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Robbie was better than Rooney...

  • 10-04-2011 12:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭


    ... so says Kevin Kilbane in today's Mail on Sunday.


    What do ye think of this?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    Keane??? Haha! Sure. I think Kevin should keep things like this to himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    Robbie was good...but not better then Rooney.

    Close thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    at what? blowing kisses at cameras?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Johnny Utah


    Kilbane played with both players when they were just breaking into first team football; Robbie when he strted playing for Ireland and Rooney when he broke into the Everton first team. KK reckons that Robbie, as a young player, was better than Rooney!

    Note: KK is only comparing these two players at a time when they were young and breaking into professional football, so bear in mind that Robbie was one of the hottest prospects in world football when he was young and was bought by Inter. KK is not comparing the entire career and achievemnst/medals of Robbie Kena to Ronney's entire career.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    theteal wrote: »
    at what? blowing kisses at cameras?

    I'm sure he meant at celebrating.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    If that's the case, then what the hell happened to Robbie Keane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,891 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    lol, Robbie was a great player but could never change or influence a game like Rooney could/can. At his best he was just one level below Rooney.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Kilbane played with both players when they were just breaking into first team football; Robbie when he strted playing for Ireland and Rooney when he broke into the Everton first team. KK reckons that Robbie, as a young player, was better than Rooney!

    Note: KK is only comparing these two players at a time when they were young and breaking into professional football, so bear in mind that Robbie was one of the hottest prospects in world football when he was young and was bought by Inter. KK is not comparing the entire career and achievemnst/medals of Robbie Kena to Ronney's entire career.

    I don't think that sensible approach will be adopted by too many in this thread.

    Robbie had the world at his feet at 18/18/19. The Inter transfer is where he screwed up. I think Keane has more ability on the ball than Rooney. Just Rooney has different attributes that make him better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Bodhisopha wrote: »
    If that's the case, then what the hell happened to Robbie Keane?

    Bad transfers, not getting game time etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,278 ✭✭✭x43r0


    I thought this thread was about Robbie Fowler and was coming in to agree but fvck that now


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Both players are HUGELY over-rated, but in no way and at no time was Keane ever anywhere near as good as Rooney.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,730 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    x43r0 wrote: »
    I thought this thread was about Robbie Fowler and was coming in to agree but fvck that now
    I thought the same.

    Not a hope Keane better then Rooney who though overrated is a better player


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    as a united fan i kinda agree,at 18 or 19 keane scored more goals in the prem with a weaker team than rooney did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    ... so says Kevin Kilbane in today's Mail on Sunday.


    What do ye think of this?


    Keane or Fowler ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Johnny Utah


    Keane or Fowler ?

    Robbie Keane. :)


    For the second time, please note that Kilbane was comparing Robbie Keane at age 17-20 to Wayne Rooney at age 17-20. Kilbane played with both players when they were young, so he's actually in a good position to compare the two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Kilbane + Mail On Sunday = :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I thought it was going to be about Robbie Fowler, and I was like, hmm, that's a tough one.

    Robbie Keane? Are ya mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Keane or Fowler ?

    My first thought was that it was Fowler.

    Keane - No

    Fowler - Yes (Rooney may end up better)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    ... so says Kevin Kilbane in today's Mail on Sunday.


    What do ye think of this?

    Misinforming post is misinforming..
    Kilbane played with both players when they were just breaking into first team football; Robbie when he strted playing for Ireland and Rooney when he broke into the Everton first team. KK reckons that Robbie, as a young player, was better than Rooney!

    Note: KK is only comparing these two players at a time when they were young and breaking into professional football, so bear in mind that Robbie was one of the hottest prospects in world football when he was young and was bought by Inter. KK is not comparing the entire career and achievemnst/medals of Robbie Kena to Ronney's entire career.

