Value a 2.7l petrol 4x4 for me...

quenching

Anyone care to put a value on a well cared for '03 Hyundai Santa Fe 2.7l petrol automatic V6 with full leather and all the toys, mileage about 90k.

Is it likely to have a decent trade in value against another used Hyundai Santa Fe or Tuscon, a diesel one this time?

coolbeans

No, it's about attractive to the trade as a bulldog chewing a wasp. I can't think of anyone who'd buy it. Good luck.

Marcusm

This just proves the facile nature of the current extreme road tax based on emissions. I fully agree with the "polluter pays" principle but this is better collected through excise tax on fuel such that you pay by consumption rather than potential consumption. Also the favourable tax treatment of derv ignores the other pollutants. Don't disagree with the total tax collected, just the allocation.

alias no.9

Be prepared to be insulted, ignored or turned away. That thing is about as desirable as a dose of the clap.

Eric Cartman

nan even in diesel those old shape santa fes are hard enough to shift , they look a bit dated compared to other 4x4s of that age , but in V6 petrol you may have better luck exporting it to the UK or something, nobody over here will touch off that,

johnos1984

OP I know its not a direct comparison but my brother in law recently traded in a a merc 320CLK in good condition with full service history to Rathdown motors in Terenure.

It went in against a new SPORTAGE, we got scrappage for the car €1250 plus a discount. The total cost to change was circa 22k

You WILL be told your car is WORTH NOTHING but try and see who is offering the best cost to change.

It may in fact be cheaper to suck up the heavy cost of petrol and tax and just keep driving the car

Anan1

johnos1984 wrote: »

It may in fact be cheaper to suck up the heavy cost of petrol and tax and just keep driving the car

+1

Nissan doctor

IMO you have two choices with that car, try to sell it privatly for maybe 2-3g max or scrap it against a new Renault as they are the only ones offering scrappage on an 03 car afaik.

In the currect climate that car would have almost no resale value whatsoever for anyone taking it as a trade in.

unkel

Still a miracle to me why thousands and thousands of people here bought Hyundai Santa Fes? Sure the SUVs were a fad and many people were buying them, but why that Hyundai?

cojomo2

johnos1984 wrote: »

OP I know its not a direct comparison but my brother in law recently traded in a a merc 320CLK in good condition with full service history to Rathdown motors in Terenure.

It went in against a new SPORTAGE, we got scrappage for the car €1250 plus a discount. The total cost to change was circa 22k

You WILL be told your car is WORTH NOTHING but try and see who is offering the best cost to change.

It may in fact be cheaper to suck up the heavy cost of petrol and tax and just keep driving the car

1250? Did he look around? my bro just traded that exact model in (2000) agains a second hand car that was on the market for 5k and got 4050 euro for the merc

Max Power1

cojomo2 wrote: »

1250? Did he look around? my bro just traded that exact model in (2000) agains a second hand car that was on the market for 5k and got 4050 euro for the merc

I find that a bit hard to believe.

No dealer will exchange with a cost to change of 1 k on a 5 k sale! Unless he had a buyer lined up for the merc i call foul.

cojomo2

Max Power1 wrote: »

I find that a bit hard to believe.

No dealer will exchange with a cost to change of 1 k on a 5 k sale! Unless he had a buyer lined up for the merc i call foul.

Call it what you like, I was with him when the transaction was done, I assure you..i can link to his car, which the garage is now selling for 5,950.

colm_mcm

Cojomo:

Was it a clk or slk your brother had? What did he trade it in for?

Zubeneschamali

unkel wrote: »

but why that Hyundai?

Hyundai, Ssangyong, Kia all did better building 4x4s than cars for several years.

I think the reason was that if you put a Hyundai car from those years up against a car from a mainstream manufacturer, anyone could see that it was tat.

Their early 4x4 efforts were also tat, but most people buying 4x4s never went off road, didn't need a 4x4 and wouldn't know a good one if it ran over their foot.

They couldn't tell the difference between a good 4x4 and a bad one, they just knew they wanted one. So things like the Rexton and Santa Fe became a common sight.

Anan1

It's not out of the question that one 2000 CLK would fetch good money and another next to nothing.

Gophur

Nissan doctor wrote: »

IMO you have two choices with that car, try to sell it privatly for maybe 2-3g max or scrap it against a new Renault as they are the only ones offering scrappage on an 03 car afaik.

In the currect climate that car would have almost no resale value whatsoever for anyone taking it as a trade in.

Do people actually fall for that kind of Marketing? The only cars being "scrapped" are those eligible for Govt subsidy. Anything traded against such schemes as Renault are sold off to the trade.

If you're considering a Renault, then go with cash, you'll get the same, if not better, deal.

