machines and most of the games I'll ever want on them.
I think we'll have to make rule about fanboys being allowed post here! Ban them outright!

shadowcomplex · 16-04-2011 12:01pm

o1s1n wrote: »

LOL

wait, that wasn't loud enough

LOL

1 - I did not say the Megadrive has a better library of games. I said the Megadrive wins when it comes to unheard of games as most of the systems better games are unknown.

2 - The Snes is not 'vastly' superior. The fact that you think that shows how little you know.

3 -

Alien 3 is a **** game

Contra Hard Corps is far superior to the extremely overrated Contra Alien Wars.

Super Ghouls n Ghosts? You kidding me? It is nowhere near as good as the almost arcade conversion perfect Ghouls n Ghosts on the Megadrive. This is a simple fact - no arguing.

Never heard of Castlevania Bloodlines, no?

Alien 3 is a **** game? have you seen the reviews this got when it came out?, almost every magazine gave it a 90% plus review, and no its not a simple fact that megadrive ghouls and ghosts is better than the snes version , of course your entitled to your opinion, im entitled to mine, but this along with all the another games, super ghouls and ghosts ,castlevania etc all got better reviews on the snes at the time by all the mags at the time so no its definitely not a simple fact , but of course as ive already mentioned your entitled to your opinion but when the majority overwhemly agree with me that should tell you something

CiDeRmAn · 16-04-2011 1:01pm

Alien 3 isn't dung but it isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread either.
The visuals are nice and atmospheric but the game has feck all to do with the movie and The gameplay is a bit repetitive.

Many well reviewed Snes games were well reviewed In Snes mags.
Contra on the Snes was great but it was a technical marvel on the MD.
Castlevania I didn't play a whole lot of but remember the best games of the series were not just on the snes, the MD, pc engine, nes and later the ps all hosted must have episodes of the series.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion.
If you post your opinion here you have to expect that, almost immediately, an opposing point of view to be posted.

There are very few definites here, aside from the need for all self respecting retro gamers to own both MD and Snes.

As a matter of interest Shadowcomplex do you own both MD and Snes?
What are your favourite MD games?

Let's not have tempers here, thank you very much, the thumb of doom is lingering over.the warning button here on the browser screen of my phone!

shadowcomplex · 16-04-2011 1:33pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Alien 3 isn't dung but it isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread either.
The visuals are nice and atmospheric but the game has feck all to do with the movie and The gameplay is a bit repetitive.

Many well reviewed Snes games were well reviewed In Snes mags.
Contra on the Snes was great but it was a technical marvel on the MD.
Castlevania I didn't play a whole lot of but remember the best games of the series were not just on the snes, the MD, pc engine, nes and later the ps all hosted must have episodes of the series.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion.
If you post your opinion here you have to expect that, almost immediately, an opposing point of view to be posted.

There are very few definites here, aside from the need for all self respecting retro gamers to own both MD and Snes.

As a matter of interest Shadowcomplex do you own both MD and Snes?
What are your favourite MD games?

Let's not have tempers here, thank you very much, the thumb of doom is lingering over.the warning button here on the browser screen of my phone!

I dont think threatening me with a warning is warrented to be honest, Im just giving my opinion, i havent been abusive or nasty in my responses in fact I think the comments o1s1n made( "LOL wait, that wasn't loud enough LOL") and ("The fact that you think that shows how little you know.") were an attempt to try and bait me

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 16-04-2011 3:15pm

Both had strengths and weakness,snes wasn't built for speed but had great graphical tricky when came to it,MD had support of arcade ports+speed in games.

Snes in later years did edge over the MD with some of the games that would had fitted an 32bit release.

I think if the big N didnt have such tight family policy+licence control on the snes,might had some superior port of games.

