Derry Clay Pipe, is it old?

R0C

Found this clay pipe on a beach.

Is it likely to be old?

Has 'DERRY' printed into it, which I believe is a type of clay pipe, and there are two other letters printed before the DERRY, possibly 'SD' or '8D'.

Any info appreciated, thanks.

Victor

You link is a bit confused, this works: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5106/5588507815_015c2e67d8_o.jpg

The image is also huge.

R0C

Think I've fixed it now. Thanks!

R0C

I wanted it big to make the lettering on it clear, but here is a smaller version.

boneless

I think it has "EDENDERRY" stamped on it. It looks 19th century to me, due to the style of the lettering. What size is the bowl? The smaller the bowl, the possibilites of being of an earlier date. Tobacco was expensive in the 17th and 18th centuries but became cheaper towards the middle of the 19th, hence more pipes and larger bowls.

R0C

Don't have it to hand to measure right now but I'll include a couple of more pictures.







Thanks for your reply.

Aelfric

Morphologically, it's late - 1750's onwards

boneless

Aelfric wrote: »

Morphologically, it's late - 1750's onwards

I think mid to late 19th century, maybe even later. See how thick the rim of the bowl is?

Mind you, there are still clay pipes being produced today.

R0C

I think the 'Derry' may be of importance, if you do a google search for "Derry clay pipe" there are several references to pipes being found with DERRY stamped into them. I don't believe it says 'Edenderry'; upon closer inspection it is almost certainly 'SD' or '8D' followed by 'DERRY'.

There is a report of an arcahological dig on a farm in Co. Down and one of the items recovered is a clay pipe with 'Derry' stamped on it.

The description states:

Clay pipe stem fragment, stamped `DERRY'. The mark `DERRY' referred to a type of pipe which was made in various pipe-making centres, including Belfast and Glasgow, as well as Londonderry. Late nineteenth century.

I wonder if the 8D or SD was a model number for this type of pipe?

marknine

R0C wrote: »

Found this clay pipe on a beach.

Is it likely to be old?

Has 'DERRY' printed into it, which I believe is a type of clay pipe, and there are two other letters printed before the DERRY, possibly 'SD' or '8D'.

Any info appreciated, thanks.

Just wondering if you found it on a beech or in a bank, by the beech. If it was on a beech, I would imagine that the pipe would be very weather worn. It looks very fresh and not stained or eroded. Did you find anything else about your pipe? Be nice to know. Good luck

marknine

R0C wrote: »

Found this clay pipe on a beach.

Is it likely to be old?

Has 'DERRY' printed into it, which I believe is a type of clay pipe, and there are two other letters printed before the DERRY, possibly 'SD' or '8D'.

Any info appreciated, thanks.

Just wondering if you found it on a beech or in a bank, by the beech. If it was on a beech, I would imagine that the pipe would be very weather worn. It looks very fresh and not stained or eroded. Did you find anything else about your pipe? Be nice to know. Good luck

jac1

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/irish-immigrants-murdered-while-working-on-us-railway-to-be-reburied-3045201.html

R0C

Well spotted, Jac1, thanks for sharing that link. Very interesting.

The above pipe was found in the sand, outside of the area where the water comes in, partially exposed due to wild weather, and hadn't been in the water (at least not recently) when I found it; it was dry.

After looking in the same spot again, there were more pipes and the very worn remains of a sack. Seems like they may have been buried there rather than washed in by the sea in recent times.

The pipes were discovered on the West coast.

Tweeedy4020

Ya find out much about it??i found one yesterday washed up on a beach in bettystown was wondering the same