crypto scour

red bull

Lost a few calves 4 weeks old vet said he thought it was crypto anyone know about it

whelan1

there have been a few threads on this.... for crypto i give 3 x 4ml shots of halocur from day 1 to day 3 , so thats 12 ml a day for 3 days from birth... also oocide disenfectant this is the only disenfectant to kill crypto ... you need to be contiuosly cleaning out the sheds , at this time of year i prefer to have them calving outside as there might have been a build up of disease in the sheds

manjou

I use ordinary hydrated lime and cover everything in it when cleaning out sheds. also switched to woodchip from straw keeps calves cleaner.When calves are born they get an at birth tube from stockcare it has anti bodies for most scours including crypto.No scours losses since starting doing all this

whelan1

manjou wrote: »

I use ordinary hydrated lime and cover everything in it when cleaning out sheds. also switched to woodchip from straw keeps calves cleaner.When calves are born they get an at birth tube from stockcare it has anti bodies for most scours including crypto.No scours losses since starting doing all this

lime WILL NOT kill crypto... been there done that ... had it for years ... this is the first year -touch wood - i have had no losses from it

High bike

whelan1 wrote: »

lime WILL NOT kill crypto... been there done that ... had it for years ... this is the first year -touch wood - i have had no losses from it

how long does it take to cure?

whelan2

High bike wrote: »

how long does it take to cure?

what are you treating it with?

High bike

whelan2 wrote: »

what are you treating it with?

had the vet with her on Thursday ,gave her a couple of shots don't know what told me leave her with the cow and gave me electrolytes called scour proof plus,one and a half litres twice a day while scour persists.Her temp was up,not much but normal today and seems a bit brighter but still scouring badly

whelan2

did you give any halocur?

High bike

whelan2 wrote: »

did you give any halocur?

no just what the vet said,is it any good to dry em up?

whelan2

have you many left to calve might be no harm to do any new calves with the halocur, i also use effydral tablets dissloved in 1 litre of water, clean out , powerwash and disenfect any infected shed

High bike

whelan2 wrote: »

have you many left to calve might be no harm to do any new calves with the halocur, i also use effydral tablets dissloved in 1 litre of water, clean out , powerwash and disenfect any infected shed

thats the killer she's the last one and calved outside so don't know how she picked it up.Ill do the shed when shes out hopefully.Do you think I could give her the halcour with the electrolytes?

Limestone Cowboy

High bike wrote: »

thats the killer she's the last one and calved outside so don't know how she picked it up.Ill do the shed when shes out hopefully.Do you think I could give her the halcour with the electrolytes?

Definitely do, had one with it last week that I had to drip twice. Keep the electrolytes horsed into them anyway.

High bike

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Definitely do, had one with it last week that I had to drip twice. Keep the electrolytes horsed into them anyway.

slow time consuming job but has to be done

ford 5600

High bike wrote: »

slow time consuming job but has to be done

A week ago I wouldn't have known anything about crypto . Sadly I can't say the same now. I have 2 calves with it . Had the vet out on Wednesday . No miracle cure unfortunately. Giving them Halocur, but it's more a preventative than a cure. Had 1 born today, and gave it Halocur. Only 2 more to calve, thank God.
The sickening thing I find is , say this morning one of them drinks , and you think it has turned the corner. Tonight,it won't take a drop, but maybe opposite with the other one. No taste for milk, some hope with Life-aids or Effydrals.
Is grinding of the teeth a symptom of it ? It's some dose.

farawaygrass

Using holocor here for the first tine this year and working wonders so far. Seemed to cure anyone get had it first, and although a few more picked it up they never suffered bad with it while on halocur. It's well worth the hassle. Did any new born calves at the end for the 7 days

Limestone Cowboy

High bike wrote: »

slow time consuming job but has to be done

Are you tubing it? It's funny but I came across a nice little nugget of info when I went to the vet with my one. I had a lot of scour this year and had been using effydral tablets all along for any calf that was getting a bit wobbly or dehydrated as I thought, I ran out of effydral tablets and was using lectates on the last calf and it's worse she was getting. Vet said that she was actually acidotic and not dehydrated and there was (some kind of carbonate I think) in the effydral that would stop that happening and if using lectates or life aid to add 2 tablespoons of bread soda to combat that. In fairness it seems to do the trick. She reckoned it's no harm to throw in 2 tablespoons of glucose with the effydral when your mixing it aswell.

whelan2

i had an outbreak a few weeks ago, lost 2 calves, all calves get halocur here from birth for 3 days anyway. I think the 2 i lost the mothers mightnt have had the rotavec injection-or it had gone over the timeframe after it was given to work- got vet , they said no life aid ,give effydral, halocur and norodine injection, keep calf on normal milk feed. Read here at the time to give as fresh a biestings as you can as it helps with the lining of the stomach. Have the last of the cows calving outside

Tomjim

to prevent crypto is it 12 ml x 3 days or 4 ml x 3 days

whelan2

Tomjim wrote: »

to prevent crypto is it 12 ml x 3 days or 4 ml x 3 days

12 ml for 3 days from birth

mallethead

I use it for a week to ten days and have no problems with this scour as of lately
every calf used to get it and its one of the hardest scours to cure kills very quickly
3 days might not be long enough to be dosing tha calf


Uses For the prevention of diarrhoea caused by Cryptosporidium parvum in newborn calves on farms with a history of cryptosporidiosis and reduction of diarrhoea due to diagnosed Cryptosporidium parvum. Halocur has been demonstrated to reduce oocyst excretion.




