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is the recession an excuse for employers

  • 22-03-2011 11:24am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mr con29


    hi i have been working in the catering trade since i was 15 i recently got a job which is great dont get me wrong its great but it pays only 370 a week my last job paid 600 a week but that was for an average 70 hours a week and all weekends oh and they fiddled the clock in system so i lost all the over time and holidays i know these places are doing well but they are all saying they cant afford to pay im a chef so i dont get tips im also 29 and have worked in a few very good places all around the country


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,184 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    mr con29 wrote: »
    hi i have been working in the catering trade since i was 15 i recently got a job which is great dont get me wrong its great but it pays only 370 a week my last job paid 600 a week but that was for an average 70 hours a week and all weekends oh and they fiddled the clock in system so i lost all the over time and holidays i know these places are doing well but they are all saying they cant afford to pay im a chef so i dont get tips im also 29 and have worked in a few very good places all around the country

    You havent really said what your new hours are here, so its quite hard to comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭who what when


    Yes its an employers market. But if your food is prepared as poorly as that post was puncuated, then you dont really deserve any more than €370 a week!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭bobbytables


    Feck sake OP I nearly passed out reading that. It has to be longest sentence ever!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mr con29


    and you do what for a living


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mr con29


    listermint wrote: »
    You havent really said what your new hours are here, so its quite hard to comment.

    they told me it 45 hours a week


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mr con29


    Yes its an employers market. But if your food is prepared as poorly as that post was puncuated, then you dont really deserve any more than €370 a week!

    what is your problem


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    mr con29 wrote: »
    what is your problem

    What is your problem?

    Every time you use English incorrectly someone on the internet will comment on it. Its an internet law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Works out at about 8.2 euro a hour which is above minimum wage. Since we live in a capitalist market op you have a few choices.

    1- Ask for more money

    2- Don't ask for more money

    3- Leave

    And yes, in your current field as a chef the market has bottomed out badly. So it is a employers market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,436 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Lads .. be nice. The OP's a chef, not an English teacher, you could get the drift of his/her post, and there's no txt-spk.
    /moderation



    OP, yes, the recession is being used as an excuse to take the piss by some employers. In the same way that some employees did when times were good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,436 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Denerick wrote: »
    Every time you use English incorrectly someone on the internet will comment on it. It's an internet law.

    And those who live in glass houses ...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    I AM AN EMPLOYER ... have 1 lad working for me he gets €450 home which costs me €593 per week ... i have put him on a 3 day week from this week he now hets €288 a week and i pay €25 to the tax man , how do you think this recession is an excuse for employers , its an excuse to cripple us more like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭sealgaire


    mr con29 wrote: »
    and you do what for a living


    Secondary school English teacher :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭amen


    Secondary school English teacher

    Missing the full stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,626 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    whelan1 wrote: »
    I AM AN EMPLOYER ... have 1 lad working for me he gets €450 home which costs me €593 per week ... i have put him on a 3 day week from this week he now hets €288 a week and i pay €25 to the tax man , how do you think this recession is an excuse for employers , its an excuse to cripple us more like

    I Agree with that, I would say like England, 90% of the jobs created in the last years have been part-time for that reason. Why wouldn't you for a tax saving like that.

    OP, yes I think places are taking the pi55 but its like it was years ago when I worked in hotels, I robbed any shifts going, if someone was out sick, I was there. Then I was always called in if it got busy in any section as they knew I'd turn up (sober). Then I could pick my hours and department.

    I know you wont work in any other section and I don't think you should have to work more than 45 hrs per week but sell yourself and make yourself in-dispensable.

    Can you add something new to the menu?
    Can you Do a sampling menu?
    Can you train one of your guys to make something that's currently bought in?
    Or offer to do crubeans in the bar at lunch time!!




  • Yes. I've noticed that employers in all the fields I work in are completely taking the p*ss. Quitting isn't an option for people with rent and bills to pay and asking for more money is often pointless, so they are free to take advantage, knowing that you have no other options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    Oh yes big time since the aul recession began certain employers have been rubbing it in were as others in the same business are still paying their employees the same amount,I know because I've seen it happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Feck sake OP I nearly passed out reading that. It has to be longest sentence ever!!

    Excuse me, but that title belongs to me and I'm proud of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Without doubt there are employers taking advantage.

    Corporation I worked for pissed away millions and millions on some IT project which has as much chance of working succusfully as PPARS or evoting. It's years late at this stage and tbh, the system in place was fine.

    Overtime slashed for staff and then you see your managing director get a limo from Dublin Airport to the IFSC :rolleyes:

    But of course we got the "business needs" speech and lots of staff got let go and then with the understaffing I got my username
    Glad to be out of the place


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 shellbyville


    mr con29 wrote: »
    what is your problem
    Some people are knobs, probably a boss also!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    One only has to look at Aer Lingus to see how far an employer is going to go to milk this recession.

    It made many redundant, and then hired them back as 'self employed' :eek:


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