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Fake Modesty

  • 29-03-2011 7:36am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭


    This is something which repulses me. I'd prefer being in the company of some arrogant fool than listening to Rafael Nadal ( I still like him overall though) style fake modesty.

    Day in day out you constantly hear people in the media running their fake modesty routine. I admire people who answer honestly and say they think they are great if thats what they think. This is why I enjoy listening to the likes of Jose Mourinho or Floyd Mayweather. It's such a relief from the fake modesty routine.

    So I want to hear people replying honestly how great they are at something compared to other people.

    If you honestly think you are funny, gorgeous etc....... then say it.


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    Fake modesty and arrogance are both shíte, TBH. They're both arrogance, in different ways. One is mealy-mouthed, the other is out in the open. Though, yeah, if I had to choose which to be, I'd choose the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    If you honestly think you are funny, gorgeous etc....... then say it.





    it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭andyseadog


    Ah i don't really wan't to go on about how amazing i am, but thank you very much for asking :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭BigDuffman


    I'm a royid. I also have mighty phallus and an easy touch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭fakearms123


    This is why I enjoy listening to the likes of Jose Mourinho or Floyd Mayweather.

    As much as I dislike fake/false modesty, it sounds a lot better than listening to these two sh*t covered knobs!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    BigDuffman wrote: »
    I'm a royid. I also have mighty phallus and an easy touch.

    Good man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Nah I'd rather fake modesty. True arrogance is ****in disgusting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    Fine i am a sexy, funny, good looking, skinny brunette. :)



    i feel so much better now thanks OP. :D


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    Mine truly is a butt that won't quit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Fine i am a sexy, funny, good looking, skinny brunette. :)



    i feel so much better now thanks OP. :D

    show us your tits


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    How do spot fake modesty though? People have complimented in me in the past and I didn't agree so I said so, which was miscontrued as fake modesty when actually I just didn't believe it myself.

    But I get ye....celebrities are awful for this shiite. I doubt they're modest if they've put themselves in the lime-light for all the world to see and judge. It's probably better just to say nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Apolloyon


    Fine i am a sexy, funny, good looking, skinny brunette. :)



    i feel so much better now thanks OP. :D

    I have real trouble believing that.

    That you're a brunette that is!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    I'm hung like a donkey!











    An impotent donkey with a small cock...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭blackdog2


    WOOOOOOOF:P:P:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    orourkeda wrote: »
    show us your tits

    again? must i?
    Apolloyon wrote: »
    I have real trouble believing that.

    That you're a brunette that is!;)


    yeah from my avatar you'd expect a purple haired monster but no i am a brunette!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Snazzy_Chazzy


    Ronan Keating was very modest the other night, Singing with Burt....... Singing into the same microphone that Sinatra did....same engineer blah blah blah.
    He was put in his place by Burt "Sing it the way i wrote it Kid"
    Yeah .......... :mad:
    Messiah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭silverspoon


    Isn't fake modesty kind of an Irish thing though?

    I agree it's pretty irritating but it just seems crass to say something like 'thanks, yeah I know' if complimented. Plus no one likes people like Kanye West or Johnny whatever-from-Razorlight who are just obnoxious.

    If I ever do get complimented, I just say something like 'Oh thank you, you're so nice to say that! That's really lifted my mood!' And it's neither any of that 'Yerra what are you on about' etc. stuff, nor being an arrogant prick about getting a compliment.

    But yes, complimenting is a long, drawn-out affair: 'Oh, stop, what are you talking about, I'm crap at this/look like shit/haven't slept in three weeks/have put on weight if anything' and then you have to disagree with that, and then they disagree again...just never compliment anyone, then they won't be falsely modest because they won't have an opportunity to be. Watch their self-esteem wither! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Some people are just humble and ordinary. Even some celebrities. Perceived fake modesty is not always fake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Modesty is a nice trait in people, so is self confidence. Fake modesty and arrogance are shítty traits held only by shítty people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 117 ✭✭Saermegil


    I'm not arrogant, I'm just amazing. It's people's own fault if they can't see it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    I'll thank a person for a compliment/play it up in a jokey way if I believe it's true, and I'll deny it if I believe it isn't true. What does that make me?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    I. AM. AWESOME. :cool:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Isn't fake modesty kind of an Irish thing though?