OP's car is virtually worthless. I'd ship it to the UK, if getting rid of it was absolutely necessary.

cojomo2

colm_mcm wrote: »

Cojomo:

Was it a clk or slk your brother had? What did he trade it in for?

was a clk320. this is the exact one:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/CLK-Class/CLK-320-/201111201668409/advert?channel=CARS&featuredListingClickThru=true

and he traded it for a car very similar to this:
http://www.loc.ie/viewanad.php?ad_id=635515

johnos1984

It was an IX35 he bought not a Sportage

I'll post this and no more as I don't want to go off topic

The IX35 was retailing at around 25500k, we got 1250 scrappage which was matched by Hyundais offer of 1250 so thats 3k off list. Then the dealer gave a further €1500 off the list price after haggling bringing it to circa 22k. Little haggling was required as the salesman offered the lowest price with little room for negotiation. I forgot we also didn't have to pay delivery costs, again it was all included in our haggling

So some people would assume he got a trade in of 4500 excluding what he got off for delivery etc. which wouldn't be true as we got scrappage, hyundai's offer and what we could negotiate off

It was almost 2k cheaper than a similar car at a hyundai dealer with no difference in spec level and they could offer immediate delivery. The salesman was honest and up front about his price. We had been to enough places to know he wasn't pulling a fast one.

It was talked about in a tread here already, yes it was a shame to scrap the car but the best offer was scrapping it at that price as he had no where to store it and had a couple of time wasters call to his door offering a packet of wriggleys and a wedge of cheese

colm_mcm

cojomo2 wrote: »

was a clk320. this is the exact one:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/CLK-Class/CLK-320-/201111201668409/advert?channel=CARS&featuredListingClickThru=true

and he traded it for a car very similar to this:
http://www.loc.ie/viewanad.php?ad_id=635515

That's fair enough, neither are worth anywhere near 5k so 950 to change from one to another isn't mad.

Raskolnikov

Bit of a theme developing on boards, a lot of folk creating threads about the difficulty of getting shot of a 2.0+ litre, high-spec petrol model vehicle. I suppose you could throw the thing up on donedeal, reduce the price by €200 every day, and once you start getting phone calls, you'll know you're at a reasonable price. Exporting it abroad might be another possibility, although the motor tax regime in the UK is only slightly less regressive than here.

I don't see the latest fad of export to the UK being an option, how does one go about doing that? Surely it's a humongous pain in the arse to find a buyer over there?? Unless there is someone buying such yokes up here and lashing them all on a car transporter I don't see how it's remotely feasible.

OP, donedeal it for €2500/€3000, someone might throw €2000+ at you for it. I wouldn't reduce the price by €200/day, that's terrible advice, it can take a few weeks to flog a car, that's why dealers offer people f all for them as they'll be waiting to recoup their cash. Still people out there that would prefer to run that Santa Fe than a newer car that's light on fuel and tax

Raskolnikov

RoverJames wrote: »

I don't see the latest fad of export to the UK being an option, how does one go about doing that? Surely it's a humongous pain in the arse to find a buyer over there?? Unless there is someone buying such yokes up here and lashing them all on a car transporter I don't see how it's remotely feasible.

OP, donedeal it for €2500/€3000, someone might throw €2000+ at you for it. I wouldn't reduce the price by €200/day, that's terrible advice, it can take a few weeks to flog a car, that's why dealers offer people f all for them as they'll be waiting to recoup their cash. Still people out there that would prefer to run that Santa Fe than a newer car that's light on fuel and tax

I never said they had to sell the thing, only costs 3 quid to put the car on donedeal and you have to know a realistic price that someone will pay before you can list a car. Also, Donedeal is filled with vultures, if the price is anyway reasonable, the car will be snapped up!

quenching

Thanks for all the advice offered. The car belongs to a friend of mine and we were discussing its value last week and both of us figured it would be hard to shift unless priced very cheaply. A shame as its in perfect condition and very well maintained, he may yet decide to keep it and live with the higher running costs over another few years as opposed to paying a similar amount upfront to change to something cheaper to run. At least he knows the history of this one rather than risking an unknown car. Listing it on Donedeal to find a price people are willing to pay is sound advice, I'll suggest this to him.

Nissan doctor

Gophur wrote: »

Do people actually fall for that kind of Marketing? The only cars being "scrapped" are those eligible for Govt subsidy. Anything traded against such schemes as Renault are sold off to the trade.

Renault call it scrappage, to joe soap puplic going to a renault dealer its called scrappage. I don't assume I'm speaking to people in the trade with every post...

jimmycrackcorm

I'd happily value it op but you'll just laugh at me.