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Salaries, Irl and Norn Irl

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Offy


    lol at the difference in salarys between Norn Irl (and uk also I assume)

    and Ireland.

    http://jobs.rte.ie/ForumWW/RTE/SalarySurveyRTE.aspx?SalarySurveyID=668&BannorID=&BZoneID=0&ParentID=75&CID=160

    no wonder the country is f**ed

    Does the cost of living enter the equasion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Use two different currency's for dramatics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Rodin


    Senna wrote: »
    Use two different currency's for dramatics.

    currency's?

    are you serious?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    Offy wrote: »
    Does the cost of living enter the equasion?

    umm, I am in Scotland, its not exactly cheap here, my rent is 450 snots a month.

    cost of living is bull ****, Ireland has driven itself to a early grave with insane salaries.


    the only good thing to come out of this is eegits taking out tsunami shattering loans on cars they cant afford and flog them for next to nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Sure I'd pick 450 snots in a week...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    umm, I am in Scotland, its not exactly cheap here, my rent is 450 snots a month.

    Heh, I pay €230 rent here in Ireland :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    The cost of living here is a hell of alot more expensive than the North.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    The cost of living here is a hell of alot more expensive than the North.

    Salarys for most main stream jobs in the uk are a lot less than Ireland,

    look at accounting jobs, 80k+ salarys lolz

    no wonder people turn down jobs paying 'just' 28k when they get that (and more) on welfare

    this is why people like myself have to get the f**k out of the place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Offy


    umm, I am in Scotland, its not exactly cheap here, my rent is 450 snots a month.

    cost of living is bull ****, Ireland has driven itself to a early grave with insane salaries.


    the only good thing to come out of this is eegits taking out tsunami shattering loans on cars they cant afford and flog them for next to nothing.

    Thats what you get for living in Scotland! Early grave? What? We're not dead just yet ;) I pay €400pm for a three year old four bed semi, thats 2/3's of a weeks income for me, sure I need the rest for beer, cigs and chicks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Offy


    Salarys for most main stream jobs in the uk are a lot less than Ireland,

    look at accounting jobs, 80k+ salarys lolz

    no wonder people turn down jobs paying 'just' 28k when they get that (and more) on welfare

    this is why people like myself have to get the f**k out of the place.

    oh stop moaning, you can go to Scotland if you like hehe


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    The cost of living here is a hell of alot more expensive than the North.

    Norn Irelands salarys also reflect pretty the same on the whole of the uk, give or take.

    so does that mean dublin is a hell lot more expensive than britain .:rolleyes:

    I somehow doubt it.... Lidl here is as dear as back in kerry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    Offy wrote: »
    oh stop moaning, you can go to Scotland if you like hehe

    Im just being realistic, that is all.

    And I am in Scotland, very relaxed place. people can drive also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Norn Irelands salarys also reflect pretty the same on the whole of the uk, give or take.

    so does that mean dublin is a hell lot more expensive than britain .:rolleyes:

    I somehow doubt it.... Lidl here is as dear as back in kerry.

    Fairly stupid to compare a capital city to a whole Nation, but since you asked.

    Dublin is more expensive to live in that some area's of Britain but cheaper to live in than others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    China is unreal low salaries, north Korea too. Why are these not on that list?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    ch750536 wrote: »
    China is unreal low salaries, north Korea too. Why are these not on that list?

    I dunno about China, but Norn Korea doesn't really have a ring to it.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ch750536 wrote: »
    China is unreal low salaries, north Korea too. Why are these not on that list?

    Alot or reasons... But since you asked the question, it means you wouldn't understand the answer.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Senna wrote: »
    Use two different currency's for dramatics.

    It does make it troublesome to get their point across... just checked what £55,000 is in euros...

    ...62,436.14


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    It does make it troublesome to get their point across... just checked what £55,000 is in euros...

    ...62,436.14

    It's 62,446.59 EUR now, incredible.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Fart wrote: »
    It's 62,446.59 EUR now, incredible.

    Jaysus... 9 minutes of inflation ey?

    :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    Fart wrote: »
    It's 62,446.59 EUR now, incredible.

    I think you're being ripped off.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    no wonder the country is f**ed

    Can we have a ban on this phrase please?

    This country is ****ed because of reckless bank lending due to bad regulation which was then made into public debt by the last government.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭theg81der


    Salarys for most main stream jobs in the uk are a lot less than Ireland,

    look at accounting jobs, 80k+ salarys lolz

    no wonder people turn down jobs paying 'just' 28k when they get that (and more) on welfare

    this is why people like myself have to get the f**k out of the place.

    I don`t believe this hype at all. Name me one person who I can verify has tured down a job for 28k. How exactly do they get 28k on welfare?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭theg81der


    I don`t agree with the figures presented on the table for Southern Ireland. I wonder if it is the city not the rest of the country doesn`t tally with my salary expectation and what others are being paid now, too high not low.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    theg81der wrote: »
    I don`t agree with the figures presented on the table for Southern Ireland. I wonder if it is the city not the rest of the country doesn`t tally with my salary expectation and what others are being paid now, too high not low.

    You went there... :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭positron


    ch750536 wrote: »
    China is unreal low salaries, north Korea too. Why are these not on that list?

    lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭dpe


    Its not exactly a like for like comparison. I'm sure the ROI jobs include Dublin, whereas NI wages are pretty much the lowest in the UK. If you compared Dublin to London you'd find those salary scales closer to parity or even in London's favour. Also don't forget that the pound is at an all-time low against the Euro, and it will take a long time for that change to wash through; its not so much Ireland over-valued, as the UK under-valued.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    I live in de England. Cost of living in a lot less. Despite the lower wages, you can make the money go further than at home if you're careful, so technically you end up with a little more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    The most noticeable thing in those stats is that the higher up the payscale you go, the bigger the differences. We are too accepting of inequality in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Thats because the price of living in NI isn't a complete joke.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    Can we have a ban on this phrase please?

