P Harrington - The end of an era

KKmanok

Although I have been hoping against hope that Padraig would regain his position as one of the worlds best and maybe take a 4th major I think today’s performance has jolted me into admitting that his best days are well and truly behind him.

Padraig’s strength was never his driving (especially on 07 and 08) The difference is now when he is in trouble off the tee he hasn’t the short game to minimise the damage that is precisely why we see so many doubles on his card.
Harington in his heyday was brilliant at eking out pars from difficult positions alas that quality has now deserted him and has done for well over a year now. Obviously it also means he is unable to make the best of birdie opportunities like before.

It’s not actually unusual; it has happened to some extent to Vijay and Ernie and many others.
Anyone who saw Paddy struggle through Amen corner today would have to admit that he was a shadow of his former self.
11th – Failure to get up and down from 30 yards
12th - Bogey on short par 3
13th - 3 putting from 18th feet (this absolutely so unlike Paddy of old)

BTW I still believe he will contend on occasion and will have a fair share of top 10’s over the next few years but there will be 30 or 40 better players than him on the circuit.

Nobody will be able to take away his stellar achievements and whatever happens over the next decade he will be remembered as one of the greats.

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1. There's already a Harrington thread.

2. My eyes :eek:

tang1

Didnt help the poor mans neck was in spasm during his round, hes a long way off being finished yet.

L.O.F.T

KKmanok wrote: »

Although I have been hoping against hope that Padraig would regain his position as one of the worlds best and maybe take a 4th major I think today’s performance has jolted me into admitting that his best days are well and truly behind him.

Padraig’s strength was never his driving (especially on 07 and 08) The difference is now when he is in trouble off the tee he hasn’t the short game to minimise the damage that is precisely why we see so many doubles on his card.
Harington in his heyday was brilliant at eking out pars from difficult positions alas that quality has now deserted him and has done for well over a year now. Obviously it also means he is unable to make the best of birdie opportunities like before.

It’s not actually unusual; it has happened to some extent to Vijay and Ernie and many others.
Anyone who saw Paddy struggle through Amen corner today would have to admit that he was a shadow of his former self.
11th – Failure to get up and down from 30 yards
12th - Bogey on short par 3
13th - 3 putting from 18th feet (this absolutely so unlike Paddy of old)

BTW I still believe he will contend on occasion and will have a fair share of top 10’s over the next few years but there will be 30 or 40 better players than him on the circuit.

Nobody will be able to take away his stellar achievements and whatever happens over the next decade he will be remembered as one of the greats.

What a load of s hite. The man is injured.

Bullettooth

L.O.F.T wrote: »

What a load of s hite. The man is injured.

Funny how they are always injured after shocking rounds

L.O.F.T

Bullettooth wrote: »

Funny how they are always injured after shocking rounds

Playing when injured usually leads to poor golf. Not a coincidence more like an obvious outcome.

PhilipMarlowe

"Bogey on short par 3" (12th)

LOL to that... ok, that's one way of saying it.
Another would be "Bogey on the 2nd hardest hole of ALL TIME at The Masters" only that wouldn't sound so ****, would it?

Heard E. Murray saying that the eclectic (worst) score at The Masters is 165.
That's 93 over par, an average of 5.1667 over par on each hole.
/useless unconnected random fact...

Aidric

Licksy wrote: »

"Bogey on short par 3" (12th)

LOL to that... ok, that's one way of saying it.
Another would be "Bogey on the 2nd hardest hole of ALL TIME at The Masters" only that wouldn't sound so ****, would it?

Heard E. Murray saying that the eclectic (worst) score at The Masters is 165.
That's 93 over par, an average of 5.1667 over par on each hole.
/useless unconnected random fact...

So you think Harrington is shít?

jackal

Ah the classic 1-bad-round obituary! lol

dvemail

Bullettooth wrote: »

Funny how they are always injured after shocking rounds

He was injured before the round.:D

dines08

If Eamon Dunphy wrote a golf column for The Star newspaper it'd look something like this

KKmanok wrote: »

Although I have been hoping against hope that Padraig would regain his position as one of the worlds best and maybe take a 4th major I think today’s performance has jolted me into admitting that his best days are well and truly behind him.

Padraig’s strength was never his driving (especially on 07 and 08) The difference is now when he is in trouble off the tee he hasn’t the short game to minimise the damage that is precisely why we see so many doubles on his card.
Harington in his heyday was brilliant at eking out pars from difficult positions alas that quality has now deserted him and has done for well over a year now. Obviously it also means he is unable to make the best of birdie opportunities like before.

