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Chain powerlink and 10 speed chain combo recomendation?

  • 30-03-2011 11:18am
    #1
    2wheelsbetter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭


    Hi,

    I'm looking for recommendations for this or something like it and compatible chains. I'm a bit of a weight weenie so the lighter the better. I'm running 10 speed shimano.

    Thanks.


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  • #2
    TinyExplosions
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    If you're looking to remove the chain, the 10SP SRAM ones won't do, they don't come apart again. Something like this is what you want


  • #3
    2wheelsbetter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭2wheelsbetter


    TinyExplosions wrote: »
    If you're looking to remove the chain, the 10SP SRAM ones won't do, they don't come apart again. Something like this is what you want
    That's exactly what I intend it for. Are there certain chains which are compatible with this or can I just insert it into a Dura Ace 10 speed chain? Do I need a specific tool for locking and unlocking it?


  • #4
    TinyExplosions
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    2wheelsbetter wrote: »
    That's exactly what I intend it for. Are there certain chains which are compatible with this or can I just insert it into a Dura Ace 10 speed chain? Do I need a specific tool for locking and unlocking it?

    10sp shimano is compatible with 10 speed shimano or SRAM chains, so you'll be grand.

    No special tools needed, just a pair of pliers


  • #5
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Are you asking if you can use the SRAM link to close a shimano chain? The answer I think is no. Use an SRAM chain which as Tiny says can be used on Shimano gears.


  • #6
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    TinyExplosions wrote: »
    the 10SP SRAM ones won't do, they don't come apart again.
    The 9 speed ones re-open. Just grip the link diagonally with a pliers. Whether they are resuable or not is anothe matter.

    Are the 10 speed different?


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  • #7
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,223 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    petethedrummer wrote: »
    Are the 10 speed different?

    Yes. Powerlink is not the same as Powerlock.


  • #8
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    9 speed wins again.


  • #9
    2wheelsbetter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭2wheelsbetter


    petethedrummer wrote: »
    Are you asking if you can use the SRAM link to close a shimano chain? The answer I think is no. Use an SRAM chain which as Tiny says can be used on Shimano gears.
    It's a shimano 10sp chain so the KMC linked by TinyExplosions (or the Wippermann?) should do the job. No longer interested in the SRAM link because, as has been pointed out here, it's a one time locking mechanism.

    Question. If I think that the shimano chain on my current bike might be too short by say one link would it be ok to just knock out the link pin and stick in the KMC/Wippermann link?


  • #10
    TinyExplosions
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    2wheelsbetter wrote: »
    It's a shimano 10sp chain so the KMC linked by TinyExplosions (or the Wippermann?) should do the job. No longer interested in the SRAM link because, as has been pointed out here, it's a one time locking mechanism.

    Question. If I think that the shimano chain on my current bike might be too short by say one link would it be ok to just knock out the link pin and stick in the KMC/Wippermann link?

    unlikely, as you need to remove a link to put the master link in (because it's one of the 'outside' links, rather than an 'inside' one.

    You basically have 2 different pieces in a chain link, the solid 'inside' part with a hoe through each end, and 2 plates (or 'outside' part) that have pins in that go through the holes on 2 inside links. If your chain is too short, breaking it will give you an 'inside' link on one end, and an 'outside' link on the other end, meaning the kmc master link won't work unless you get two and have a spare 'inside' link to make up the missing piece

    I'm not sure if I'm making much sense here but the answer is a fairly definite 'no'


  • #11
    2wheelsbetter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭2wheelsbetter


    TinyExplosions wrote: »
    I'm not sure if I'm making much sense here but the answer is a fairly definite 'no'
    Thanks TE. Makes sense. It's as I thought it might be but, having never used them before, I just thought that I'd ask anyway. Would have been very obvious when installing the link anyway.


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  • #12
    TinyExplosions
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    2wheelsbetter wrote: »
    Thanks TE. Makes sense. It's as I thought it might be but, having never used them before, I just thought that I'd ask anyway. Would have been very obvious when installing the link anyway.

    It's all square in my head, but invariably causes me confusion whenever I'm changing chains!


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