    This country is ****ed because of reckless bank lending due to bad regulation which was then made into public debt by the last government.

    Can we have a ban on this phrase please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Renting a double room in Dublin city centre whilst on minimum wage would be next to impossible.

    Though very easily done in Belfast.

    You have to consider cost of living


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    theg81der wrote: »
    I don`t believe this hype at all. Name me one person who I can verify has tured down a job for 28k. How exactly do they get 28k on welfare?
    Quite easily with rent allowance childrens allowance lone parents allowance medical card etc.

    Its shocking imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    lol at the difference in salarys between Norn Irl (and the rest of the uk also I assume)

    and Ireland.

    Fixed that for you :rolleyes:

    Salaries vary greatly from one region of the UK to another, a 'standard' salary in Northern Ireland might differ greatly from a salary for the same job in the South of England.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    Can we have a ban on this phrase please?

    Why should we ban that phrase:
    the country is fcuked due to wreckless bank lending due to lack of regulation which was made public debt by the last government.

    Its so important to constantly remind people what FF did or did not do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭raymann


    people really need to understand there is a direct link between the high cost of living and the high salaries that are poisoning our economic prospects.

    it would be very hard and very unusual to achieve a society with our levels of pay and not have high prices, throughout the economy as a consequence.

    the germans understand this. they see any inflation as bad, price inflation, house price inflation even wage inflation. it takes a really intelligent population to understand this.


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  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why do people here have such a problem with people getting paid good money. Begrudgery, that's why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭raymann


    Why do people here have such a problem with people getting paid good money. Begrudgery, that's why.

    this is exactly the point i tried to make above. we cant have a low cost competitive economy that creates jobs while paying ourselves the huge salaries compared to the neighbours we are competing against.

    its not about a race to the bottom, its a realistic look at the world we live in. we are in a race though. we need to be lean and fit in order to compete. at the moment we are far, far from that.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    raymann wrote: »
    this is exactly the point i tried to make above. we cant have a low cost competitive economy that creates jobs while paying ourselves the huge salaries compared to the neighbours we are competing against.

    its not about a race to the bottom, its a realistic look at the world we live in. we are in a race though. we need to be lean and fit in order to compete. at the moment we are far, far from that.

    In certain area's anyway paying higher wages gives you the advantage of attracting the best people.

    In my area of work anyway my section is made up of a group which headed up by a number of people who moved here to work as they get paid about twice if not more than they were getting in the UK (where they are from).

    Their reputation and expertise has made a massive difference to the place and have has been key in growth and creating jobs.

    Also you need to look at the the salaries of people say working in finance in banking etc in London, even by people who dont have very high positions. It would dwarf wages here. I know a number of people living in london earning over £100,000, some well over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Salarys for most main stream jobs in the uk are a lot less than Ireland,

    look at accounting jobs, 80k+ salarys lolz

    no wonder people turn down jobs paying 'just' 28k when they get that (and more) on welfare

    this is why people like myself have to get the f**k out of the place.

    Are you in employment or are you just pis*ed off trying to get a job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Quite easily with rent allowance childrens allowance lone parents allowance medical card etc.

    Its shocking imo.

    So basically in a very small amount of cases people might get a lot of money on the Welfare while everyone else really just gets their 188 a week or 136 if they have been on it for more than a year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    Can we have a ban on this phrase please?

    This country is ****ed because of reckless bank lending due to bad regulation which was then made into public debt by the last government.

    not strictly true

    if you read beneath the lines you would see in or around the celtic era salaries boomed, house prices in kerry were more expensive than san francisco and that was f**k all to do with banks

    the salaries, as on the rte site are still pretty sick. I got nothing against a big salary, anyone who studies hard and has skills is worth it. but for a country the size of ireland, its way beyond our means.

    The banking crisis just compounded things and made it x 1000000 worse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Panrich wrote: »
    The most noticeable thing in those stats is that the higher up the payscale you go, the bigger the differences. We are too accepting of inequality in this country.

    As a species we are. you should see the inequality in other countries too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    You also get more net pay here because tax and PRSI are less than tax and NIC in the North, though the new social charge probably lessens the gap.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭sanbrafyffe


    i got offered work on a job in enniskillen.no way.id be getting more on the dole down south.the nordys can keep their crap wages


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭theg81der


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Quite easily with rent allowance childrens allowance lone parents allowance medical card etc.

    Its shocking imo.

    Sorry can I see your figures for that - me and my hubby are both out of work we`re getting 312e out of this we have to pay 75e mantainence for his daughter so we are receiving 12,324 per annum.

    We also have a medical card which he has never used and I use about once ever 2/3 months if that so that would be a gain of about 300e per annum.

    We own our own small 2 bed terraced house becuase silly us we paid of our small morgage instead of living it up during the good times, I worked 2 jobs but now somehow this is my fault and your going to begrudge me the small amount we have to live on?

    If we got a job offering 28k we would both grab it with both hands, we`re applying for job much lower waged than that including northern jobs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    The cost of living here is a hell of alot more expensive than the North.

    The basic income tax band is considerably wider in the UK too which means the only people paying top rate are those who can actually afford to.
    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Heh, I pay €230 rent here in Ireland :pac:

    Does your place have a crying chair ?


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