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Liability waiver form for childcare

  • 22-03-2011 7:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭


    Mod: If more suited to Legal Discussion please feel free to move.

    Starting an after-school childcare club for kids whose older siblings get out of school an hour later. It will be manned by parents on a rota basis and voluntary.

    I've found loads of links to US liability waiver forms but nothing for Ireland/UK that we can use. Does anyone here know of one we can use?


Comments

  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,019 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    I would give the local childcare committee a call


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    This is run in our school by parents. The school is not responsible for parent run after school activities. As far as I know there were no waivers signed by anyone.

    I'll check with the chairperson of the PA - she'll be home in an hour :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭ellee


    Liability waiver forms for what?

    Sounds serious enough and US forms won't work here.

    To be honest, you need a solicitor to advise you as the courts tend to interpret those sort of things very much against the persons trying to rely on them.

    You need to talk to your insurance people too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Macros42 wrote: »
    This is run in our school by parents. The school is not responsible for parent run after school activities. As far as I know there were no waivers signed by anyone.

    I'll check with the chairperson of the PA - she'll be home in an hour :D

    Thank you. We're not allowed to run it in the school unfortunately. One of the parents has offered us a room in their house across from the school.

    I have public liability cover in a professional capacity but I don't think it covers me outside of work. So I want the waiver forms to cover the parent who owns the room and the parents who will be minding the kids. If you're going to do it proper, do it proper!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    It's basically a homework club you're running and personally I think a waiver would be overkill. I'd be curious why you can't have it in the school - I know of a few schools who allow something similar - albeit the school disclaims any responsibility over and above public liability. School insurance covers for BoM approved after school activities as long as all people concerned are children or parents of the school. i.e. no third party child care professional. There's no waiver in our school - it's all parent run. There's a parents room put aside and it's used for that purpose for that hour.

    But to stay on topic I don't think you're going to get an answer to your question here. I'm moving this to Legal Discussion where someone may be able to help you further.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Macros42 wrote: »
    I'd be curious why you can't have it in the school

    Because our Head Teacher is nuts and wants nothing to do with us meddling parents! Her one and only concern is the kids. We have no say in the school whatsoever, no PTA etc.

    It's a great school though and most of us knew the score before we sent our kids there. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭carolinespring


    I really would get legal advice. If you are planning on having the after school in a parents home. You need to have insurance sorted out even if it is a unpaid service. Also written agreements from the parents who use the service, medical, emergency contacts etc. Plus all the "staff" need to be garda vetted and first aid trained. Check it out carefull before you start and PM me if you have any question or want more information.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    Garda vetting is not going to happen. The vetting unit only accepts requests from recognised organisations - not parents looking after each other's children. Also there are no staff - it's parents having a babysitting club. When you get a babysitter for your child and do you get her garda vetted? Or if your child goes on a sleepover in a friend's house would you sign a waiver indemnifying the friend's parents? tbh I'd be very concerned if I was asked to sign a waiver in that case. Same goes for insurance. This is not a professional service. No insurance company will cover it anyway.

    @OP: Form a PA. IIRC a PA is mandatory not optional - I'll check that for you. You don't need teachers - our school has a PA not a PTA but it also has a good relationship with the staff. Also there should be two parent's reps on the Board of Management - get them involved too. If there aren't two parent's reps on the BoM who are not elected by the parents then the school is in breach of DES regulations and that should be addressed.

    This principal needs to be put in her box imo. This activity is one that should take place on school premises. To have it elsewhere is nonsensical. The staff do not need to be involved - you just need a room to do it in and let the parents run it. I'll dig out the relevant clauses from the standard school insurance policies and the DES regulations tomorrow and PM them to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Thanks Macros.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    No probs. I've sent a couple of mails to get the insurance details - I thought I had them handy but can't put my finger on them. I'll get back to you asap.


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