CiDeRmAn · 16-04-2011 3:29pm

Best not to take things quite so personally here, opinions are like sphincters, everyone has a few.
Also, a sense of humour is useful here too.
Even fanboys don't get warnings, just abuse!

pdbhp · 16-04-2011 4:39pm

SNES & MD are garbage it's all about that monochrome marvel the Gameboy:D
The Gameboy had 3 Castlevania Games and 2 Contra games it also had 2 Ghouls n Ghosts games, so to summarise the Gameboy pwns the SNES and MD...
:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

pdbhp · 16-04-2011 5:03pm

I'd also like to add that the GB has Metroid 2 Return of Samus aswell so win number 2 for GB:D

Dr Bob · 16-04-2011 7:55pm

pdbhp wrote: »

Gameboy pwns the SNES and MD...
:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

f£ck that
THE Atari V.C.S IS THE GREATEST CONSOLE OF ALL TIME

ATARI4LIFE Daaawg!!

pdbhp · 16-04-2011 7:58pm

luas_dublin wrote: »

f£ck that
THE Atari V.C.S IS THE GREATEST CONSOLE OF ALL TIME

ATARI4LIFE Daaawg!!

E.T..... that is all:p

CiDeRmAn · 17-04-2011 8:26am

Is it too late to vote for the Atari Jaguar?

Oh, sorry, the parties over....

I'll get my coat

Mr.Saturn · 17-04-2011 1:38pm

Earthbound, this needs a VC rerelease or somesuch, preferably the three parts but folk need to play this baby. I mean, if Itoi did in a novel or a comic or a film what he managed to do with the narrative of Earthbound, he'd be hailed but it's videogames, so it's relegated to the dark recesses of cyberland, to be bandied about by folk like us. I mean, can anyone else cite an example of a writer making what is essentially a parody, but still managing to sneak a proper, meaty tale in there too? When I got to the credits, I clapped. Ditto for Mother 3.

CiDeRmAn · 17-04-2011 1:54pm

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Earthbound, this needs a VC rerelease or somesuch, preferably the three parts but folk need to play this baby. I mean, if Itoi did in a novel or a comic or a film what he managed to do with the narrative of Earthbound, he'd be hailed but it's videogames, so it's relegated to the dark recesses of cyberland, to be bandied about by folk like us. I mean, can anyone else cite an example of a writer making what is essentially a parody, but still managing to sneak a proper, meaty tale in there too? When I got to the credits, I clapped. Ditto for Mother 3.

You're not Retr0 in disguise, are you?
I mean, if you're not, then Sera, could be some serious bro'mance incoming!

o1s1n · 17-04-2011 4:32pm

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Alien 3 is a **** game? have you seen the reviews this got when it came out?, almost every magazine gave it a 90% plus review, and no its not a simple fact that megadrive ghouls and ghosts is better than the snes version , of course your entitled to your opinion, im entitled to mine, but this along with all the another games, super ghouls and ghosts ,castlevania etc all got better reviews on the snes at the time by all the mags at the time so no its definitely not a simple fact , but of course as ive already mentioned your entitled to your opinion but when the majority overwhemly agree with me that should tell you something

Reviews aren't really worth much to be honest. I have Alien 3 on the Megadrive, Snes and Amiga..and after playing all three, there are far far better games out there.

It is a simple fact that MD Ghouls and Ghosts is better than the Snes version. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, yes, but there are straight facts which really can't be argued with.

For example -

'A Nissan Micra is better than a Ferarri'

'Of course it's not'

'...well I'm entitled to my opinion'

See what I'm getting at?

As for my goading you, - I was playing, this forum is never serious business.
If you quote me, call what I said rubbish and then proceed to completely miss the point what I was saying, I'm obviously going to point it out.

Now for what I had actually posted (something which has gone totally overlooked)

Of course the Snes has a more obscure library. It has a **** ton of Japanese games which weren't released here.

What I was getting at is ratio wise, MORE of the Megadrives better games are unknown to your average gamer than the Sneses best games.

If you asked me have I played Super Metroid, Super Mario World or A Link to the Past, I'm obviously going to say yes.

If I asked you had you played MUSHA, Contra Hard Corps or Alien Soldier, there's a much higher probability you'd say no.

I'm not saying the Megadrive games are better, I'm saying that system wise, more of it's best games are unknown to average joe soap gamer. Which is a sad fact to be honest. A lot of people missed some great games.

Now with that clarified, I am going to run away from this thread and think twice about posting after having 6 pints in future

shadowcomplex · 17-04-2011 5:42pm

o1s1n wrote: »

It is a simple fact that MD Ghouls and Ghosts is better than the Snes version.