Dosage and Administration For oral use in calves after feeding.
Calves 35 kg to 45 kg: 8 ml Halocur once a day for 7 consecutive days.
Calves 45 kg to 60 kg: 12 ml Halocur once a day for 7 consecutive days.
For prevention of diarrhoea treatment should start within 24-48 hours of birth, for reduction treatment should start within 24 hours of the onset of diarrhoea. Consecutive treatments should be administered at 24 hour intervals.
The dosage should be accurately calculated for calves heavier than 65 kg or lighter than 35 kg, on the basis of 2 ml/10 kg. Overdosage is dangerous, toxicity may occur at 2 times the therapeutic dose.
Once the first calf has been treated, all other newborn calves in the herd must be treated as long as the risk of diarrhoea due to Cryptosporidium parvum persists.
To ensure correct dosage, use either the applicator provided, which dispenses 4ml per shot or an appropriately graduated syringe.




Contra-indications, warnings etc. Do not use on an empty stomach. Do not use in cases of diarrhoea, which have been established for more than 24 hours and in weak animals. For treatment of anorexic calves, the product should be administered in half a litre of an electrolyte solution by stomach tube.
Animals should receive adequate colostrum.
Overdose: As symptoms of toxicity may occur at 2 times the therapeutic dose, it is necessary to adhere strictly to the recommended dosage. Symptoms of toxicity include diarrhoea, visible blood in faeces, decline in milk consumption, dehydration, apathy and prostration.
Should clinical signs of overdosing occur the treatment must be stopped immediately and the animal fed milk or milk replacer. Rehydration may be necessary.
Repetitive contact with the product may lead to skin allergies. Avoid skin and eye contact with the product. In case of skin and eye contact wash thoroughly the exposed area with clean water. If eye irritation persists, seek medical advice.
Wear protective gloves while handling the product. Wash hands after use.
Halocur should not enter watercourses, as this may be dangerous for fish and other aquatic organisms.
Withdrawal period
Meat and offal 13 days
Any unused veterinary medicinal product or waste materials derived from such veterinary medicinal product should be disposed of in accordance with the local requirements.




Pharmaceutical Precautions Avoid introduction of contamination. Keep out of reach of children.




Legal Category: POM



Package quantities 500ml high-density polyethylene bottle containing 490 ml of the oral solution.




Further information Nil.



Marketing authorisation number:EU/2/99/013/001

whelan2

i am using it at that rate of 3 days for the last 3or 4 years under vets advice, this spring i had 2 deaths, my own fault, didnt clean out pens enough towards the end of calving, has worked fine otherwise.

High bike

Am I right in saying this Halocur is more a preventative measure than a cure,or is it both?

whelan2

High bike wrote: »

Am I right in saying this Halocur is more a preventative measure than a cure,or is it both?

it says above for the PREVENTION of crypto, vet has said here if they have it to go with the 8ml for 7 days .

High bike

whelan2 wrote: »

it says above for the PREVENTION of crypto, vet has said here if they have it to go with the 8ml for 7 days .

Sound thanks

High bike

went to the vet today to get the halocur he said no point as it's more for prevention than cure,he told me to continue to keep her hydrated and add a couple of spoons of bred soda and some natural yogurt said it can take 10 days to clear

pbthevet

High bike wrote: »

went to the vet today to get the halocur he said no point as it's more for prevention than cure,he told me to continue to keep her hydrated and add a couple of spoons of bred soda and some natural yogurt said it can take 10 days to clear

Id agree with this to be fair. Halocur any new born calves but as its ur last calf just keep it hydrated. Probably should give some alamycin as you said earlier it had a temperature. Could have a bit of pneumonia aswell as the crypto

High bike

pbthevet wrote: »

Id agree with this to be fair. Halocur any new born calves but as its ur last calf just keep it hydrated. Probably should give some alamycin as you said earlier it had a temperature. Could have a bit of pneumonia aswell as the crypto

the temp is normal yesterday and today but still scour everywhere,it's some dose:mad:

pbthevet

High bike wrote: »

the temp is normal yesterday and today but still scour everywhere,it's some dose:mad:

Thats due to the reaction of the calfs gut becoming thickened. Harder for milk to get sbsorbed so it passes out as a milky scour. Any blood in it? Be sign of rotavirus too. Lucky its last calf but this year has been nightmare for good few of my clients down here in south east.

Very tight calving period due to fantastic fertility last year and good nutrition caused a record amount of calves to be born in a few weeks. Facilities werent ready for it, cows got stresses , calves left in calving pen too long, not fed colostrum and then not enough milk plus no time to proper clean out sheds. Was like a perfect storm.

Imagine stomach tubing 40 calves twice a day. Id 6 lads doing that

Have a read of this. Very well put togetger

http://online.pageflippdf.com/fitx/uzpj/mobile/index.html#p=2

High bike

pbthevet wrote: »

Thats due to the reaction of the calfs gut becoming thickened. Harder for milk to get sbsorbed so it passes out as a milky scour. Any blood in it? Be sign of rotavirus too. Lucky its last calf but this year has been nightmare for good few of my clients down here in south east.

Very tight calving period due to fantastic fertility last year and good nutrition caused a record amount of calves to be born in a few weeks. Facilities werent ready for it, cows got stresses , calves left in calving pen too long, not fed colostrum and then not enough milk plus no time to proper clean out sheds. Was like a perfect storm.

Imagine stomach tubing 40 calves twice a day. Id 6 lads doing that

Have a read of this. Very well put togetger

http://online.pageflippdf.com/fitx/uzpj/mobile/index.html#p=2

very interesting reading thanks for that,and no there's no blood t.g