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  • 11-04-2011 8:10pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭


    Get out the popcorn for this one folks!!!


    A fella I know called me there asking me a car advise. He was in Dublin a few weeks ago and called into a dealership which will remain nameless looking for a car suitable for a Taxi.

    He told the salesman he wanted a diesel so he showed him a 06 Audi A6 which looked perfect. Low mileage and seemed clean. He took it for a testdrive and was satisfied and paid cash there and then and took the car home.

    He brimmed the tank with diesel and a few miles on the car conked going down the motorway and stalled. The AA came on the scene and they drained the tank of fuel and charged him 250 euro for doing so. The AA man told he filled up with the wrong fuel much to the mans amazment because he told him it was a diesel. The mechanic pointed out the 2.0T badge on the car which indicated the petrol variant of the car plus he pointed out the engine difference.

    He got the car home anyway and phoned the garage who basically told him to get lost. They wont speak to him now and are ignoring his calls. He is seeking legal advise on the matter shortly...

    I think my mate is totally wrong and has no leg to stand on. What do the rest of you think??. The mate said he asked for a diesel and your man showed him this...

    Tell me what you think.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    How the hell did he not cop it was petrol?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Your mates fault I would imagine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Paddy001


    If he specified diesel and didnt get it that is a breach of contract and he is entitled to a full refund


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Sorry but I loled.

    That dealer is some scumbag, but didn't your friend did not heard it was not diesel rumble from under the bonnet?

    Some scumbag dealer anyway, I think your buddy should have good chances in court as it was misleading sale and lie about the goods.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    EPM wrote: »
    How the hell did he not cop it was petrol?

    He said when you start it that it sounds like a Diesel... Also when he seen 2.0T on the back he automatically thought 2.0 turbo diesel.


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Paddy001 wrote: »
    If he specified diesel and didnt get it that is a breach of contract and he is entitled to a full refund

    ... and of course this diesel request he'll have in writing :rolleyes:

    Corkie, the lad you know must be an awful bell end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Paddy001 wrote: »
    If he specified diesel and didnt get it that is a breach of contract and he is entitled to a full refund
    Sorry but I loled.

    That dealer is some scumbag, but didn't your friend did not heard it was not diesel rumble from under the bonnet?

    Some scumbag dealer anyway, I think your buddy should have good chances in court as it was misleading sale and lie about the goods.

    Thats intresting I presumed he would not have a foot to stand on..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    I thought a diesel nozzle wouldn't fit in a petrol car?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    RoverJames wrote: »

    Corkie, the lad you know must be an awful bell end.

    In fairness he is far from it. He is a lot older than me and would be fairly handy with cars. I was totally shocked when he told me..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    if he looked at the engine he would know straight away by the sparkplugs or coilpacks over them it wasnt diesel.People like that should have a mechanic with them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Paddy001


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Thats intresting I presumed he would not have a foot to stand on..

    Theres two terms, not certain on them one is a breach of warranty and I think the other is a breach of condition. One would be for example something minor he asked for and didnt get, he would be entitled to compensation but not a refund. For the other one, such as demanding diesel and getting petrol, its a much bigger issue and would be entitled to return it for a full refund


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    In fairness he is far from it. He is a lot older than me and would be fairly handy with cars. I was totally shocked when he told me..

    Not half as handy as you would think mind you!:pac::pac::pac:


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kildarelad wrote: »
    if he looked at the engine he would know straight away by the sparkplugs or coilpacks over them it wasnt diesel.People like that should have a mechanic with them

    People don't remove the engine cover generally. Anyway, a glance at the rev counter should be enough.

    As mentioned by someone above the diesel nossle shouldn't fit in a petrol car.


    I'm also surprised the AA undertook that job on the roadside. Can they facilitate 60/70l of diesel that they just drained from a tank?
    I would suspect he didn't specify diesel at all to be honest. You'd want to be retarded as a dealer to try and present a petrol car to someone looking for a diesel. Most folks would spot it straight away and the dealer would look an awful numpty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    Not half as handy as you would think mind you!:pac::pac::pac:


    LOL I am beginning to wonder that now..:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭firefly08


    If he specified diesel and didnt get it that is a breach of contract and he is entitled to a full refund

    What does it say on the receipt? If the car matches what it says on the receipt then I would bet that is what the contract is for, and he therefore has no leg to stand on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    firefly08 wrote: »
    What does it say on the receipt? If the car matches what it says on the receipt then I would bet that is what the contract is for, and he therefore has no leg to stand on.

    I dont know if he got a receipt..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭firefly08


    I dont know if he got a receipt..

    Sounds like the dealer took him for a ride so. If there is no receipt then I suppose it's his word against the dealer's, so he might have a case after all. If I was him I'd get legal advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    I disagree, he asked the sales rep what he wanted and he wasn't given what he asked for. I used to work in Sales for Dell and a lot of customers would just tell what the wanted and I sold them the required PC.

    They may have not know what they were buying in terms of tech but that doesn't IT tech to help them out.
    In fairness buying a computer is a good bit different than buying a car you cant exactly open the box to see whats inside unlike a car where you just open the bonnet.
    People don't remove the engine cover generally. Anyway, a glance at the rev counter should be enough.

    As mentioned by someone above the diesel nossle shouldn't fit in a petrol car.