    Why not just put this in the OP? :confused: People will jump the gun and go off topic as to what the article is even about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    Firstly Rooney has developed in the better player..... I think thats a given fact (by a country mile IMO)


    But just to pour some petrol on the fire it could be argued that at least Robbie Keane performed /turn up at the biggest Stage (test ) of them all .. The World Cup something Rooney has failed to do (yet :D)












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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭partyndbs


    their both strikers but nothing alike. at 18 keane was like a mini (real) ronaldo. rooney would never score a goal like keane did against aston villa on his coventry debut, whereas keane would never score a goal like rooney did against arsenal on his prem league debut


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Honestly, there is an arguement to be made for Keane on this one, if his career had taken a different path, if the manager who signed him for Inter for example hadnt left the club so soon after he came, he might have developed into a real world class player there

    As a youngster he did have some serious potential, I dont think he ever fully realised it, but Rooney went to the right club to develop himself, Keane didnt imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭Sergio


    Robbies way better at rolling around in the grass than wayne rooney lol!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Colinboy wrote: »
    Robbies way better at rolling around in the grass than wayne rooney lol!!!

    LAUGH OUT LOUD!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Nah, I dont think it's too far wrong to say that Rooney himself was actually a better player at 18 than he is now. I've looked over some of his performances at Euro 2004 and in his first season at United. Just to see him running at people like that was a joy.

    Robbie was brilliant back then too, but not as much so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    Of course Rooney is by far the better player, interesting though that internationally Keane (45 in 106) has a much better strike rate than Wayne (26 in 70).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    theteal wrote: »
    at what? blowing kisses at cameras?

    Winning trophies perhaps.

    Not that I'm a Manchester Utd fan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    kryogen wrote: »
    Honestly, there is an arguement to be made for Keane on this one, if his career had taken a different path, if the manager who signed him for Inter for example hadnt left the club so soon after he came, he might have developed into a real world class player there

    As a youngster he did have some serious potential, I dont think he ever fully realised it, but Rooney went to the right club to develop himself, Keane didnt imo

    Thats a rather big if isnt it?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Thats a rather big if isnt it?

    isnt that the idea though Kilbane is saying Robbie was better not is. We arent talking about how they developed here just that at one point it could be argued Robbie was a bigger talent than Rooney, however Rooney yes has progressed to a higher level, on that id say even Kilbane would agree.

    I'd say at a young age Robbie could have been considerd better but Rooney had more potential, not sure if that would be right but I wouldnt be shocked if someone had stats to back something like that up


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Thats a rather big if isnt it?

    thats kinda the point


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Kilbane played with both players when they were just breaking into first team football; Robbie when he strted playing for Ireland and Rooney when he broke into the Everton first team. KK reckons that Robbie, as a young player, was better than Rooney!

    Note: KK is only comparing these two players at a time when they were young and breaking into professional football, so bear in mind that Robbie was one of the hottest prospects in world football when he was young and was bought by Inter. KK is not comparing the entire career and achievemnst/medals of Robbie Kena to Ronney's entire career.

    And yet he still couldn't be more wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    Firstly Rooney has developed in the better player..... I think thats a given fact (by a country mile IMO)


    But just to pour some petrol on the fire it could be argued that at least Robbie Keane performed /turn up at the biggest Stage (test ) of them all .. The World Cup something Rooney has failed to do (yet :D)

    In fairness, Euro '04: an 18 year old rooney was the best player in the competition!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    ... so says Kevin Kilbane in today's Mail on Sunday.


    What do ye think of this?

    If true, then a hell of a lot of credit must go to Rooney what he's achieved in his career despite being initially inferior.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭partyndbs


    not really keane was class at that age. he was like a ronaldo lite


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    If true, then a hell of a lot of credit must go to Rooney what he's achieved in his career despite being initially inferior.

    hell of a lot of credit must go to Rooney, Fergie and the United coaching staff

    And it does


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭b.o.m.d.a.s.


    it's good to see rooney getting his confidence back.

    i couldn't choose between rooney and robbie.

    well if i i was in the position i would choose Robbie,

    but i think rooney's best spell is about to happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Rob113


    Did fergie not say at one point that he wouldn't waste £500k on a young robbie keane?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭b.o.m.d.a.s.


    Rob113 wrote: »
    Did fergie not say at one point that he wouldn't waste £500k on a young robbie keane?


    fergie's relationship to money is so relative,


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