Social welfare fraud

champie

Not sure if I'm on right forum I'm new to this. But I really would like to know what people think I should do My ex-husband is on disability and hasn't worked in 3yrs he is claiming rent allowance on an apartment he doesn't live in he lives nearly 100miles away with his girlfriend and their 2 children he comes down once a week to sign on and collect his rent allowance. I have a son with this man who he doesn't see when he is down collecting his payments he has seen him for about 5hrs so far this year. My son has written him off says he doesn't have a father anymore.

Should I report him I am so angry I really don't know what to do

mikemac

Are you reporting him over the fraud or just feeling bitter towards your ex? Possibly both?

I would say:
Report the fraud
Then forget about him, you seem to have a lot of knowledge of his whereabouts and relationships. So get over it and don't even think about him.

Regarding access, leave that up to your son, he can decide what he wants

paddy147

champie wrote: »

Not sure if I'm on right forum I'm new to this. But I really would like to know what people think I should do My ex-husband is on disability and hasn't worked in 3yrs he is claiming rent allowance on an apartment he doesn't live in he lives nearly 100miles away with his girlfriend and their 2 children he comes down once a week to sign on and collect his rent allowance. I have a son with this man who he doesn't see when he is down collecting his payments he has seen him for about 5hrs so far this year. My son has written him off says he doesn't have a father anymore.

Should I report him I am so angry I really don't know what to do

I think you yould disscuss the matter with your ex-husband 1st,with regards seeing his son,before you post about it here.It also sounds and comes accross like you are stalking/tracking your ex-husbands movements,which isnt realy right,seen as hes your "ex-husband".

You have posted this exact thread in 2 different places now,on this forum.To me,that is not normal or right and smells of a personal bitterness,stalking,revenge type thing.

Personal bitterness and/or revenge doesnt solve anything,and wont solve anything.

Move on with your own life.

sandra06

normally i would say mind your own buisness but scxxw that report him ,revenge is sweet

Shield

Purely on a point of morality, I say report him. You know a crime of fraud is potentially being committed, and society relies on its citizens to play their part when it comes to such matters.

paddy147

sandra06 wrote: »

normally i would say mind your own buisness but scxxw that report him ,revenge is sweet

Actually its not sweet at all,as it leads to more and more of it and sometimes stalking that can land a person in alot of trouble with the law and with any family members who become caught up in it or affected by it..

champie

I know about his where about because he told me I would prefer if I never had to talk to him again and I have discussed him seeing his son but I cannot make him a good father. He has never been stopped seeing his son whenever he wanted to it is now his sons choice not to see him not mine.

I didn't realise there was a deicated state benefit forum on this as it is my 1st time using it I would just like some advise as to what to do

mikemac

champie wrote: »

just like some advise as to what to do

If you come to a state benefit forum and ask about reporting fraud you already know the answer you are going to get!
Of course you'll be told to report and you knew this already

But it seems this is less about fraud and more about bitterness and revenge
And for that, I think you should get your thread moved over to Personal Issues forum where you'd get advice

sandra06

paddy147 wrote: »

Actually its not sweet at all,as it leads to more and more of it and sometimes stalking that can land a person in alot of trouble with the law and with any family members who become caught up in it or affected by it..

you got ur own issues there,whatever they may be ,i was just giving my opinion ,social fraud is illegal, and maybe this woman needs clousure on this guy .

CoolGirl101

If you were still with him, you probably wouldn't report him, so why do it now just because of your own personal resentment?
That's kind of changing your morals to suit yourself.

champie

How do I change to personal issues

mikemac

Welcome to boards anyway

There is a red triangle by your post.
Hit that and report your own post. Type in whatever you like and a moderator will sort it later

paddy147

sandra06 wrote: »

you got ur own issues there,whatever they may be ,i was just giving my opinion ,social fraud is illegal, and maybe this woman needs clousure on this guy .

I dont know where you got that from,BUT......Ive no personal issues at all.Im in a very good relationship with an amazing and beautifull woman.:D

I also havent,wont and wouldnt do revenge,as thats not me.




Eh,you do watch the likes of RTE News and read the newspapers dont you???

Because I do read the papers and watch the news and do see alot of this stuff on the news and in the papers.

Personal bitterness,stalking and revenge only do harm and not any good,for all involved.

stoneill

If you don't want to report yourself - send me the details and I'll report him.
My hard earned tax money he's robbing.

champie

CoolGirl101 wrote: »

If you were still with him, you probably wouldn't report him, so why do it now just because of your own personal resentment?
That's kind of changing your morals to suit yourself.

When I was married to him we had a house and jobs and didn't rely on taxpayers to support us. He got the house then had it repossessed. I work 3 jobs to support myself

SC024

paddy147 wrote: »

Actually its not sweet at all,as it leads to more and more of it and sometimes stalking that can land a person in alot of trouble with the law and with any family members who become caught up in it or affected by it..