    I agree it's pretty irritating but it just seems crass to say something like 'thanks, yeah I know' if complimented. Plus no one likes people like Kanye West or Johnny whatever-from-Razorlight who are just obnoxious.

    If I ever do get complimented, I just say something like 'Oh thank you, you're so nice to say that! That's really lifted my mood!' And it's neither any of that 'Yerra what are you on about' etc. stuff, nor being an arrogant prick about getting a compliment.

    But yes, complimenting is a long, drawn-out affair: 'Oh, stop, what are you talking about, I'm crap at this/look like shit/haven't slept in three weeks/have put on weight if anything' and then you have to disagree with that, and then they disagree again...just never compliment anyone, then they won't be falsely modest because they won't have an opportunity to be. Watch their self-esteem wither! :cool:

    There's a diffence between being arrogant and obnoxious about yourself and just having an honest opinion that you are not too bothered about.

    You could be gorgeous and if someone asks how you would rate your looks just answer honestly and say you think you are gorgeous, but you wouldn't bring it up if no one asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Das Kitty wrote: »
    Mine truly is a butt that won't quit.

    Boiled 7up is good for getting rid of the scutters?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    prinz wrote: »
    Some people are just humble and ordinary. Even some celebrities. Perceived fake modesty is not always fake.

    It might not be fake, but there are so many circumstances where if it isn't fake then they are clearly deluded and should see a psychiatrist.

    Take Rafael Nadal for example: If he seriously doesn't think he is one of the greatest tennis players who has played the game he has some serious issues in that head of his.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    liah wrote: »
    I'll thank a person for a compliment/play it up in a jokey way if I believe it's true, and I'll deny it if I believe it isn't true. What does that make me?

    Firstly fairly normal and possibly slightly insecure if you feel the need to always play it up in a jokey way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭whydoibother?


    I don't think anybody could get away with "yes, I'm great" in Ireland. Even if others suspect a person thinks they're great, without the perosn having said anything, they'll be labelled "full of themselves". Fake modesty may well pain the person acting just as much as the person listening, but they feel they have to go through the motions for this reason. I'm not saying people should walk around announcing their brilliance at every turn, but the ability to be measured would be positive.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    I don't think anybody could get away with "yes, I'm great" in Ireland. Even if others suspect a person thinks they're great, without the perosn having said anything, they'll be labelled "full of themselves". Fake modesty may well pain the person acting just as much as the person listening, but they feel they have to go through the motions for this reason. I'm not saying people should walk around announcing their brilliance at every turn, but the ability to be measured would be positive.

    Yea I understand this, but it's still tiresome to have to listen to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    It might not be fake, but there are so many circumstances where if it isn't fake then they are clearly deluded and should see a psychiatrist. Take Rafael Nadal for example: If he seriously doesn't think he is one of the greatest tennis players who has played the game he has some serious issues in that head of his.

    Not neccessarily, it's easy to be objective looking at him as a third party. Nadal grew up probably idolising some players who were big when he was a kid, and even though he is far better than them now, it can be hard to readjust to put yourself on par with or above the people you have held in such high regard. A proper placing of Nadal in terms of all-time greats can really only be done by someone else, because his own experiences of others will be tainted. It's the same with anyone who grows up looking up to someone. It can be difficult to come to terms with the fact that you have surpassed your one time heroes. Also there is the rose tinted view of the past to consider where the people you watched as a kid assume almost mythical status.

