35mm in terms of movies ...

the_monkey

Hi,
I presume 35mm in terms of movies means as it is shown in the original
cinema version that used 35mm film reels?

I ask cos I am going to a special showing of Totall Recall and Aliens
and it says "35mm" as part of the promo poster.

When these films are transferred to bluray/DVD what do they use ? surely the same dims?

sarah+1

It means that they're not showing it digitally, it's the original 35mm reel being projected on the night.

Sad Professor

Yeah, it means they have a 35mm print and aren't just projecting a DVD (like some places do with classic films). It's sad that cinemas now have to clarify this.

bnt

It tells you about the format used for projection, and that's it. It doesn't tell you about how it was filmed, or the format used for other transfers. For example, The Dark Knight was filmed on a mix of 35mm and IMAX (65mm), most projection prints were 35mm (with a few IMAX prints), but I have no idea what they used in the digital transfer process.

mike65

Totall Recall and Aliens were both shot in Super 35 so I guess thats the selling point, mind you some reckon that was not a thing to be glad about ("too flat/hard image")

Sad Professor

mike65 wrote: »

Totall Recall and Aliens were both shot in Super 35 so I guess thats the selling point, mind you some reckon that was not a thing to be glad about ("too flat/hard image")

Super 35 is just a format though. It uses the same 35mm film stock as a film shot in anamorphic or in flat 1.85:1, it just uses more of it. I don't know about Total Recall, but Aliens definitely wasn't Super 35, although most of Cameron's subsequent films were.

Butch Cassidy

Sad Professor wrote: »

Yeah, it means they have a 35mm print and aren't just projecting a DVD (like some places do with classic films). It's sad that cinemas now have to clarify this.

Agreed, tis sad indeed. I was very excited when I saw the IFI were showing Jaws but my heart sank when I saw it was merely a blu-ray presentation. How that is I don't know since it's not been released on blueray.

I can see a time shortly (if it hasn't happened already) where people remember fondly the days you saw a film em, on film similar to how vinyl's had a resurgence.

I saw True Grit projected digitally recently and thought it was quite a poor presentation, it looked soft and out of focus. A lense issue perhaps but Spielberg agrees a film shot on film transfered to digital is an inferior picture as compared with a film shot on film projected with a film presentation.

It's all mainly about money - 35mm prints cost lots to transport as they are heavy whereas a disc obviously doesn't cost as much and yet the prices haven't halved.

@ the_monkey, where are the screenings? I'd love to go see either or both of those films.

Magic Eight Ball

bnt wrote: »

It tells you about the format used for projection, and that's it. It doesn't tell you about how it was filmed, or the format used for other transfers. For example, The Dark Knight was filmed on a mix of 35mm and IMAX (65mm), most projection prints were 35mm (with a few IMAX prints), but I have no idea what they used in the digital transfer process.

IMAX is 70mm. :pac:

jaykhunter

what is the best picture quality cinema in dublin? Whenever I go i'm depressed at the low-deffedness and it puts me off going, when i could just wait a few months and see it in my house in HD....

mikhail

Butch Cassidy wrote: »

It's all mainly about money - 35mm prints cost lots to transport as they are heavy whereas a disc obviously doesn't cost as much and yet the prices haven't halved.

You try leasing a property in Dublin, fitting it out as a cinema, paying ushers, cleaners, projectionists, ticket and snack sellers and management, paying electricity, heating, insurance, tax, and the distributor's (enormous) cut of the ticket prices. You try doing it for a fiver. If you can, you'll run the most popular cinema in Dublin. Go on, try it.

the_monkey

Butch Cassidy wrote: »

@ the_monkey, where are the screenings? I'd love to go see either or both of those films.

Barcelona! , I just saw it by accident when walking down the street,
and popped in and got 2 tickets - bargain at €8 each.
- and it is in English, I made sure it wasn't dubbed.


http://www.tresc.cat/fitxa/cinema/19700/Phenomena-Desafio-Total--Aliens-el-regreso

Butch Cassidy

mikhail wrote: »

You try leasing a property in Dublin, fitting it out as a cinema, paying ushers, cleaners, projectionists, ticket and snack sellers and management, paying electricity, heating, insurance, tax, and the distributor's (enormous) cut of the ticket prices. You try doing it for a fiver. If you can, you'll run the most popular cinema in Dublin. Go on, try it.

I don't expect a 35mm projected film for a fiver, I'll pay the going rate. Charging the same price for an inferior product/service ie. projecting a DVD is the type of money spinner only the cinema industry could dream up. This, the business where a 20quid bag of kernels brings in hundreds.

This, also the industry based on a production model to accumulate capital by selling low-rate products (junk films).

If projecting digitally subsidises a market where I can see 2001: A Space Odyssey or Seventh Seal on film then great.

Renn

Little bit off topic here but you know how everyone goes on about cinemas making their money from food sales etc...how do places like the IFI make a profit if that's the case? Hardly including the restaurant in this are they?

Sad Professor

The IFI is funded by the state. I'm sure the restaurant is included. But it's non-profit, so afaik any that it does make just goes to the Irish Film Archive.

Butch Cassidy

Renn wrote: »

Little bit off topic here but you know how everyone goes on about cinemas making their money from food sales etc...how do places like the IFI make a profit if that's the case? Hardly including the restaurant in this are they?

Multiplexes usually have more than a dozen screens and largely show low-rate low-art studio pictures churned out endlessly. IFI has only two or three screens and aims for quality not quantity. They don't have as many staff and overheads as a large multiplex plus their goal is not to maximise profits for shareholders. This together with what Sad Professor sums it up I think.


I don't think the Savoy on O'Connell St. rely that heavily on their concession stand which by comparisson to the other large cinema in town is relatively small.