& God only knows where it ends

champie

feelingstressed wrote: »

Welcome to boards anyway

There is a red triangle by your post.
Hit that and report your own post. Type in whatever you like and a moderator will sort it later

Thanks getting the hang of it now!!

SC024

sandra06 wrote: »

you got ur own issues there,whatever they may be ,i was just giving my opinion ,social fraud is illegal, and maybe this woman needs clousure on this guy .

before I start I don't agree with what he's doing

Is reporting him going to give the OP any kind of closure? I don't think so...

just my wee humble opinion

Galway K9

report it...simple as its you the tax payer paying for it,....

paddy147

This is a one sided story from 1 side and we dont know the "facts" or the "true facts" from both sides.

The chap maybe perfecty legit for all we know and it could be just a case of the bitter "ex-wife"??





Personally speaking and looking at all that you have posted so far,I think that you should not be posting all the personal details here,as your posts and replies make it seem like its all a personal/revenge issue against your ex-husband.

Go and talk to a community doctor or counciler if you have issues to get over,then move on with your life.

borderlinemeath

I personally would report him on the basis that he is committing fraud.

However, by the powers of deduction would he know it was you who reported him? I don't know the ins and outs of your break up but would he be capable of doing you any harm - physically or mentally if he knew it was you who reported him? This is where I would hesitate and think about the consequences of your actions if there's any chance that it could turn sour for you.

I know the social welfare reporting is anonymous but if he knows you have a grudge against him and you know he is fraudulently claiming it could come back to haunt you and your son.

paddy147

I love how the "male" is allways painted out to be the bad one.

Even when no one knows the actual facts.

Typical stereotyping.:rolleyes:

Fittle

I hate the way the minute a thread like this is posted, there are those who go on about the 'reasons' the poster wants to report the person. There was a similar thread on PI a couple of weeks ago, and the poster got slated and called jealous and not a very good friend for wanting to report someone etc:rolleyes:

In any welfare fraud, the reasons the person is reporting someone are NOT relevant.

Welfare fraud is a crime and if you know 100% that it is being committed, you should report it, end of.

Wisco

I say report him- you're probably not the only one who knows about the fraud, so he wo'nt know it was you. There's a handy online anonymous form on the welfare website.
I think you should report it because fraud is a crime, not because you have some grudge. Stealing my money makes me angry, and that's what he, and every other SW fraudster are doing.

borderlinemeath

paddy147 wrote: »

I love how the "male" is allways painted out to be the bad one.

Even when no one knows the actual facts.

Typical stereotyping.:rolleyes:

It would be the same situation if the roles were reversed. Plenty of men out there take a beating from their partners or wives. And women are plenty capable of mental anguish, more likely if the woman is primary caregiver of children

If as the OP has stated, he has committed social welfare fraud, has neglected his child, got the family home repossessed and left to start a new life - who knows what else he may do or be capable of?

I don't know of many men who don't want to see their child, whatever the circumstances of the breakdown. The ones that don't bother are usually the "typical stereotype":rolleyes:

champie

paddy147 wrote: »

I love how the "male" is allways painted out to be the bad one.

Even when no one knows the actual facts.

Typical stereotyping.:rolleyes:

Yes you are correct in that you don't know the facts so maybe instead of acting like a pompous arrogant git and assuming that I am the worst person that ever exsisted you might consider offering some constructive advice or better again say nothing :rolleyes:

you have no idea the lenghts I have gone to, to try and keep things civil for the sake of my child but some people just aren't worth persisting with

paddy147

champie wrote: »

Yes you are correct in that you don't know the facts so maybe instead of acting like a pompous arrogant git and assuming that I am the worst person that ever exsisted you might consider offering some constructive advice or better again say nothing :rolleyes:

you have no idea the lenghts I have gone to, to try and keep things civil for the sake of my child but some people just aren't worth persisting with

Im not assuming anything,Im going by all your posts and what they contain and how you are going on and on and on about your ex-husband (you also started 2 seperate threads about it too).

You were given the advice by others (not just me),not to be going on with all the personal issues here,yet you just do it more and more.

And you are still doing it now.

This is sub forum about social welfare and not a marriage breakdown/divorce and your obvious bitterness towards your ex-husband.

Give it a rest now and also go and speak to a community worker,doctor or relationship counclier and move on with your new life now..

Best regards.

galwegians

champie wrote: »

When I was married to him we had a house and jobs and didn't rely on taxpayers to support us. He got the house then had it repossessed. I work 3 jobs to support myself

hell hath no fury like a woman scorned,

leave the man alone,

get on with your own life.

live in your own space/and he will do the same

cee_jay

Its Social welfare fraud, the only advise you can get on this forum within the forum charter is to report it.
thread locked.