'Hooked' - revised/updated

Kevinmarkham

A few people have pm'd me to ask when the revised edition of Hooked is coming out... so I hope the Mods don't mind this post.

The book is on the shelves, as of last week or so. New front cover, this time with Druid's Glen's 8th hole.

What's new? The biggest changes were to green fees which have fallen spectacularly - up to 60% in places, although the 'big' courses are not quite so generous. There are three new courses and several courses have been updated due to new holes, new routings or a new clubhouse.

Sadly, the book had gone to print before news of the demise of Kilkea Castle, Limerick County and Turvey were announced... so they're still in the book.

ssbob

Kevinmarkham wrote: »

A few people have pm'd me to ask when the revised edition of Hooked is coming out... so I hope the Mods don't mind this post.

The book is on the shelves, as of last week or so. New front cover, this time with Druid's Glen's 8th hole.

What's new? The biggest changes were to green fees which have fallen spectacularly - up to 60% in places, although the 'big' courses are not quite so generous. There are three new courses and several courses have been updated due to new holes, new routings or a new clubhouse.

Sadly, the book had gone to print before news of the demise of Kilkea Castle, Limerick County and Turvey were announced... so they're still in the book.

Hi kevin love the book, gonna try out some of those hidden gems

conno16

Kevinmarkham wrote: »

Sadly, the book had gone to print before news of the demise of Kilkea Castle, Limerick County and Turvey were announced... so they're still in the book.

likely that many of the courses included will be closed by the end of the year.
have you considered writing a similar book on ghost estates, nama buildings, aib banks, etc

Anatom

Thanks Kevin

I had been wondering when it was due and am going to head out and get it this lunchtime! Genuinely looking forward to it!:D

I think a book like this, being as it is a listing of clubs and all that goes with it, can only ever offer a snapshot in time of what's out there, so I wouldn't worry about including clubs who have, unfortunately, gone out of business.

As Conno says, there'll probably be a few more clubs in that position before the end of the year. Ten years ago, we would have said the opposite, but they're the cards we've been dealt for this hand...

Sandwlch

Kevin, any chance of posting the additions on the new courses for your fellow Boards members who already have the first edition ?

conno16

ya then you can print out the text and sellotape it onto the back cover

i know theres a recession out there but c'mon ffs

Kevinmarkham

Sandwlch wrote: »

Kevin, any chance of posting the additions on the new courses for your fellow Boards members who already have the first edition ?

In fairness, Conno, two of those new courses have been reviewed on my blog, so they're not that difficult to find.

Sandwlch - take a look - they include scores as well as reviews. And lots of photographs too!

pauldoo

is there anywhere i can download this for free

Kevinmarkham

pauldoo wrote: »

is there anywhere i can download this for free

Yep, sure, pop round to my house, pay me €200 for a night's B&B and I'll let you download it for free while you're here. Bargain!

conno16

sounds a little suspect.

pauldoo

200 quid is a bit much, anywhere i could sleep for free??

f22

pauldoo wrote: »

is there anywhere i can download this for free

Are you for ****ing real pal, asking an author where you can download his book for free?

The clowns are out in droves the last week, someone call the circus to retrieve them, quick!

pauldoo

Obviously joking!

f22

pauldoo wrote: »

Obviously joking!

Really? I'm splitting my sides laughing here!

Dr_Colossus

Do you sell the book directly Kevin or does one have to buy it through Easons or other such bookseller, what's the RRP. I see it on amazon.co.uk for £11.69 so is there an option to purchase for a similar price in this unfair land?

pauldoo

f22 wrote: »

Really? I'm splitting my sides laughing here!

you seem a bit wound up, maybe you shouldn't take internet message boards so seriously!

Kevinmarkham

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Do you sell the book directly Kevin or does one have to buy it through Easons or other such bookseller, what's the RRP. I see it on amazon.co.uk for £11.69 so is there an option to purchase for a similar price in this unfair land?

It's €15 this time around (versus €20 for the 1st edition), and Easons etc. might be your best bet. I have a bunch of copies so I sell them directly, but with postage being €6 it's not exactly worth it! So, we'd have to meet up... which would mean meeting at a golf club, which would mean playing a round of golf, which would mean me taking at least a fiver off you, cos I don't play for anything less... do you really want to go through all that pain!

Several of the clubs I rated highly are also selling the book (Rathcore, Portarlington, Portumna...), but I don't know if they have the new edition yet.

Anatom

"Quote:
you seem a bit wound up, maybe you shouldn't take internet message boards so seriously!"


Oxford Dictionary definition of humour = "the quality in something that makes it funny or amusing; the ability to laugh at things that are amusing".

You're not funny pal...

Legwinski

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Hooked-Kevin-Markham/9781848891067

€11.73 here with free delivery. I assume you get paid same no matter where people buy from?

f22

pauldoo wrote: »

you seem a bit wound up, maybe you shouldn't take internet message boards so seriously!

I find it insulting you would use a thread started by the author of a book and regular poster here to ask where you could download it free.

You weren't joking, you simply backtracked when you were questioned on the matter.

pauldoo

yes i was joking, i would have no interest in downloading a book, never mind seriously asking the author where i can steal his work. You have a serious attitiude pal!

Sorry to kevin for your thread getting sidetracked. I wont make another post or reply to a reponse about "my joke"

Kevinmarkham

Aha Shake wrote: »

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Hooked-Kevin-Markham/9781848891067

€11.73 here with free delivery. I assume you get paid same no matter where people buy from?

That's a good price! And I don't actually know if it makes a difference to my royalty payment.

Mister Sifter

Kevinmarkham wrote: »

That's a good price! And I don't actually know if it makes a difference to my royalty payment.

