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Vintage/Classic

  • 29-03-2011 2:53am
    #1
    pappyodaniel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,855 ✭✭✭


    A few simple questions.

    1. How many years old does a car have to be to be considered vintage
    2. Same question as above but change vintage to classic

    and

    3. What is the tax/insurance/NCT situation on both categories of vehicle.


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  • #2
    toe_knee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭toe_knee


    Vintage is 30 years and classic is 25. I think the tax for vintage is 50.
    Classic tax is whatever your normal tax would be.

    Not sure about the insurance....might be something on this thread about it
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=221800


  • #3
    John Larkin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭John Larkin


    Antique: pre 1905
    Veteran: 1905-1918
    Vintage: 1919-1930
    Post Vintage: 1931 – 1945
    Classic 1946 onwards but at least thirty years old.
    The Irish government permits a vehicle over thirty years old to be taxed privately at a reduced rate, currently €48 per annum for vehicles with four or more wheels, and €22 per annum for three wheels or fewer. Insurance companies generally require a car to be at least thirty years old to qualify for cheaper insurance, although some may allow a lower age cut-off. Exemption from the NCT only applies to vehicles first registered prior to 1st January 1980 and then only if they are taxed privately, not commercially.


  • #4
    PaulK_CCI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭PaulK_CCI


    Spot on!

    It only gets confusing because the Irish government insists on calling the reduced tax benefits: "Vintage" tax...:D


  • #5
    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,913 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    pappyodaniel wrote: »
    A few simple questions.

    A few simple answers to the few simple questions can be found by reading the second sticky topic at the top of this forum "Classic Cars Charter, Info & Pics - please read before posting"


  • #6
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    John Larkin wrote: »
    Antique: pre 1905
    Veteran: 1905-1918
    Vintage: 1919-1930
    Post Vintage: 1931 – 1945
    Classic 1946 onwards but at least thirty years old.
    The Irish government permits a vehicle over thirty years old to be taxed privately at a reduced rate, currently €48 per annum for vehicles with four or more wheels, and €22 per annum for three wheels or fewer. Insurance companies generally require a car to be at least thirty years old to qualify for cheaper insurance, although some may allow a lower age cut-off. Exemption from the NCT only applies to vehicles first registered prior to 1st January 1980 and then only if they are taxed privately, not commercially.


    spot on info (except of course a Commercially taxed vehicle is presumably not going to come under the NCT anyway)


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  • #7
    John Larkin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭John Larkin


    corktina wrote: »
    spot on info (except of course a Commercially taxed vehicle is presumably not going to come under the NCT anyway)

    A vehicle that is over thirty years old and used for hire and reward (e.g. old Rolls Royce used as a wedding car) must do the NCT.


  • #8
    Tin Lizzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Tin Lizzy


    Antique: pre 1903
    Veteran: 1903-1910
    Vintage: 1910-1945
    Classic 1946 - 1979
    Retro 1980 to late 80's

    This is just my opinion..


  • #9
    John Larkin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭John Larkin


    Antique: pre 1905
    Veteran: 1905-1918
    Vintage: 1919-1930
    Post Vintage: 1931 – 1945
    Classic 1946 onwards but at least thirty years old.

    The ages listed here are as defined by FIVA and agreed with most national motor clubs worldwide. These definitions have legal standing in many countries.

    John Larkin


  • #10
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,749 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    pappyodaniel wrote: »
    A few simple questions.

    1. How many years old does a car have to be to be considered vintage
    2. Same question as above but change vintage to classic

    and

    3. What is the tax/insurance/NCT situation on both categories of vehicle.

    Ì'm going to go on the assumption you're looking at this from an insurance/tax point of view, to assess what to buy, and not some of the formal definitions, in which case......

    1. & 2. From an Irish motor tax perspective, there is no difference. There is simply an age: 30 years and over qualifies for 'classic' tax.

    3. Cars over 10 years old have to be NCT'd every year. Cars pre Jan 1 1980 don't have to do annual NCT, but they do have to have an NCT inspection if you're importing it, before you can register it.

    Also, certain marques are treated as 'classic' for insurance purposes, at different ages. Generally, it's the 20 yr rule. Except for Porsches and Merc Coupés - they get the benefit of 'classic' insurance at 15 years.

    Confused ? I know I am ! :p

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