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Anyone use Hornady TAP amo.

  • 08-04-2011 9:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭


    Guys any use Hornady TAP amo before. Seen it in a gun deelers today 155gr in 308, priced at €45 for 20. It looks like balistic tip in a silver case. Is it a hunting round or target round? The main guy was at lunch and the guy covering did not seem to know much about the amo. Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭stick shooter


    Mauser 308 wrote: »
    Guys any use Hornady TAP amo before. Seen it in a gun deelers today 155gr in 308, priced at €45 for 20. It looks like balistic tip in a silver case. Is it a hunting round or target round? The main guy was at lunch and the guy covering did not seem to know much about the amo. Cheers

    They are not really a hunting ammo. TAP stands for tactical application police .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭stick shooter


    You should be looking for the superperformance ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭Mauser 308


    You should be looking for the superperformance ;)
    Yep bought some supers on Thursday, can wait to try. It was the price that threw me off the Tap were €5 dearer per 20 which seems strange. Super performance it is so...;):) Cheers Stick shooter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    They are not really a hunting ammo. TAP stands for tactical application police .

    I may tell the deer I shot with it that I'm sorry!

    Fantastic round! Almost the same as Superformance, just more bullet drop

    ~1" lower at 300 from 200 yard zero

    Grouped very well in my Remmy too. Shot many Bunnies at distance when I ran out of .223 during the summer :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Hondata92


    I may tell the deer I shot with it that I'm sorry!

    Fantastic round! Almost the same as Superformance, just more bullet drop

    ~1" lower at 300 from 200 yard zero

    Grouped very well in my Remmy too. Shot many Bunnies at distance when I ran out of .223 during the summer :D

    The TAP ammo expands/deforms differently when compared to hunting or target ammo when it impacts its target, the TAP ammo is designed to splinter and shed its jacket upon impact and then mushroom.

    As for ~1" low at 300 from a 200yard zero please tell me that 1" = 1 foot and not inches otherwise please put away your selling measuring tape and pick up your buying tape.

    The lightest .308 TAP round is a 110gr and zeroed at 200yards it has a drop of approx 6.9" (inches) at 300yards.

    I could be wrong, maybe these magic .223 and .308 rounds are designed to prove ballistic calculators wrong:rolleyes:

    As for shooting rabbits with a centrefire (since you shoot hundreds each year) doesnt that work out very costly:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    Mauser 308 wrote: »
    Guys any use Hornady TAP amo before. Seen it in a gun deelers today 155gr in 308, priced at €45 for 20. It looks like balistic tip in a silver case. Is it a hunting round or target round? The main guy was at lunch and the guy covering did not seem to know much about the amo. Cheers

    ya i was using 155gr tap at the start of the season just gone and i dropped a couple of deer with them.
    they work just fine as a hunting round

    i also had a chance to crono them and they were very consistent and grouped very well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 paul1972


    i thought the tap ammo used the A-MAX head and was designed not to overpenetrate and expend all its energy inside the target and above all be very very accurate which to my mind makes for a good hunting round
    correct me if i am wrong though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    I may tell the deer I shot with it that I'm sorry!

    Fantastic round! Almost the same as Superformance, just more bullet drop

    ~1" lower at 300 from 200 yard zero

    Grouped very well in my Remmy too. Shot many Bunnies at distance when I ran out of .223 during the summer :D
    Hondata92 wrote: »
    The TAP ammo expands/deforms differently when compared to hunting or target ammo when it impacts its target, the TAP ammo is designed to splinter and shed its jacket upon impact and then mushroom.

    As for ~1" low at 300 from a 200yard zero please tell me that 1" = 1 foot and not inches otherwise please put away your selling measuring tape and pick up your buying tape.

    The lightest .308 TAP round is a 110gr and zeroed at 200yards it has a drop of approx 6.9" (inches) at 300yards.

    I could be wrong, maybe these magic .223 and .308 rounds are designed to prove ballistic calculators wrong:rolleyes:

    As for shooting rabbits with a centrefire (since you shoot hundreds each year) doesnt that work out very costly:confused:

    What Tack is trying to say is that the 155gr Tap has an extra inch of drop than the 150gr SST Superformance @ 300 yards.

    155gr TAP:

    MUZZLE 100 200 300 400 500
    2785/2669 2577/2285 2379/1947 2189/1649 2008/1387 1836/1160

    Trajectory (inches)
    MUZZLE 100 200 300 400 500
    -1.50 1.90 0.00 -8.00 -23.30 -47.30

    150gr SST Superformance:

    MUZZLE 100 200 300 400 500
    3000/2997 2772/2558 2555/2173 2348/1836 2151/1540 1963/1282

    Trajectory (inches)
    MUZZLE 100 200 300 400 500
    -1.50 1.50 0.00 -6.90 -20.00 -40.70

    Ye shooting bunnies with a centrefire can be pricey but when you can shoot a bunny at 200-300 yards instead of 100-150 yards with a .22lr it can get very interesting and you push yourself more to go further and further.

    As Tack says "If you can shoot a bunny in the head @ 100, 200, 300 yards you can do the same with a fox or a deer."
    Bunnies are great for practice as their heads are small and at longer ranges make you watch your breathing, heart rate and follow through.