Sure, how many Bentleys does a man need anyway...

conno16

if you think i'm buying a third edition you can get fooked kevin

ThunderCat

conno16 wrote: »

if you think i'm buying a third edition you can get fooked kevin

Good one Conno:)

Im gonna wait for the fifth edition to come out and then ill get the box set.:D

Ah no, to be fair I bought the first edition as soon as I saw it and ive leafed through it many times. What suprised me when I first got the book was how many of the courses up north id never heard of.

Anyway, best of luck with the sales of the second edition Kevin. Great photo to have on the cover too. That 8th at Druids Glen is about as close to Augusta as any of us will ever get.

Anatom

Kevinmarkham wrote: »

A few people have pm'd me to ask when the revised edition of Hooked is coming out... so I hope the Mods don't mind this post.

The book is on the shelves, as of last week or so. New front cover, this time with Druid's Glen's 8th hole.

What's new? The biggest changes were to green fees which have fallen spectacularly - up to 60% in places, although the 'big' courses are not quite so generous. There are three new courses and several courses have been updated due to new holes, new routings or a new clubhouse.

Bought this the other day Kevin and am very impressed, especially by the description of my own club (Curragh) and others that I know!!

Well done and thanks for what will, I'm sure, become a very handy reference!

thewobbler

Got the book the other day Kevin and I've enjoyed it immensely.

Next time you're up North though you should take a chance to revise Warrenpoint. I generally found it hard to disagree with many of your reviews or rankings. But being a Newry man who spent the past year looking around for which club to join, it's hard to believe that you ranked the likes of Tandragee, Ballymascanlon, Greenore, and (uurgh) Banbridge above it, or Cloverhill right with it. I'd tend to agree that Kilkeel is a better course, but not 14 points better!

Warrenpoint is too short and on top of itself to be considered a great course, but as a fun, fair, mature, and very well maintained course, it got my vote by some distance.

CaptainPendulum

Hi Kevin,

Conrads on the release. I was in Waterstones last week and flicked through it to see my own course (Fota) and noticed that the entry was almost word-for-word the same as the first edition (which I have). Am I right that the new edition has Druids Glen on the cover?

Thanks,
CP

dirkvandyke

f22 wrote: »

I find it insulting you would use a thread started by the author of a book and regular poster here to ask where you could download it free.

You weren't joking, you simply backtracked when you were questioned on the matter.

I think it was pretty obvious that he was taking the piss and smiled to myself when I read it, just thought I'd throw that out there to balance things a bit...

on another note, been meaning to buy this book for ages- gonna do it now!

Kevinmarkham

[QUOTE=Anatom;[URL="javascript:void(0)"]71797075[/URL]]Bought this the other day Kevin and am very impressed, especially by the description of my own club (Curragh) and others that I know!![/QUOTE]

I thought the Curragh was a great track - rough around the edges, sure, but a great location and a very different track to elsewhere. Adds a huge amount of charm. I wonder how many people realise it's the oldest course in Ireland.


[QUOTE=thewobbler;[URL="javascript:void(0)"]71806874[/URL]] Next time you're up North though you should take a chance to revise Warrenpoint... it's hard to believe that you ranked the likes of Tandragee, Ballymascanlon, Greenore, and (uurgh) Banbridge above it, or Cloverhill right with it. I'd tend to agree that Kilkeel is a better course, but not 14 points better!

Warrenpoint is too short and on top of itself to be considered a great course, but as a fun, fair, mature, and very well maintained course, it got my vote by some distance.[/QUOTE]

Nice one Wobbler, always good to hear people disagreeing - that's kinda the point of subjective reviews! Warrenpoint is one of several courses that really 'bigs' itself up (take a look also at the comments on the Faithlegg thread that's doing the rounds at the moment). I haven't got the book to hand but I do remember thinking, when the really good holes came along at the end of the round, 'well, it's a bit late now - I've lost interest'. If I'm up your way, I'll drop you a line and you can take me around and show me the course from your perspective. As for Banbridge and Cloverhill etc., I agree that they're not as 'good' as Warrenpoint in terms of quality and traditional layout/design, but the points add up in different ways.

[QUOTE=CaptainPendulum;[URL="javascript:void(0)"]71810626[/URL]]Hi Kevin,

Am I right that the new edition has Druids Glen on the cover?
CP[/QUOTE]

Yep, that's right. A lot of the courses have been revised CP, but mostly the changes are new green fee rates. The 1st edition sold out so the publisher wanted to re-print. I pointed out that green fees had changed significantly and that these should be incorporated. Some courses have new holes/layouts/clubhouses and then there's the new courses, but I haven't been back to places like Fota Island to give them a new review.

As much as I fancy another year's touring, my wife would remove my balls... and then what would I play with!

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Whyner

Kevinmarkham wrote: »

It's €15 this time around (versus €20 for the 1st edition), and Easons etc. might be your best bet. I have a bunch of copies so I sell them directly, but with postage being €6 it's not exactly worth it! So, we'd have to meet up... which would mean meeting at a golf club, which would mean playing a round of golf, which would mean me taking at least a fiver off you, cos I don't play for anything less... do you really want to go through all that pain!

Several of the clubs I rated highly are also selling the book (Rathcore, Portarlington, Portumna...), but I don't know if they have the new edition yet.

I bought a couple of copies of the first edition off Austin in Rathcore a while back, think he threw the second one in half price. My mate and I have got some serious wear out of them. It's his turn to replay the favour so I'll let him know the second edition is OUT NOW!

Boden08

Lent my copy of the first edition to a friend, but have now sourced the latest edition from Book Depository so he can keep the old one at this stage!

dixiefly

I bought the 1st edition in Easons as a present for someone. I think I recall that Killeen Castle was not included, I think you said that they only allowed you play after you had the book finalised.

Is it in the new edition?

Boden08

P223 in revised edition...