The Daily Fail Strikes again!!!!

rochey84

Hey guys don't know if you saw this but Richard Waghorne has stated that he thinks gay marraige is selfish the article is here: http://richardtwaghorne.wordpress.com/2011/04/05/gay-marriage/

I won't quote it, but basically this is going to be discussed on Dublin's 98FM tonight from about 10 on and I've been invited to speak, what do you guys think?

wonderfulname

I think he's selfish. I think he has ulterior motives, his article nicely plasters over the truth of gay parenting. Where are his sources? Why doesn't he mention any sources which disprove his crap? The best interests of the nations children my arse...

rochey84

I dunno what his sources are but I can only post the link, and people can question it as they see fit!

rainbow kirby

Excellent response to the article by Conor Prendergast here.

diddlybit

Marriage is vital as a framework within which children can be brought up by a man and woman. Not all marriages, of course, involve child-raising. And there are also, for that matter, same-sex couples already raising children. But the reality is that marriages tend towards child-raising and same-sex partnerships do not.

But this not really an argument, or a foundation for an argument, it's a generalisation about statistics.

it is a demand for marriage to be redefined.

I fail to see how this can be a bad thing.

The best interests of the children of the nation must always come first.

I detest this type of rhetoric, (Think of the children!) especially since Waghorne refuses to state how not allowing same-sex marraige will not serve the best interests of children.

Good luck!

wonderfulname

rochey84 wrote: »

I dunno what his sources are but I can only post the link, and people can question it as they see fit!

I doubt he has any, some real sources for the opposite viewpoint;
http://www.cpa.ca/cpasite/userfiles/Documents/Marriage%20of%20Same-Sex%20Couples%20Position%20Statement%20-%20October%202006%20(1).pdf

http://www.psychology.org.au/Assets/Files/LGBT-Families-Lit-Review.pdf

As detailed in this review, the family studies literature indicates that it is family processes (such as the
quality of parenting and relationships within the family) that contribute to determining children’s wellbeing and ‘outcomes’, rather than family structures, per se, such as the number, gender, sexuality and
co-habitation status of parents

wonderfulname

If anybody wants to listen; http://www.98fm.com/onair/shows/joan-lea/#

Practising homosexuals... lovely... I worry for this country.

rochey84

So did I do alright? did I sound as nervous as I felt?

wonderfulname

If you were the guest I think you were you did wonderfully, guy after the crazy christian?

rochey84

Thanks, yeah that was me, I hope I managed to avoid speaking in very general terms and got my point across clearly!!

Teddy_Picker

Grrr what a rag The Oirish Daily Heil really is! :mad:
"Same sex marriage harmful to society?" I always find it baffling when I hear statements like this, as if there's some kind of balancing scales of rights, that if one group is granted rights it somehow undermines another group!

I also take issue with the apparent premise that because Waghorne himself is gay, it gives him some kind of carte blanche to spout this kind of reactionary drivel. :mad:

Urgh.

rochey84

Well done Teddy very well put about the hack I mean journalist!

wonderfulname

You were very clear, you did a good job of setting right some of what the previous guy had said, and not only did you not speak in general terms you made it obvious that nobody else can.

Teddy, you hit the nail on the head, it amazes me how various medias trot out one member of a minority as though to say "See, see, even they think they're wrong!"

TylerIE

The lovely Lolek Ltd (Iona) have the Daily Mail Article featured on their .eu homepage too...

Teddy_Picker

Waghorne has posted a lengthy follow-up to yesterday's column.
http://richardtwaghorne.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/gay-marriage-responses-to-responses/

He, and like-minded folks, such as the Iona gang, won't seem to be convinced by any power on earth! :mad:

Rachiee

gay marriage is actually the best way of protecting the nations children, as realistically whether there is marriage or not gay couple will have children these children need the same standing security and assurances in law as children of straight couples.

Children are hardly mentioned in the civil parnership bill its a disgrace while the civil partnership bill is in place instead of gay marriage we will not be equal and neither will our children.