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LC Oral - Gaeilge

  • 08-04-2011 5:48pm
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Bheinn fíor-bhuíoch dá bhféadfadh ceann de na múinteoirí Gaeilge anseo ceist a fhreagairt dom maidir leis an 20 sraith pictiúr a scrudófar sa bhéaltriail nua ardteiste. Céard go díreach a bheas á dhéanamh leo san agallamh, agus an mó marcanna a bheas ag dul dóibh? Seans go mbeidh mé ag tabhairt cabhrach do chol ceathrar le linn an tsamhraidh, agus tá an siollabas athruithe ó rinne mé féin é. Go raibh maith agaibh.

    I’d be very grateful if one of the Irish teachers here could answer a question for me regarding the 20 picture sequences that will be examined in the new LC oral. What exactly will have to be done with them, and how many marks are they worth? I might be helping a cousin with it during the summer, and the syllabus has changed since I did it. Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    The student will be asked to describe what is happening in the pictures - past or present tense. If a student struggles with a picture the examiner can mention something that they have already said as a prompt. (Within reason obviously.) Then the student will have to ask 3 questions about the pictures. For example, something as simple as, 'Cé mhéad duine atá i bpictiúr a trí?' is an acceptable question. A higher level candidate should prepare something more difficult. The whole thing should last about 4 minutes. This is what I was told at a recent inservice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭gaeilgegrinds1


    Was at an inservice recently on this and there was war about it. I doubt they won't have to backtrack, 20 is far too many. Also they have to read the poems.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭dambarude


    Obviously in teaching terms it will be difficult preparing students for 20 sequences (it'll be hard for the students to learn too).

    But I can't understand why they've made the sequences available beforehand. If they were unseen there wouldn't be as much work in preparing them (there wouldn't be much point), and it wouldn't be so false and contrived.

    I thought that making an bhéaltriail worth 40% would be good for spoken Irish, but it seems that all they've done is added more rote learning to the whole thing.

    Does the fact that the béaltriail is worth more mean that it will now last longer? And will it mean that less 'learnt off', predictable material is expected (that students will be able to speak on more topic areas)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    It was the same in German, wasn't it? Started off with about 20? I think it's less now. The reason given for having 20 was that it will stop students just learning them off by heart when really it just means that they will learn all of them off by heart and have less time for other aspects of the language.


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