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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭xflyer


    Of course it's true. Many is the soldier who enjoyed their barbarity. Soldiers like blowing things up and killing people who they believe deserve killing.

    But this thread is going to be interesting. We have a number of apologists here for the Nazis, the Germans, the Landser on this forum. I could name the individuals now. But won't, they tend to get all offended when you expose their double standards. They will point out the supposed barbarities of allied troops. Somehow this apparently excuses the excesses of the Nazis. They like to compare and excuse the brutality of German soldiers and airmen. They like to suggest that the Jews exaggerate the extent of their oppression and even suggest that the engineered the whole thing along with Churchill and Roosevelt. They like to suggest that the whole holocaust thing was exaggerated.

    What is interesting about the Germans of WW2, not the Nazis, the Germans, was that they really believed in what they did. They believed or were made to believe that what they were doing was the right thing. So their enjoyment of killing was perfectly understandable.They were killing enemies of Germany,

    Watch this space.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    Not an apologist, but it is the Daily Mail.

    Not exactly a paragon of journalistic virtue.

    I'd take everything in that piece with a rather large packet of salt until the book comes out, and even then it would be worth investigating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    gatecrash wrote: »
    Not an apologist, but it is the Daily Mail.

    Not exactly a paragon of journalistic virtue.

    I'd take everything in that piece with a rather large packet of salt until the book comes out, and even then it would be worth investigating.

    Exactly its the Daily Mail. Even at a quick scan through the article they have a well known picture of an attack on a soviet village and they can't even distinguish between a half-track and a tank.

    But this thread is going to be interesting. We have a number of apologists here for the Soviets, the Russians, the Commies on this forum. I could name the individuals now. But won't, they tend to get all offended when you expose their double standards. They will point out the supposed barbarities of German troops. Somehow this apparently excuses the excesses of the Soviets. They like to compare and excuse the brutality of Russian soldiers and airmen. They like to suggest that the Germans and Eastern Europeans exaggerate the extent of their oppression and even suggest that the engineered the whole thing along with Churchill and Roosevelt. They like to suggest that the whole genocide and campaign of mass-rapes thing was exaggerated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    I read the article and it is sensationalist garbage in my opinion.

    They have trawled through 13,000 wartime transcripts to find the most salacious comments from a handful of men and present them in a sensationalist manner, completely devoid of the context of partisan operations etc.

    I thought this comment from the mail page said it best:

    So, the comments of a percentage of 13,000 soldiers is used to smear the lot of 18 million? Give me a break. This is the worst type of historical revisionism. Paint with this broad a brush and you can besmirch every single army involved in World War II; British, American, Russian, Italian, French, Italian, African, and many, many more. Cheap sensationalism. Disgusting.

    - Yobee, Midwest, USA, 5/4/2011 13:56


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