Website Business Ideas

SlanGoFoil2011

Hi,

Curious.

Is there somewhere you can go with website ideas.

Obviously 1) most are are just rubish ideas or 2) are just too expensive to pursue.

But how can you find out if it is rubbish or if someone would be willing to come onboard for a share and help with the development side.

I assume this is a common enough query?

If you cant programme or dont have €20K to pay someone should you just forget your idea or is there a path to follow?

I have had interest in the idea but not from someone who can actually programme and I wouldnt like to risk someone elses money. Even if I did get the money for the development I assume there is a constant requirement for funds to keep a website upto date and free of issue.

Any help apprieciated.

Thanks

ssbob

SlanGoFoil2011 wrote: »

Hi,

Curious.

Is there somewhere you can go with website ideas.

Obviously 1) most are are just rubish ideas or 2) are just too expensive to pursue.

But how can you find out if it is rubbish or if someone would be willing to come onboard for a share and help with the development side.

I assume this is a common enough query?

If you cant programme or dont have €20K to pay someone should you just forget your idea or is there a path to follow?

I have had interest in the idea but not from someone who can actually programme and I wouldnt like to risk someone elses money. Even if I did get the money for the development I assume there is a constant requirement for funds to keep a website upto date and free of issue.

Any help apprieciated.

Thanks

Why don't you try and seek investment and then pay someone to do the programming work etc?

You can acquire angel investors from a host of different places, Irish Investment Network is one that I have been using.

Another alternative would be to offer someone equity for the work they do on your website.

SlanGoFoil2011

I would be happy to offer equity or money to someone who could do the development work.

I would prefer someone in Ireland that can develop - money has a tendancy to get sucked into a black hole if the developer isnt part of the business.

You really need the expertise onboard.

calahans

Collab is a good resource for this. Best of luck!

AndyJB

SlanGoFoil2011 wrote: »

Hi,

Curious.

Is there somewhere you can go with website ideas.

Obviously 1) most are are just rubish ideas or 2) are just too expensive to pursue.

But how can you find out if it is rubbish or if someone would be willing to come onboard for a share and help with the development side.

I assume this is a common enough query?

If you cant programme or dont have €20K to pay someone should you just forget your idea or is there a path to follow?

I have had interest in the idea but not from someone who can actually programme and I wouldnt like to risk someone elses money. Even if I did get the money for the development I assume there is a constant requirement for funds to keep a website upto date and free of issue.

Any help apprieciated.

Thanks

Afternoon,
Have you a business plan for your concept? I've seen one or two boards.ie posts that mention that you don't need them, but, I believe they're a great way to keep a start-up on track, anyway 99.99% of potential investors will require one. Of course as a business progresses the plans will evolve.

You'll also need a roadmap for the web design needed or you could end up looking into a "black hole" of cost over runs without an end result.

Don't go down the web development route just yet. Put your plans down on paper, get an idea of your potential market/customers. Add in your potential costs versus your potential revenues. That'll form the basis of your plan.

When you've that done contact your local enterprise board and see what they have to say about it.

I'd also be happy to cast an eye over whatever you have (PRO-BONO), but whoever you talk with make sure you include a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) prior to showing plans.

PM me and I'll be happy to send you a copy of the NDA that I use. You can change it to suit your needs.

Best of luck
AB

Zonua

SlanGoFoil2011 wrote: »

Hi,

Curious.

Is there somewhere you can go with website ideas.

Obviously 1) most are are just rubish ideas or 2) are just too expensive to pursue.

But how can you find out if it is rubbish

Well, you can research.
There is a lot of help out there in the Enterprise Boards.

From your post it seems that you have a few ideas, not all websites cost 20K.

SlanGoFoil2011

Its 1 idea.

I have it worked out phsically, graphically etc but not technically.

Domain purchased, logo designed, layout designed. But nothing programmed.

Its not selling anything so a return would not be straight away. Its a site that would build users through its functionality. Then when a mass of users is reached the site would be used to generate revenue through advertising.

This is the issue - and why I want a developer partner. If I get investment money the drive for finacial return could hinder the long-term plan.

I have had interest and offers of some money - but I have heard that hiring developers can work out very expensive.

RATM

I run an IT outsourcing operation with a team of 15 developers behind me. Many are Phd. students and are very very talented at what they do and can work with the newest of technologies, including robotics, artificial intelligence and augmented reality & 3-D so coding websites is no probs to these lads. They also bring our projects in at a superb price, in fact I ask all my clients to get quotes from the 'big boys' because I know my lads can beat them on price every time.
They might be interested in a equity swap but that would depend on their element of risk-i.e. they'd need to know more to assess whether or not the site would take off. No problems to sign a NDA whatsoever.

But my main concern would be your online marketing- have you considered the cost/expense of SEO, SMO, etc? You need a good investment in these to drive traffic and it ain't easy. If your topic/informational site is in a crowded space you'll have a difficult time getting it onto Page 1 in Google, if you can't do that then advertisers won't pay you as much.

Feel free to PM me if you want.

EIREHotspur

Well it sounds like you want a complicated website for your needs.

If I were you I would want as few people in on this until you got it up and running so picking the right few people to work with will be the crux.