It’s not actually unusual; it has happened to some extent to Vijay and Ernie and many others.
Anyone who saw Paddy struggle through Amen corner today would have to admit that he was a shadow of his former self.
11th – Failure to get up and down from 30 yards
12th - Bogey on short par 3
13th - 3 putting from 18th feet (this absolutely so unlike Paddy of old)

BTW I still believe he will contend on occasion and will have a fair share of top 10’s over the next few years but there will be 30 or 40 better players than him on the circuit.

Nobody will be able to take away his stellar achievements and whatever happens over the next decade he will be remembered as one of the greats.

gripcasey

I do think that he is still agreat player, but he will find it very difficult to regain his form of a few years ago . But I live in hope.

Adiaga 2

He hit a respectable amount of fairways and greens yesterday. Of course he could have been leaving himself with impossible putts - I miss shot tracker!! 35 putts on the day.

He'll probably need to better his lowest ever round at Augusta(68) today to make the cut. Improbable but not impossible.

Jesus Wept. If he wasn't Irish dont think there would be this thread. We seem to have a thing about us Irish where we look for any opportunity to put our own down. He was injured yday form comes and goes in golf and he is too good a player not to come back to the top.

Adiaga 2

True. He still beat the world no.1 by a shot. Where's the Martin Kaymer - The end of an Era for Europe's poster boy thread???

JerryHandbag

dines08 wrote: »

If Eamon Dunphy wrote a golf column for The Star newspaper it'd look something like this

And he would have called him "a nothing player"

f22

Adiaga 2 wrote: »

True. He still beat the world no.1 by a shot. Where's the Martin Kaymer - The end of an Era for Europe's poster boy thread???

Great achievement, he was also beaten by at least two strokes by every amateur in the field!

Adiaga 2

I'm not disputing the fact that he had a bad round. Just that it doesn't signal "the end of an era" same way it doesn't for Kaymer either.

Johnny_Fontane

harrington being injured is no excuse! He won a british open injured - didnt he nearly pull out on the thursday?

He seems to play better when injured!!! He's going through a very rough spell and he certainly is not finished.

KKmanok

Adiaga 2 wrote: »

I'm not disputing the fact that he had a bad round. Just that it doesn't signal "the end of an era" same way it doesn't for Kaymer either.

Ah come on... Alreday this year Kaymer distroyed a world class field (middle east in January), has climbed to world number 1 and is a current Major champion, Paddy has not won a significant event since Aug 2008, can ye not see folly in what your saying? Christ everone is entitled to 1 bad round, why I've come to this conclusion is because P.H has not seriously contested since the Bridgestone in 2009 btw his form from Aug - Dec 2009 was actually really good (Lots of T10 AND T5 finishes) but I feel I have seen a genuine decline over the past 15 months.

I'm not a Harrington basher in fact quite the opposite and I'd realy love if I'm proved wrong

GetInTheHole!

KKmanok wrote: »

Although I have been hoping against hope that Padraig would regain his position as one of the worlds best and maybe take a 4th major I think today’s performance has jolted me into admitting that his best days are well and truly behind him.

Padraig’s strength was never his driving (especially on 07 and 08) The difference is now when he is in trouble off the tee he hasn’t the short game to minimise the damage that is precisely why we see so many doubles on his card.
Harington in his heyday was brilliant at eking out pars from difficult positions alas that quality has now deserted him and has done for well over a year now. Obviously it also means he is unable to make the best of birdie opportunities like before.

It’s not actually unusual; it has happened to some extent to Vijay and Ernie and many others.
Anyone who saw Paddy struggle through Amen corner today would have to admit that he was a shadow of his former self.
11th – Failure to get up and down from 30 yards
12th - Bogey on short par 3
13th - 3 putting from 18th feet (this absolutely so unlike Paddy of old)

BTW I still believe he will contend on occasion and will have a fair share of top 10’s over the next few years but there will be 30 or 40 better players than him on the circuit.

Nobody will be able to take away his stellar achievements and whatever happens over the next decade he will be remembered as one of the greats.

That par 3 comment just gets funnier and funnier as the day goes on..

Is Gmac a shadow of his former self now as well with that triple?

