N25 Midleton - Carrigtwohill Resurfacing Date?

FGR

Hi all. Hopefully you'll be able to help me out on this one.

Is there any idea out there whether the NRA will finally go about resurfacing the dual carriageway from Midleton to Carrigtwohill? Considering there has been at least two fatal RTCs in recent years you'd wonder why they'd leave the road in such a poor condition.

All I could find on a Google search is from January.

Thanks in advance.

L1011

The intent is to do a lot more than just resurface it and as a result its sitting somewhere down the list, which is being got through veeeerry sloooowly.

FGR

I can only imagine that the plans involve sliproads and the like? Hopefully they'll get to it soon as it's absolutely abysmal.

Thanks for your help MYOB.

L1011

http://www.nra.ie/RoadSchemeActivity/CorkCountyCouncil/N25CarrigtwohillMidleton/SchemeName,16546,en.html gives you the extremely low detail on the NRA site about it.

Tonio

I think the NRA link posted relates to the longer term major upgrade including parallel local access roads and a new interchange for Midleton. this probably will not happen anytime soon due to lack of funding IMO.

There is a more immediate resurfacing of the existing road planned. I saw a notice in one of the local papers a few months back and thought it was meant to start by now......

Typewriter

Info on what is/was planned...

http://www.corkrdo.ie/files/N25%20Brochure%202pages.pdf

http://www.corkrdo.ie/files/N25CarrigtwohillMidelton%28merge%29.pdf

FGR

Updating an old thread here but said I'd be fair to the powers that be given the state of the economy.

I'm absolutely thrilled that they've finally resurfaced this road. Something that's been so dangerous for far too long. Although the dream was to have paralell access roads I'm just glad that we can drive on it at 100kph and not fear a pothole similar in size to the Bermuda Triangle (with a similar effect, mind!).

Anyone else agree, or am I the only one here?

Amtmann

I use it about once per week. Fantastic job alright. Long overdue. It's still madness having so many houses along what is a very busy dc, however.

Aidan1

It's a dramatic improvement alright, but badly wanted given the amount of traffic it carries. Now, if only something could be done from the road from the end of the works to Whitegate - it's heavily trafficked (not least by trucks coming from the oil refinery laden), and is starting to break up quite dramatically.

niloc1951

With all the resurfacing being done on the N25 does anyone know why the few hundred meters east of the bridge in Castlemartyr was not brought up to standard when the section west of the bridge was being done back in '08 and hasn't been done since.

Amtmann

Aidan1 wrote: »

It's a dramatic improvement alright, but badly wanted given the amount of traffic it carries. Now, if only something could be done from the road from the end of the works to Whitegate - it's heavily trafficked (not least by trucks coming from the oil refinery laden), and is starting to break up quite dramatically.

I normally head for Cloyne when I reach the Midleton Roundabout. I must take a spin out to Whitegate next time to see the damage for myself. But it's an archaic r-road, so it presumably doesn't have the required structure to handle large vehicles.

Aidan1

The road actually isn't that old, and some of it is very good - a lot of it was actually built in the late 1950s when the oil refinery went up (partially on a new alignment), and it was rebuilt substantially in the late 1970s when the ESB plant in Aghada was built. The problem is simply due to traffic - there can be at least 70-80 trucks loads a day out of the refinery, every day, together with a lot of other heavy traffic (the area is a big tillage area). That, combined with the hills, means that there are a few areas where the pavement has broken up, and the foundations have taken a hammering too. It's worst around Bawnard - positively dangerous with a tractor and trailer and a load of grain.

AugustusMinimus

Tremelo wrote: »

I use it about once per week. Fantastic job alright. Long overdue. It's still madness having so many houses along what is a very busy dc, however.

There are plans to remove these from the main route by building new feeder roads on the side to service them.

Obviously been shelved with all that is going on.

Traction

Does anybody know when the Midleton - Carrigtwohill will be back to normal?
IE: Remove the cones and put back the 100 signs.

Also, anybody notice that the 120 sign is missing outside carrigtwohill when heading Westwards?
http://maps.google.ie/?ll=51.908253,-8.254691&spn=0.002178,0.009645&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=51.908254,-8.254694&panoid=-_f4UManBwpGkznlbM35_A&cbp=11,289.75,,0,8.3

Wonder if this means that the 120 zone is going to start a bit further back.

niloc1951

Traction wrote: »

Does anybody know when the Midleton - Carrigtwohill will be back to normal?
IE: Remove the cones and put back the 100 signs.