RATM's offer is a good one and like he said when it is all built then the marketing will be just as important and will take a good deal of money to do right.

I know you have to keep the details under wraps and without knowing how complex it is all we can do is speculate.

Websites need not cost 20k.
For example, Some companies charge 1,500euro for an ecommerce website but some charge many times more.

Anyone building a website would build it so you can update things easily yourself so it wouldn't cost a lot to update.
Is it PHP, ASP?

You do need a Partner to develop it.

SlanGoFoil2011

Thanks for all the advice - and ill get back tomorrow with something.

The website can be broken into 3 sections - which can be developed seperatly and added on.

I know its not that complex and that the cost would be nowhere near 20K, but my fear is that the 1st attempt is not correct and costs money, I then need somebody else to do it properly - more money. Then the second phase doesnt work properly with 1st phase because the initial developer is no longer available. Next thing I know is I am spending all my money fixing problems.

So really I am not that worried about the initial cost, I have had someone look at it and it shouldnt be too much- its ongoing costs which I am afraid can mount up, or that the standard of work I get done, looks fine to me - but is impossible to fix when there is problems.

EIREHotspur

Well thats why choosing the right person to work with is your first move.

I would also advise you to pick up as much knowledge as you can on Web Development.
Ten years ago I knew nothing of Web Design but I educated myself and can now build Database Driven Websites and can design to a very high standard.

If your idea is a good one and you believe in it then spend the time to understand the technology behind it.

If you are clear about what you want then changes are built into the price.
Thats why choose a guy who will work long term with you on this and never ever negotiate somebody on a per hour basis.

You know that your website idea is in three sections so where is the surprise to adding on at a future point?

Lepreckon

I have already launched a few sites which are basically the same ideas but in 4 different languages. i have been told by a lot of people that the concept is excellent and the name, logo, slogan, layout etc is very impressive. i am a motivated person and so far the biggest mistake I have made is bringing two others on board. They know nothing about Internet Marketing so all of the work is left up to me on that front. I have had one of my sites taxed for value so I think I will be selling off the lot at the end of the year.

I think my next venture will be alone. With 15k I could earn a lot more within 1 year by delegating all the required tasks including, web development and marketing. You don't need to do the work yourself but simply know where to find others to do the work for you at reasonable prices while delivering quality work.

The most difficult task is finding the 15k to get going. My day will come, this I know!

ssbob

What do you mean by this?

Lepreckon wrote: »

I have had one of my sites taxed for value so I think I will be selling off the lot at the end of the year.

You can't be taxed on something you own.....................

Lepreckon

ssbob wrote: »

What do you mean by this?



You can't be taxed on something you own.....................

By taxed I mean valued. Just like getting a website taxed or valued before selling.

Chardee MacDennis

Lepreckon wrote: »

By taxed I mean valued. Just like getting a website taxed or valued before selling.

I think you're getting your terms mixed up...

Lepreckon

Your correct. i just should have said valued.

tnx for the correction = clarity.

SlanGoFoil2011

So what are the website you got valued.

Did you programme them yourself or who did you get to do it.

Did you give them shares - how did it work out

ssbob

BastardPrince wrote: »

I think you're getting your terms mixed up...

+1

Jayireland

you really need a team to handel it,the website would not need 20K,any help PM ME
ACTUALLY I have the same problem as ur,i am looking for partner as well

SlanGoFoil2011

But what do you do.
Are you a developer

Jayireland

no ,i am not,my friend he is ,i am the marketing person,but in ireland i do not think u can find a good developer with the low price ,i find the Chinese company to develop the site,hope i can do ur help ,thank u

GroupDeals

SlanGoFoil2011, have you tried freelance websites such as elance or freelancer?

I've outsourced a few development jobs and have found them to be a very high level.

PM me if you want more details

stephenpalmer

what is the website? Can you share the link from the other similar sites?

mikefm

Speaking with the Enterprise Boards would help or try getting an Innovation Voucher

yop

How have people got on with getting high quality HTML/CSS templates developed?

We are looking at outsourcing this and I will integrate these then and do all the coding and database.

HellFireClub

SlanGoFoil2011 wrote: »

Hi,

Curious.

Is there somewhere you can go with website ideas.

Obviously 1) most are are just rubish ideas or 2) are just too expensive to pursue.

But how can you find out if it is rubbish or if someone would be willing to come onboard for a share and help with the development side.

I assume this is a common enough query?

If you cant programme or dont have €20K to pay someone should you just forget your idea or is there a path to follow?

I have had interest in the idea but not from someone who can actually programme and I wouldnt like to risk someone elses money. Even if I did get the money for the development I assume there is a constant requirement for funds to keep a website upto date and free of issue.

Any help apprieciated.

Thanks

I had this decision to make before, I learnt how to develop myself and went at it. It's a tough long hard slog though and it's not for everyone. I'd now consider web development to be more of a hobby than a job, (which it is for me now), but if I had to pay someone to develop and maintain it, I just wouldn't have bothered...

blue4ever

@SlanGoFoil2011

You give the impression that the site is not 'that' complex or perhaps I underestimate it. Have you look at tinkering around with one of the off the shelf CMS plans?

Even for yourself to learn a few bits which would be great when you are dealing with developers.