State Exam Supervision

doc_17

Just wondering what people make of the selection process for the superintentents jobs in June.

Do people think it is fair to hire retired teachers? Especially when so many younger teachers (ie younger than retirement age) are applying for it?

My own feeling is that if you are retired then you are retired and shouldn't be allowed to pick up these nixers.

spurious

We had no retired people supervising in our school last year - haven't had for years.
Doesn't it ask on the form whether you are retired or not? It certainly does on the one for correctors.

From what I see, the main criterion seems to be whether you have done it (supervised or corrected) satisfactorily before.

Fizzical

doc_17 wrote: »

Just wondering what people make of the selection process for the superintentents jobs in June.

Do people think it is fair to hire retired teachers? Especially when so many younger teachers (ie younger than retirement age) are applying for it?

My own feeling is that if you are retired then you are retired and shouldn't be allowed to pick up these nixers.

1) Ageism
2) Illogical - hire the best people for the job
3) The job isn't a nixer - it's taxed

Why should teachers who have a full salary be give extra paid work over someone on half salary who is still a human being, has a right to work and has more experience?

That's if you're serious about 'younger than retirement age' and don't mean part-time teachers who have money troubles. The jobs are there to be done properly and not given out as charity... It is open competition, isn't it?

doc_17

Fizzical wrote: »

1) Ageism
2) Illogical - hire the best people for the job
3) The job isn't a nixer - it's taxed

Why should teachers who have a full salary be give extra paid work over someone on half salary who is still a human being, has a right to work and has more experience?

That's if you're serious about 'younger than retirement age' and don't mean part-time teachers who have money troubles. The jobs are there to be done properly and not given out as charity... It is open competition, isn't it?

1 - Definitley not.

2 - How is it logical to continue to hire people who have left the profession? Or continue to hand them the job just because they always got it? How does that make them the best for the job? Lets face it - it's not rocket science...and anyone who has done it (including me) will testify to that.

3 - Yes it is - misuse of the word nixer. profound apologies!!!

It is definitley not open competition - from what I've heard you either have to be teaching 21 years or just in the door to be awarded the position so how is that "open competition"?

Anyway...most people seem happy enough that it's mostly very experienced teachers (A and B posts etc or 20-30 years teaching) that get these jobs.

I wouldd give it non-permanent/CID staff. Think how long (and how much) this group will be paying the pension levy compared to others.

Fizzical

Open competition means open to everyone. You may be right about the criteria used to pick the successful applicant, I wouldn't know. These criteria are decided by the employer, not the applicants. I assume they have something to do with ability to do the job.

And of course it's ageist. How many young retired teachers do you know of? And how many old CID holders do you know? Your post reeks of 'you're finished, over the hill, get out of our sight' and 'dog-in-the-manger' attitude.

Retired teachers are not the cause of many young teachers having part-time insecure jobs. That came as the result of the Part-time workers Act from Europe and the use the management bodies decided to make of it.

Retired teachers are people and have the same rights to supplement their income as you.

doc_17

Yeah I agree with none of what you said there. If they are so hard u for cash they shouldn't have retired.