Casual Workers Deduction

Monkey Business

I'm currently on Casual Workers on the Social Welfare, but I have not worked since the start of December.

Today I got my cheque for St. Patrick's week and there is €20 deducted. I presume this is for the Bank Holiday.

If I remember they deduct that if your employer pays you for the bank holiday but that's only if you've worked x amount of hours over the past few weeks.

During the Christmas period I wasn't working and didn't get paid by my employer but still got deducted.

Is there anything I can do about this? Anything I can do about the Christmas period ones too? Very annoying when all I'm claiming is Casual Workers, no other benefits and that €20 makes a big difference.

Granger13

Monkey Business wrote: »

I'm currently on Casual Workers on the Social Welfare, but I have not worked since the start of December.

Today I got my cheque for St. Patrick's week and there is €20 deducted. I presume this is for the Bank Holiday.

If I remember they deduct that if your employer pays you for the bank holiday but that's only if you've worked x amount of hours over the past few weeks.

During the Christmas period I wasn't working and didn't get paid by my employer but still got deducted.

Is there anything I can do about this? Anything I can do about the Christmas period ones too? Very annoying when all I'm claiming is Casual Workers, no other benefits and that €20 makes a big difference.

Do you have to submit the x and o to show the days off work that you have done? You need to go down to your local welfare offices and explain to them that you have been deducted dispite you not working. They may wonder why you did not go to them over the Xmas period and seek money then.

Also make it clear to them each time you have been deducted you have been living below the personal rate with no other income to bring it back up to the €188. I would go down to them asap to avoid any other deductions. As they obviously still think you are doing casual days work here and there.

Monkey Business

Granger13 wrote: »

Do you have to submit the x and o to show the days off work that you have done? You need to go down to your local welfare offices and explain to them that you have been deducted dispite you not working. They may wonder why you did not go to them over the Xmas period and seek money then.

Also make it clear to them each time you have been deducted you have been living below the personal rate with no other income to bring it back up to the €188. I would go down to them asap to avoid any other deductions. As they obviously still think you are doing casual days work here and there.

Yeah have been submitting the x and o forms every week. Every week has been full of x's since the start of December.

I went down over the Christmas after being deducted €20 several times. At the start the man couldn't understand why I was deducted, then seemed to make something up.

Would it be possible to get the other €20's I got deducted back? I went down on another occasion and explained that I don't think there's any more work for me but the same guy told me to keep filling in the slips until they got in touch with me.

cee_jay

If you have not worked since December you will need to get a P45/Letter from your employer to say you are no longer employed there - the office will then need to move you across to fully unemployed.
The system is designed to deduct the days automatically - you need to get a letter from the employer to say you didn't get paid for the bank holidays and they can issue you the payment then.

deelite

Go to your local Community Welfare Officer (local Health Centre) - show him your pay slips since Christmas and he will be able to look at what you received from SW on his pc. He will do the calculations to see what you had "coming in" over that period as to what you should have had. He should issue you a cheque for the difference. That's my experience.

Mom2Be

Same thing happened me last year when i was handing in x's and o's.. I rang social welfare and enquired. You do not get paid from social on a bank holiday when you are working casual.

Even though you have not worked since December, you are still handing in the yellow slips therefore considered employed and wont get paid for bank hols off social welfare.

Open to correction but it happened me so pretty sure.

Granger13

Monkey Business wrote: »

Yeah have been submitting the x and o forms every week. Every week has been full of x's since the start of December.

I went down over the Christmas after being deducted €20 several times. At the start the man couldn't understand why I was deducted, then seemed to make something up.

Would it be possible to get the other €20's I got deducted back? I went down on another occasion and explained that I don't think there's any more work for me but the same guy told me to keep filling in the slips until they got in touch with me.

If you are not happy with any of the departments decision in regards to you been deducted despite you not having a income and on Bank Holidays you been left living below the Personal Rate for yourself, you have the right to appeal the decision, you can first ask to have it reviewed, if your still not happy with the outcome then you have the right to appeal this.

Granger13

Public holidays

Your employer must pay you for the public holidays which you don’t work, as long as, you have worked at least 40 hours in the 5 weeks immediately before the week of the public holiday.





If you work and get Jobseeker's Benefit, you get a daily rate of Jobseeker's Benefit for the days that you don't work. You will not get Jobseeker’s Benefit for the day you receive payment from your employer for a public holiday but you can continue to get Jobseeker’s Benefit for the other days you do not work.


As above you would of having to be working for at least the 40 hours before your employer will pay your for a bank holiday. Under and you are not entitled to be paid, so therefor the Department would need to pay you for the days as you where not entitled by the employer to be paid unless you worked the above amount of hours