Shells for Charlie

12gaugedave

Well everyone,
Im looking for a bit of advice,
I want to know whats the best shotgun load for foxes,
Was out sunday on a few baits with the club but all i had with me were 34g 4s. There just not enough.
What i want is something that will give a humain kill out as far as possible.
I assume BBs but what brand and weight,
My gun is o/u with full chokes and can take a 3" shell
Any advice would be helpfull
Cheers
Dave

kemen

i find Eley Alphamax BB 42gr the best, i also use noble 2s which is good shell. myself an another lad got a box of hull BB each and couldnt hit a thing seemed very slow! from what the semi auto lads say magnum shells are pretty hard hitting

Longranger

kemen wrote: »

i find Eley Alphamax BB 42gr the best, i also use noble 2s which is good shell. myself an another lad got a box of hull BB each and couldnt hit a thing seemed very slow! from what the semi auto lads say magnum shells are pretty hard hitting

Eley alphamax magnum 46g BB. Absolute top shell for charlie imo. I've been using them for ages and have never had to take a second shot to finish off a fox! Also,at 15 quid for a box of 25 they're not bad value either...

johngalway

36 gram BB's, limit range to 40 yards or so, shoot him side on, dead is dead.

pugw

IMO I always found 2's good for driven hunting, or maybe a 3 in the 1st barrel and a 0 in the top! BB's are fairly severe on the jaw from my o/u so would only really use dem if lamping when you would really be expecting a 1 shot kill whereas by day you would almost aways need a second shot at a running target!

cavan shooter

Alphamax AAA, they dont move after that

12gaugedave

Longranger wrote: »

Eley alphamax magnum 46g BB. Absolute top shell for charlie imo. I've been using them for ages and have never had to take a second shot to finish off a fox! Also,at 15 quid for a box of 25 they're not bad value either...

Thats what i was thinkin, only thing is i dont no if my yildiz shotgun would be able for magnum shells???:eek:

Longranger

12gaugedave wrote: »

Thats what i was thinkin, only thing is i dont no if my yildiz shotgun would be able for magnum shells???:eek:

If it has a 3" chamber you'll be sound. Get yourself a box and enjoy! :-)

12gaugedave

Longranger wrote: »

If it has a 3" chamber you'll be sound. Get yourself a box and enjoy! :-)

Ill enjoy, my shoulder might not though:D
Kicks like a horse with even 34g 5s so BBs could kill me.
Wont be shooting big amounts of them anyway id say 50 shells would do the year.
Thanks for the advice.

Longranger

12gaugedave wrote: »

Ill enjoy, my shoulder might not though:D
Kicks like a horse with even 34g 5s so BBs could kill me.
Wont be shooting big amounts of them anyway id say 50 shells would do the year.
Thanks for the advice.

Anytime bud, oh, I remember the first time I fired a magnum. It was a 56g 0 and I had to walk across two fields to get my collarbone back! :-)

Grizzly 45

Winchester XX 00 or 000.When it positively absolutely has to be killed!:D

tfox

I used to use Nobel Sport 00 when I jad my pump action, now that I have my grandfather's AYA I dont dare put them down it

Need to get myself a cheap auto for pigeon and foxes :rolleyes:

landkeeper

ha 00 and 000 jesus lads it's a 20lb mammal i'd hate to see what you'd use on anything bigger :cool:

tfox

Well have knocked with 20bore no.6 before

johngalway

If there are medical students reading this thread, they're going to start specializing in shoulder surgery. I have used big loads, but there's no need for them, especially in a gun that's going to make you feel every gram. Larger pellets will have larger holes in their patterns and will reduce your effective range/result in a wounding. In my experience BB's or just slightly below in size, are just the job. Handy recoil, good range, good pattern.

You can fire a scud missile at a fox, but if it doesn't hit him... You can throw pebbles at him and they'll bounce off.

Compromise, and get the best cart to do the job right.

Dai John

Mod note:

Tampering with ammunition is not legal - Please read our charter.

Longranger

Dai John wrote: »

Mod note:

Tampering with ammunition is not legal - Please read our charter.

Who's tampering with ammo??

johngalway

Longranger wrote: »

Who's tampering with ammo??

The material in question has been edited out of the above post.

Back on topic again please

kemen

12gaugedave wrote: »

Ill enjoy, my shoulder might not though:D
Kicks like a horse with even 34g 5s so BBs could kill me.
Wont be shooting big amounts of them anyway id say 50 shells would do the year.
Thanks for the advice.

50 for the year!! you must have a serious problem or do u lamp with a shotgun?

ormondprop

both my gun and my fathers are only 2 3/4 so he uses 36gr eley alphamax bb's but my gun is old so i dont like using them
http://www.eleyhawkltd.com/gamecarts-alphamax.html
i was using 32 or 34gr eley bb's cant remember what they were but they were in a maroon cartridge,
these could be them http://www.eleyhawkltd.com/gamecarts-maximum.html and found them good but havent seen them lately
at the moment i'm using 34gram saga 1's
http://www.saga.es/angles/home.html

12gaugedave

kemen wrote: »

50 for the year!! you must have a serious problem or do u lamp with a shotgun?

No problem, just the baits seem to be riddled with foxes this year,
We got 27 in the last 6 sundays.
Better to have them than want them!!!

Longranger

johngalway wrote: »

The material in question has been edited out of the above post.

Back on topic again please

sorry john, i didn't notice anything so i was worried that i said something arseways:) i would NEVER be thick enough to tamper with ammo.

kemen

12gaugedave wrote: »

No problem, just the baits seem to be riddled with foxes this year,
We got 27 in the last 6 sundays.
Better to have them than want them!!!

thats not bad... you's must have a small army! what size is your pack?

12gaugedave

kemen wrote: »

thats not bad... you's must have a small army! what size is your pack?

Normal week we have 6 guns and about 8 baiters.
We have 11 beagles and 4 terriers.
Alot of baits are long and narrow which makes it easier,
we had 4 foxes run from the one bait last week thats the reason i was askin about shells coz i missed my one:mad: but the fool turned the wrong way and up to another gun who nailed him:D

12gaugedave

Decided to get some Alpamax Magnum 42g BB's.
Savage shell. Went out today to a bait, just at the end of the bait out comes a big vixen over the bank, she saw me and took off, About 25/30 yards out i let fly, i might as well have hit her with the jeep.
She must have flipped 3 times.
Happy now.
Cheers for the advice lads.

landkeeper

beaters and beats lad surely
some anti pillock will find your posts and all of a sudden it'll be badger baiting again in the news

lee70

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12gaugedave

landkeeper wrote: »

beaters and beats lad surely
some anti pillock will find your posts and all of a sudden it'll be badger baiting again in the news

Might be a bit more polite alright, what else would ya call it, fox culling maybe:D

DJandDeid

12gaugedave wrote: »

Might be a bit more polite alright, what else would ya call it, fox culling maybe:D

Not for politeness Dave, but accuracy. 'bait' being something to lure and 'beat' being what is done to drive out your quarry. But I have to say I did get what you meant.

12gaugedave

DJandDeid wrote: »

Not for politeness Dave, but accuracy. 'bait' being something to lure and 'beat' being what is done to drive out your quarry. But I have to say I did get what you meant.

Sorry, Just spelled it the way i say it. Midlands man:D