    I'm also surprised the AA undertook that job on the roadside. Can they facilitate 60/70l of diesel that they just drained from a tank?
    I would suspect he didn't specify diesel at all to be honest. You'd want to be retarded as a dealer to try and present a petrol car to someone looking for a diesel. Most folks would spot it straight away and the dealer would look an awful numpty.
    You dont need to remove the engine cover to check this in fairness.I would suspect he didnt specify a dioesel either and if hes retarded enough to buy a petrol car thinking its diesel he deserved to get stung


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    I dont know if he got a receipt..

    if he didn't get a receipt after spending €10-15k on a motor then he needs his head examined!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Absurdum wrote: »
    if he didn't get a receipt after spending €10-15k on a motor then he needs his head examined!

    I know but he traded in a car that he couldnt get rid of anywhere. I wouldnt believe the story only I heard it from the horses mouth..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,118 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    RoverJames wrote: »
    I'm also surprised the AA undertook that job on the roadside. Can they facilitate 60/70l of diesel that they just drained from a tank?

    It's a special service that they've been offering in recent times. It's called "AA fuel assist". It's not cheap :D


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kildarelad wrote: »
    if he looked at the engine he would know straight away by the sparkplugs or coilpacks over them it wasnt diesel.People like that should have a mechanic with them
    kildarelad wrote: »

    You dont need to remove the engine cover to check this in fairness.

    I don't agree with that........

    39762622.jpg

    I can't see any sparkplugs or coilpacks there :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    I can't see any sparkplugs or coilpacks there smile.gif
    If yoy were looking in under the cover at one of them you wouldnt need to take it off to see the leads going to the plugs.
    Also you wont see pipes going to the diesel filter at the side of the engine as its petrol
    Also when you start it unless your deaf or dumb it wont be half as noisy as a diesel.
    And finally if your still stupid enough to think its a diesel check the tax disc.
    Some people make it so easy for salesmen to trick them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    kildarelad wrote: »
    In fairness buying a computer is a good bit different than buying a car you cant exactly open the box to see whats inside unlike a car where you just open the bonnet.
    Erm, yes you can just open a PC to see what's inside ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    Erm, yes you can just open a PC to see what's inside
    I cant see a potential seller letting you open it up to have a look in fairness smartarse !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    i can't imagine ever going into a dealership and asking "what have you got" - all of this can be found out from the comfort of your sofa, with the benefit of searching by fuel type.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    RoverJames wrote: »
    I don't agree with that........

    39762622.jpg

    I can't see any sparkplugs or coilpacks there :)

    I can see a big TFSI sign though:p


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kildarelad wrote: »
    If yoy were looking in under the cover at one of them you wouldnt need to take it off to see the leads going to the plugs.
    Also you wont see pipes going to the diesel filter at the side of the engine as its petrol
    Also when you start it unless your deaf or dumb it wont be half as noisy as a diesel.
    And finally if your still stupid enough to think its a diesel check the tax disc.
    Some people make it so easy for salesmen to trick them


    lol, your initial point was you'd spot coilpacks or plugs without removing the engine cover. You can't :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    lol, your initial point was you'd spot coilpacks or plugs without removing the engine cover. You can't tongue.gif
    You can if you are actually looking at the car and bend your head to look under the cover.
    You wont see it from behind your big keyboard looking at that photo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Well I built my PC, so didn't need to open it up :)
    But there are many easily available methods of finding out what exact hardware you're getting in a computer, by software or other means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    Well I built my PC, so didn't need to open it up smile.gif
    But there are many easily available methods of finding out what exact hardware you're getting in a computer, by software or other means.
    Right so what exactly was your point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Id say it went something like this - Guy goes in, says he is looking for a car for taxi, large and diesel. Salesguy says all he has is this A6 outside, its a 2.0T, man goes out, likes it, believes all the advertising about how the modern diesels are so quiet forgets to mention diesel again and drives away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    Id say it went something like this - Guy goes in, says he is looking for a car for taxi, large and diesel. Salesguy says all he has is this A6 outside, its a 2.0T, man goes out, likes it, believes all the advertising about how the modern diesels are so quiet forgets to mention diesel again and drives away]
    Finally somebody who is speaking some sense.So its hardly the salesmans fault is it ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Crackle


    It's already been mentioned but I'll say it again. How did he manage to put diesel in when, theoretically, the nozzle should have been too big?


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kildarelad wrote: »
    You can if you are actually looking at the car and bend your head to look under the cover.
    You wont see it from behind your big keyboard looking at that photo

    here's a diesel A6 engine
    645099-m4291643.jpg

    you'd want a fierce small head to do the head bending thing

    39762622.jpg

    folks with small heads generally have f all between the ears !!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    RoverJames wrote: »
    here's a diesel A6 engine

    And also the fact that a diesel has 2.0TDi on the boot.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    here's a diesel A6 engine
    Well observed did the 2.0 TDI bit give it away for you .
    It's already been mentioned but I'll say it again. How did he manage to put diesel in when, theoretically, the nozzle should have been too big?
    Its not too big


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kildarelad wrote: »
    Finally somebody who is speaking some sense.So its hardly the salesmans fault is it ??

    That was mentioned on page 1 by a few people :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    folks with small heads generally have f all between the ears !!
    They would have enough there to know a petrol from a diesel :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭kildarelad


    That was mentioned on page 1 by a few people smile.gif]
    So my point is proven then your man was a bit of a retard to think he wa buying a diesel and the salesman wasnt at fault and therefore he doesnt deserve a refund


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kildarelad wrote: »
    So my point is proven then your man was a bit of a retard to think he wa buying a diesel and the salesman wasnt at fault and therefore he doesnt deserve a refund
    RoverJames wrote: »
    ... and of course this diesel request he'll have in writing :rolleyes:

    Corkie, the lad you know must be an awful bell end.
    RoverJames wrote: »
    I would suspect he didn't specify diesel at all to be honest.
    :pac:


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