    As for the TAP rounds I can't comment for .308 but I personally saw Poulo shooting a fox @ 216 yards (I think) with 75gr TAP in .223 and it dropped on the spot, there wasn't even a twitch out of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭landkeeper


    i askeed this question on the 223 tap stuff b4 i bought a case of 75 grain stuff as i was expecting it to be a ballistic tip bullet when in fact it was hollow point
    here is the reply from hornady
    'The Hornady .22 cal. 75 gr. BTHP bullet loaded in the .223 Rem. cartridge is designed to feed out of AR type magazines. If the .22 cal. 75 gr. V-MAX bullet would be loaded in the .223 Rem. case, it would be too long to fit in an AR type magazine. Both the 75 gr. BTHP and 75 gr. A-MAX bullets are match target bullets and can be used for varmint hunting as well'
    some of the other calibre Tap ammo IS loaded with a vmax type bullet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    landkeeper wrote: »
    i askeed this question on the 223 tap stuff b4 i bought a case of 75 grain stuff as i was expecting it to be a ballistic tip bullet when in fact it was hollow point
    here is the reply from hornady
    'The Hornady .22 cal. 75 gr. BTHP bullet loaded in the .223 Rem. cartridge is designed to feed out of AR type magazines. If the .22 cal. 75 gr. V-MAX bullet would be loaded in the .223 Rem. case, it would be too long to fit in an AR type magazine. Both the 75 gr. BTHP and 75 gr. A-MAX bullets are match target bullets and can be used for varmint hunting as well'
    some of the other calibre Tap ammo IS loaded with a vmax type bullet

    I have never seen a hornady 75gr V-max or A-max. There aren't on the website either. Maybe it is only possible to get a V-max or A-max if you were to reload it yourself. The 75gr BTHP are well able to drop a fox anyway.

    I picked up a box of 60gr TAP and they have a V-max head on them. I haven't tested it yet but I say it would do fair damage to a fox.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Hondata92 wrote: »
    The TAP ammo expands/deforms differently when compared to hunting or target ammo when it impacts its target, the TAP ammo is designed to splinter and shed its jacket upon impact and then mushroom.

    As for ~1" low at 300 from a 200yard zero please tell me that 1" = 1 foot and not inches otherwise please put away your selling measuring tape and pick up your buying tape.

    The lightest .308 TAP round is a 110gr and zeroed at 200yards it has a drop of approx 6.9" (inches) at 300yards.

    I could be wrong, maybe these magic .223 and .308 rounds are designed to prove ballistic calculators wrong:rolleyes:

    As for shooting rabbits with a centrefire (since you shoot hundreds each year) doesnt that work out very costly:confused:

    As Dev said (and I said in not so many words), they are a little at 300 yards than the superformance.

    Yes Varminting with a centrefire is expensive, but so is many things. what I spend on Diesel a month is my biggest outlay, not what I spend on ammo.

    I am currently using TAP 75 grain BTHP in .223 and used Hornady TAP 155grain for a couple of years in the .308 (now using Hornady Superformance)

    I am not selling anything............
    I could never get 110 grain TAP in this country so I tried 125grain HPS in a similar configuration, which was very flat shooting, but did not group as well as TAP did.

    The only Round that beat TAP in my .308 for grouping was Remington Match and SuperFormance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭zeissman


    Hornady use the AMAX bullet in the 155 grain TAP ammo.
    This is a target bullet but a lot of guys use it for hunting also.
    I know a couple of guys in N Ireland who load Amax bullets for foxes and deer with good results.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭BELOWaverageIQ


    zeissman wrote: »
    Hornady use the AMAX bullet in the 155 grain TAP ammo.
    This is a target bullet but a lot of guys use it for hunting also.
    I know a couple of guys in N Ireland who load Amax bullets for foxes and deer with good results.


    Are you 100% sure about the Amax round?
    Reason I ask is because I have some but didn't know it could be used as a hunting round


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭Mauser 308


    I may tell the deer I shot with it that I'm sorry!

    Fantastic round! Almost the same as Superformance, just more bullet drop

    ~1" lower at 300 from 200 yard zero

    Grouped very well in my Remmy too. Shot many Bunnies at distance when I ran out of .223 during the summer :D
    Cheers Tack, I can get the super performance for €40 a box and the Tap are €45 so makes sence to stay with the supers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭endasmail


    hornady TAP
    great bullets
    dont no the specs of them ,but if ya hit something with em ,they not getting up
    i use them in 63 gr in my .223


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    endasmail wrote: »
    hornady TAP
    great bullets
    dont no the specs of them ,but if ya hit something with em ,they not getting up
    i use them in 63 gr in my .223

    I'm going to try some of the lighter grain ones (as soon as I can afford to buy a 100 or so)

    Currently using the 75 grain but the hold over is tricky if you are used to shooting 55grain Moly's

    I hope the 63 grainers will be a happy medium until I get some SuperFormance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    I have a box of the 60gr TAP in .223 and still have to test them. They look a great round!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭zeissman


    Are you 100% sure about the Amax round?
    Reason I ask is because I have some but didn't know it could be used as a hunting round

    Yeah the guys were using 52 grain amax in a 22-250 on foxes and 140 grain in 6.5x55 on deer.
    I know another guy using 155 amax in his 308 for deer also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭BELOWaverageIQ


    zeissman wrote: »
    Yeah the guys were using 52 grain amax in a 22-250 on foxes and 140 grain in 6.5x55 on deer.
    I know another guy using 155 amax in his 308 for deer also.

    Excellent, I have a load of 155 Amax.


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