jobs 'initiative next month

mcriot29

hey anyone have any ideas what jobs 'initiative will mean for gift tax etc
iv heard fine gail will lower the amount a parent can give to there child as gift
or will this not go lower till the main budget in dec
Reason i ask is so i can get the max amount gifted to me now rather then risk this mini budget in may

jakdelad

forget about gifttax
where you been??, its more pain more taxes
you see they have no plan , well there is a plan
to gut every tax paying slob in the country with more taxes
while seanie plays golf,the big fish always get away

RichardAnd

The rumours I've heard hint that the "jobs initiative" will consists of thousands of unpaid internships that could be mandatory. It will be interesting

Sea Sharp

RichardAnd wrote: »

The rumours I've heard hint that the "jobs initiative" will consists of thousands of unpaid internships that could be mandatory. It will be interesting

If it's cheap labour for the construction of renewable energy infrastructure or academic research in the same area I'm all for it.

Hopefully it won't just be free slaves for the local Tesco and SuperMacs.

MagicSean

Apparently they will increase the minimum wage. I fail to see how this will improve employment or fdi.

RichardAnd

Sea Sharp wrote: »

If it's cheap labour for the construction of renewable energy infrastructure or academic research in the same area I'm all for it.

Even if that's what's planned, those working on it deserve to be paid. You can't have proper research done by people who aren't getting a wage, it's just not going to work. A line needs to be drawn under this working for free nonsense before it becomes too accepted.

Groinshot

RichardAnd wrote: »

Even if that's what's planned, those working on it deserve to be paid. You can't have proper research done by people who aren't getting a wage, it's just not going to work. A line needs to be drawn under this working for free nonsense before it becomes too accepted.

That's true too, take my case-university student with decent grades that can't get a paid internship, and is struggling to get an unpaid internship. However, there are people out there that have been on social welfare for years now, and who probably aren't going to bother doing anything about it- so keeping on paying them the dole while they work for free for these companies is only a good thing.

RichardAnd

Groinshot wrote: »

That's true too, take my case-university student with decent grades that can't get a paid internship, and is struggling to get an unpaid internship. However, there are people out there that have been on social welfare for years now, and who probably aren't going to bother doing anything about it- so keeping on paying them the dole while they work for free for these companies is only a good thing.

That is true but the wasters on the dole won't be the ones who will be out working for free. Alot of the career dolers are utterly unemployable, even if wages aren't part of the deal thus, they won't be affected by any such scheme. It's not easy to seperate those who can work but don't from those who simply can't so I would wager the ones sent out to work for nothing will be unfortunate people who are unemployed through no fault of their own.

Free labour is something that I see creeping back into the jobs market and I find it destressing. Men died for workers to be treated fairly and I don't think they would have liked to see such unfair treatment returning under whatever euphemisms HR managers can dream up unpaid work.

Cookie_Monster

k_mac wrote: »

Apparently they will increase the minimum wage. I fail to see how this will improve employment or fdi.

I think the IMF may step in on that one.

The jobs budget won't be great IMO and certainly won't be short term.
A few % of employer prsi maybe, no real benefit there
A few "eco-jobs" that might appear in 10 years

MagicSean

A real improvement would be for the government to subsidise the pay of people who are employed from the dole queue.

50% of wages up to a maximum of say €150 for the first year
35% of wages for the second
15% of wages for the third
5% of wages for the fourth

This would allow small businesses to hire that extra staff member they need. Or it would allow larger companies to hire three people where they would have originally only hired 2.

crossmolinalad

They have to do what Holland did in 1980
Roll out a full infrastructure all over the country
Those years they dug up all the roads putting in new power lines every house was connected on natural gas sewer systems cable tv new phone lines (broadband) new water mains
All of the utility companies were working together so a road would be opened once for everyone
after that they laid in new roads
plenty unemployed construction workers on the dole to do this job

RichardAnd

crossmolinalad wrote: »

They have to do what Holland did in 1980
Roll out a full infrastructure all over the country
Those years they dug up all the roads putting in new power lines every house was connected on natural gas sewer systems cable tv new phone lines (broadband) new water mains
All of the utility companies were working together so a road would be opened once for everyone
after that they laid in new roads
plenty unemployed construction workers on the dole to do this job

A great idea but we don't have the money to pay the workers who would be doing the work.

MagicSean

crossmolinalad wrote: »

They have to do what Holland did in 1980
Roll out a full infrastructure all over the country
Those years they dug up all the roads putting in new power lines every house was connected on natural gas sewer systems cable tv new phone lines (broadband) new water mains
All of the utility companies were working together so a road would be opened once for everyone
after that they laid in new roads
plenty unemployed construction workers on the dole to do this job

If this had been done just as the housing boom ended it would have been an ideal way to keep people in employment.

macannrb

k_mac wrote: »

A real improvement would be for the government to subsidise the pay of people who are employed from the dole queue.

This already happens. For long term unemployeed that the business brings on board, they get a tax reduction for the first year I think. So they write if off against tax

macannrb

k_mac wrote: »

If this had been done just as the housing boom ended it would have been an ideal way to keep people in employment.

We don't have the money to pay for them on the dole, so we dont' have the money for the government to pay for them to work

But we do badly need to upgrade our infrastructure in Ireland