Also, anybody notice that the 120 sign is missing outside carrigtwohill when heading Westwards?
http://maps.google.ie/?ll=51.908253,-8.254691&spn=0.002178,0.009645&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=51.908254,-8.254694&panoid=-_f4UManBwpGkznlbM35_A&cbp=11,289.75,,0,8.3

Wonder if this means that the 120 zone is going to start a bit further back.

The 'road works speed limit order' as per Section 10 of the Road Traffic Act 2004 is in force from 04/06/2011 until 09/09/2011.
But it can be extended if there are 'snags' which are unfinished at that date.

Don't know about the missing 120Kmph sign, maybe it's on some spotty teenagers bedroom wall

Traction

niloc1951 wrote: »

The 'road works speed limit order' as per Section 10 of the Road Traffic Act 2004 is in force from 04/06/2011 until 09/09/2011.
But it can be extended if there are 'snags' which are unfinished at that date.

Don't know about the missing 120Kmph sign, maybe it's on some spotty teenagers bedroom wall

Great, hopefully all sorted for the weekend so

Where can you get the information about the road works speed limit orders?

niloc1951

Traction wrote: »

Great, hopefully all sorted for the weekend so

Where can you get the information about the road works speed limit orders?

Some councils use Iris Oifigiúil (the Irish State Gazette) http://www.irisoifigiuil.ie/ Cork Co.Co. do not, they use the official notices section on the Friday edition of the Irish Examiner, which I have not been able to find online, so unless you buy the Friday edition of the publication there is no access to the info :mad:.

I have been told that the Cork Co. Co. website (currently being restructured) will carry the notices sometime in the future.

See http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2004/en/act/pub/0044/sec0010.html for the underpinning legislation and the obligations of the County Council

Some will point to the signage, but councils are notorious for not taking down signage when no longer relevant (Rennicks must be worth a fortune) which has substantially undermined their currency.

Traction

Nice one, cheers for the info

Traction

no change yet anyway
must be a few hidden snags we can't see :P

niloc1951

Traction wrote: »

no change yet anyway
must be a few hidden snags we can't see :P

IMHO the CoCo IS the snag :rolleyes:

Traction

Good to see that the road is back to 'normal'.
Not quite sure what they were doing for those 3 days but at least its finished.

Still missing that 120 sign outside carrigtwohill but its progress!!

Amtmann

I see someone spilt a lot of yellow lining material at the eastbound approach to the Midleton r'bout!

All in all, an excellent job though.

niloc1951

Traction wrote: »

........................Still missing that 120 sign outside carrigtwohill but its progress!!

If you are feeling lonely without it just pop up and down the Barryscourt intersection and you can reacquaint yourself with one as you go back down the slip :D

Who is supposed to be responsible for signage in this area and I mean the individual not the faceless organisation.

Here are two other beauties which have escaped the notice of those responsible for quite a number of years.

The JLT advance notice height sign showing a distance of 2.5 km is in reality 1.3 km from the tunnel portal, it's obviously been planted in the wrong place.

The 100m advance notice sign (N25 near the Two Mile Inn) should clearly indicate a RH curve on the road not a left curve, btw there are two more the same at 250m, comming fom the opposite direction they are correct, so some twit ordered six of the same and forgot that they needed to be 'handed' three left and three right.

But, the most serious aspect to be questioned is the competence or interest in doing a job properly of the people paid to oversee the process

Traction

never noticed that wronghanded sign before, must look out of it.

Saw that spilt paint all right, kinda funny

niloc1951

Traction wrote: »

...........Saw that spilt paint all right, kinda funny

Not funny, sloppy.
I bet if it was on the private property of the person who spilled it or the person supposedly in charge of the person who spilled it it would have been cleaned up :mad::mad:

As I alluded to in an earlier post, it just demonstrates, again, the laissez-faire attitude of those paid (by us taxpayers) to look after our interests.:(:(

niloc1951

Traction wrote: »

never noticed that wronghanded sign before, must look out of it................

And don't forget the two at 250m, one each side of the road.