Based on what? If its only your opinion then it cant be a simple fact , the fact is this both games got well into the 90's when they were both released with the snes version getting a slightly higher review in most magazines, snes version got 94% and the megadrive version got 92% in mean machines magazine, what this tells me and what it should tell you is that the games were very similar in quality and which ever you prefer is based on personal preference

heres the review of the snes version

http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/review/215/super-ghouls-n-ghosts.php

Review of the megadrive version

http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/review/4/ghouls-n-ghosts.php

Oh and you cant say reviews dont matter because they do, they are of course only opinions like mine and yours but when the majority from different people say that super ghouls and ghosts on the snes is slightly better then the megadrive version then that only adds weight to my argument that the snes version is better

Retr0gamer · 17-04-2011 7:48pm

Goldeneye is regarded as one fo the best FPS games of all time despite being barely playable. Anyone can do a review but if you can't trust the opinion of the person writing it then what's the point. Also all reviews are subjective. Just because something has a higher metacritic score doesn't mean it's better.

Mr.Saturn · 18-04-2011 3:19pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

You're not Retr0 in disguise, are you?
I mean, if you're not, then Sera, could be some serious bro'mance incoming!

Nope, I still quite like Goldeneye.:D

appleidog · 19-04-2011 7:54am

Was going to say The Firemen, what an amazing game, its a crime that it wasn't ported to GBA.

Pyongyang · 19-04-2011 1:50pm

Forgot to mention classic beat em up's on the SNES such as:

BASTARD!!!
Any of the Dragonball games.
Tuff E Nuff aka Dead Dance (which also wins the award for best 'who the hell took 3 seconds to greenlight that?' box art in history)

Rival Turf (which also wins the award for worst box art in history)

Even the Japanese box art is equally camp:

Shame, it's a great game.

CiDeRmAn · 19-04-2011 2:06pm

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Based on what? If its only your opinion then it cant be a simple fact , the fact is this both games got well into the 90's when they were both released with the snes version getting a slightly higher review in most magazines, snes version got 94% and the megadrive version got 92% in mean machines magazine, what this tells me and what it should tell you is that the games were very similar in quality and which ever you prefer is based on personal preference

heres the review of the snes version

http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/review/215/super-ghouls-n-ghosts.php

Review of the megadrive version

http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/review/4/ghouls-n-ghosts.php

Oh and you cant say reviews dont matter because they do, they are of course only opinions like mine and yours but when the majority from different people say that super ghouls and ghosts on the snes is slightly better then the megadrive version then that only adds weight to my argument that the snes version is better

The MD version is commonly considered the better of the two I'm afraid, doesn't mean that the Snes game isn't great, just not as great.

Aren't we past all this bull about the Snes and MD?
I mean it's all so far in the past, why are some people still hung up on it?

I love my MD and my Snes, but the MD gets more play, just the way it is.

Retr0gamer · 19-04-2011 2:51pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

Tuff E Nuff aka Dead Dance (which also wins the award for best 'who the hell took 3 seconds to greenlight that?' box art in history)

Rival Turf (which also wins the award for worst box art in history)

I will see your Tuff E Nuff and Rival Turf and raise you Phalanx for worst box art ever:

Optimus Prime · 19-04-2011 3:13pm

Krustys Fun House was a great game i thought. and loved wwf Royal Rumble :pac:

Pyongyang · 19-04-2011 3:24pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I will see your Tuff E Nuff and Rival Turf and raise you Phalanx for worst box art ever:

I'll see your (admittedly excellent) Phalanx and raise you Metro Cross on the PC:

Retr0gamer · 19-04-2011 3:35pm

Touche and well played my good sir. I doff my cap to you.

Pyongyang · 19-04-2011 3:41pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Touche and well played my good sir. I doff my cap to you.

Your cap isn't a certain yellow plastic skate helmet made ooh, around 15 years or so ago is it?

Optimus Prime · 19-04-2011 4:25pm

has anyone played this?

SirLemonhead · 19-04-2011 11:58pm

or this?

top-25-tuesday-most-awesome-covers-20070327025741870.jpg

Mcjmetroid · 03-05-2011 12:29am

Pyongyang wrote: »

I'll see your (admittedly excellent) Phalanx and raise you Metro Cross on the PC:

I'll raise you one..........oh forget it

For snes games:

Super Turrican ( one of the first games with Dolby Surround I ever seen)
Twinbee pop ( sparkster but... well better)
Mario and wario ( requires a snes mouse)
Graduis III( not too out there, but just in case)

Great snes games that may have gone unnoticed

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