KKmanok

GetInTheHole! wrote: »

That par 3 comment just gets funnier and funnier as the day goes on..

Is Gmac a shadow of his former self now as well with that triple?

look the point I'm making about PH is he is failing to do the business with the flat stick ....are you actually watching right now?? -
birdie chance on 12 missed bout 10 -12 feet
Eagle chance missed on 13 but at least he got the birdie
Putting for eagle on 15 and comes away with a Par
12-10 Feet for birdie on 16 and again does not make it

He is playing really well but the amount of shouts he is leaving out there is criminal and that has been his problem for the last 15 months.

As for the comment bout Gmac.. thats just silly he has shown massive improvement over the last 18 months my comments regarding Paddy are from watching him over the last 2 years not just yesterdays round and I emphasise again I'm a masive fan and I hope to God he can turn it around

Martin567

KKmanok wrote: »

look the point I'm making about PH is he is failing to do the business with the flat stick ....are you actually watching right now?? -
birdie chance on 12 missed bout 10 -12 feet
Eagle chance missed on 13 but at least he got the birdie
Putting for eagle on 15 and comes away with a Par
12-10 Feet for birdie on 16 and again does not make it

I don't agree with your main point but where are you getting the above from? I've been watching on Sky for the past 2.5 hours and I haven't seen any of those shots.

KKmanok

Martin567 wrote: »

I don't agree with your main point but where are you getting the above from? I've been watching on Sky for the past 2.5 hours and I haven't seen any of those shots.

Red button on Sky gives holes 11, 12, 13, 15 & 16 btw I know I trivialised the 12th hole in my origional post by that was out of pure frustration of him failing to get a par from the back of the green yeasterday (another missed putt from 10 - 12 feet) but surley you must agree his putting has gone way back in the last year and they worry I have is when that goes it's really difficult to get back as I said, ask Ernie and Vijay...really hope I'm wrong

Martin567

KKmanok wrote: »

Red button on Sky gives holes 11, 12, 13, 15 & 16 btw I know I trivialised the 12th hole in my origional post by that was out of pure frustration of him failing to get a par from the back of the green yeasterday (another missed putt from 10 - 12 feet) but surley you must agree his putting has gone way back in the last year and they worry I have is when that goes it's really difficult to get back as I said, ask Ernie and Vijay...really hope I'm wrong

I do agree about the putting. He was in the Top 10 in GIR at both Doral & Houston and still didn't contend to win. At his best, he didn't need to be one of the best in GIR to contend. He certainly seems to have missed a lot of putts in the 10-15 ft range this year.

PhilipMarlowe

How many chances has McIlroy yesterday of around 10ft and less on the back 9?
How many did he make?
None - Oh my god, he's washed up!!!
We've seen the beginning of the end and all the while we thought we were just watching a golfer miss putts at Augusta...

KKmanok

Licksy wrote: »

How many chances has McIlroy yesterday of around 10ft and less on the back 9?
How many did he make?
None - Oh my god, he's washed up!!!
We've seen the beginning of the end and all the while we thought we were just watching a golfer miss putts at Augusta...

RM for the first 3 days was immaculate from Tee to green (accuracy and distance), that is the reason he didn't need to hole anything over 10 feet and still lead. Similarly Lee Westwood is usually immaculate tee to green and became Number 1 golfer whilst being a crap putter (btw westwood will win nothing of significance if he doesn't improve in this department)

PH unfortunately is never going to be the most consistent off the tee but I keep on arguing hat he never has been (even in 07 & 08) why do you think he reconstructed his swing at the end of 08? the main difference between PH now and PH 2000 - 2008 is; his short game has gone from brilliant to average. Now that he is hitting 40 and his putting in particular has begun to let him down (and has done for 15 months) he may find it difficult to get that magic around the greens back......if he doesn't unfortunately his days of contending in the majors will be a thing of the past. I hope that is not the case but for Harrington fans (of which I am one) this is a very genuine worry. The point I'm trying to make is based on his last 2 years golf not just this week

Ben1010

Harrington is the man for me and always will be!!! He be back for more success.

Love his Wilson Staff ad...."Seriously" :):):)

Sprouts

Ben1010 wrote: »

Harrington is the man for me and always will be!!! He be back for more success.

Love his Wilson Staff ad...."Seriously" :):):)

His ads are terrible, he should pack them in. Seriously though, there's plenty left in the tank for Padraig if he'd only stop tinkering with his swing.