2 metres from any party boundary.

Bicky

I am thinking of putting on an extension(Garage) but am unclear as to the wording of the exemption for planning.
Specifically this part

3. Any above ground floor extension shall be a distance of not less than 2 metres from any party boundary.

My house is 7 meters from my neighbours house. 3 meters to the boundary of my property(wooden fence) and then 4 meters of parking space to his property. I intend on building the extension as close as possible to the fence. Do i need planning in this situation? I drew a quick plan in sketchup to clarify.

I have builder friends and think i could get this done cheaply. I am hoping 4000 will get me out. However if planning is required will the price skyrocket? I gather i will need a solicitor/ architect / engineer and this would end up costing a small fortune.

Thanks,
jp




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Just realised you cant see text in picture. The black is his carpark space. Light grey is his and my house. Yellow is planned extension. Green is garden space.

Supertech

Planning is required IMO - in order for the extension to be exempt it must be to the rear of the existing property and this is not. There are other considerations in terms of exempt development also.

An Arch Tech or Architect will handle the planning application and certification for you. You may need an Engineer depending on structural issues, but equally you may not. A solicitor may be necessary for mortgage / loan purposes, but will have no role in the Planning aspect of the job.

martinn123

Hi Bicky,

just to clarify one small point, for '' any above ground floor extention''

read 1st floor, or two storey,

so as I doubt you are building the garage underground ignore that particular regulation.

With regard to the other regulations you will need professional advice

Bicky

just to clarify one small point, for '' any above ground floor extention''

read 1st floor, or two storey,

Ah... how did i not spot that. So obvious. Thanks.:D

Supertech wrote: »

Planning is required IMO - in order for the extension to be exempt it must be to the rear of the existing property and this is not. There are other considerations in terms of exempt development also.

Planning exemptions specifically states that

The extension of a house, by the construction or erection of an extension (including a conservatory) to the rear of the house or by the conversion for use as part of the house of any garage, store, shed or other similar structure attached to the rear or to the side of the house.

I have read and think i understand most of the regs. Meeting with a Planner next thursday for clarification. I was in the county council today to ask, and the nice lady working there made an appointment for me. She said that it is possible that my entire estate was developed with the stipulation that no extensions could be built. Absolute bull**** if that is true because i never knew about such a thing. I know of at least two friends who have plans to extend. They have growing family's, but are stuck in ****ty small houses, with huge negative equity.

Carlow52

see number 5 here
http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/Planning/FileDownLoad,1586,en.pdf

exemption only applies if to rear/side and certainly not if in front of building line, its not clear from the sketch whats front and back

Supertech

Bicky the section you have highlighted refers to the conversion of a garage store or shed attached to an existing house to living accomodation and NOT to the erection of a new extension which is what you're proposing.

(In fairness the OR in the middle of the sentence could do with being highlighted in the regulations - it doesn't read very well at first glance )

You need planning.

On a seperate note, I think you'd be doing very well to get the Garage built for that money unless that's labour only - I think the materials alone would be more than that.
The planning element of it shouldn't be very expensive, but obviously there would be fees involved. Shop around and you should get a decent quote.

Bicky

Thanks guys.
That clears things up for me. What does "to the rear of the house" mean?. Anywhere behind the back wall of the house?

(In fairness the OR in the middle of the sentence could do with being highlighted in the regulations - it doesn't read very well at first glance )

Sure. Brackets there would save some time for the planners.

On a seperate note, I think you'd be doing very well to get the Garage built for that money unless that's labour only - I think the materials alone would be more than that.

Eternal optimism and unemployed builders. I know a few guys and the labour will be very cheap. I am also hoping to acquire the materials on donedeal/adverts/resourceful friends. I have been watching the sites for a while and if i am patient i think i can get great deals.

Bicky

On that note i know a few unemployed architects too. Im sure one of them would do it for cheap. I think i could almost do the drawings for them in sketchup.
However do they need to be registered or have some kind of certification?

muffler

Bicky wrote: »

On that note i know a few unemployed architects too. Im sure one of them would do it for cheap. I think i could almost do the drawings for them in sketchup.
However do they need to be registered or have some kind of certification?

All depends on what you want really.

Anyone can prepare and submit the plans for a planning application but 2 matters can arise after the planning stage.

1. You need to give notice of intention to commence work to the Building Control Dept. and if they queried some aspect of the proposal particularly compliance with building regs then whoever prepared the plans would need to be sufficiently qualified and experienced to address any such query.

2. If you intend to sell at a later date you will most likely be asked for a certificate of compliance with planning and building regs. In order to get this it would be recommended that you engage a professional to inspect the works at various stages.

Hope that helps.