    It's far, far easier for us to consider Nadal better than others, not neccessarily as easy for himself to see it tbh. It works the same way for Nadal as it does for GAA players on club teams. You will often hear GAA players talk about the "greats" they watched as kids, even though the players of today could be more skilled, fitter, faster, etc.

    Nadal could feel like he has awful big boots to fill and hasn't really come to terms that he already does fill them, or they are too small for him already. It doesn't automatically equate to being falsely modest or psychiatric problems. I'd say it's an even bigger problem with someone like Nadal who has achieved so much so young. It probably hasn't sunk in with him yet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Firstly fairly normal and possibly slightly insecure if you feel the need to always play it up in a jokey way.

    I don't 'always' do it, it depends on the type of compliment.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    liah wrote: »
    I don't 'always' do it, it depends on the type of compliment.

    I used to be a bit embarrased by compliments, I made sure from then on to just say thanks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    I used to be a bit embarrased by compliments, I made sure from then on to just say thanks.

    Exactly the same with me. I realised even if I don't agree, it's rude to pooh pooh what people are saying to me so now I always accept graciously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭crow_eat_crow


    I love this bit of fake modesty:


    This is an actual essay written by a college applicant. The author, Hugh Gallagher, now attends NYU.
    Essay: In order for the admissions staff of our college to get to know you, the applicant, better, we ask that you answer the following question: Are there any significant experiences you have had, or accomplishments you have realized, that have helped to define you as a person?

    I am a dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient in the area of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I write award-winning operas, I manage time efficiently. Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row.
    I woo women with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook Thirty-Minute Brownies in twenty minutes. I am an expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and an outlaw in Peru.
    Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of ferocious army ants. I play bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Mets, I am the subject of numerous documentaries. When I'm bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard. I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after school, I repair electrical appliances free of charge.
    I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst, and a ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy evening wear. I don't perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I receive fan mail. I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer, I toured New Jersey with a traveling centrifugal-force demonstration. I bat .400. My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany circles. Children trust me.
    I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick, and David Copperfield in one day and still had time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the exact location of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed several covert operations for the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a chair. While on vacation in Canada, I successfully negotiated with a group of terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to me.
    I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic, and my bills are all paid. On weekends, to let off steam, I participate in full-contact origami. Years ago, I discovered the meaning of life but forgot to write it down. I have made extraordinary four course meals using only a mouli and a toaster oven. I breed prizewinning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving competitions in Sri Lanka, and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis.
    But I have not yet gone to college.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    ^^^^^^^^

    Is that not fake arrogance rather than fake modesty? :confused::)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭silverspoon


    There's a diffence between being arrogant and obnoxious about yourself and just having an honest opinion that you are not too bothered about.

    You could be gorgeous and if someone asks how you would rate your looks just answer honestly and say you think you are gorgeous, but you wouldn't bring it up if no one asked.

    OK, well, I get where you're coming from, a difference between confidence in what you know are your good points and arrogance about it, or, at the other end of the spectrum, pretending you don't know what your good points are and letting on you don't think positively about these things.

    I don't really think it's that easy to answer 'yeah I'm gorgeous' to the question of how you'd rate your looks. Even if you're asked the question, and you'd never say it if you weren't, answering 'I'm gorgeous' isn't an easy thing to pull off saying without sounding kind of conceited.

    Obviously, it's nice to be confident in your looks/abilities/etc., but there are ways of saying things. I think most people recognise that to come out and say 'yeah I'm sex on legs' isn't something anyone wants to hear (though why ask I suppose), and it isn't something that necessarily reflects well on you. So the reaction is to play down all that stuff. I think it's an attempted form of politeness, all this denying of compliments.

    I just think the best thing is to thank someone for a compliment, enjoy it, but not really get into your own analysis of it to that person. Just be flattered, accept it, and move on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    I'm brilliant at riding............














































    .......horses :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    I know where my skills lie, and what I can be better at. If I am complimented on something, I just say 'cheers'...I don't know what else to say.

    who am i kidding, i dont get compliments.... :(


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