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Air force plane down in Libya

  • 22-03-2011 10:43am
    #1
    SNAKEDOC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭


    watched the news a few seconds ago it said that a US jet had went down with mechanical failure over Libya and the crew were with rebels. Wonder what plane it was. anybody know more info can't find any on line. Bad news for the allies surprised gadaffi wasn't chanting that he shot it down


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  • #2
    SNAKEDOC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭SNAKEDOC


    Us f15E Eagle down. one crew member accounted for another still to be recovered.


  • #3
    cyrusdvirus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    It was equipment failure, both crew rescued

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056215854


  • #4
    cc4life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭cc4life


    there is a good chance it could have been shot down. The Americans and British often use that excuse when they have one shot down


  • #5
    cyrusdvirus
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    It may have suffered combat damage and been able to get closer to the coast, before suffering further failure (related to the damage) but the fact that both crew were picked up relatively quickly and safely, suggests to me that they knew they were going down and managed to get back to a relative safe zone.


  • #6
    Foggy43
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    cc4life wrote: »
    there is a good chance it could have been shot down. The Americans and British often use that excuse when they have one shot down

    Yes it could have been. You need to treat all press releases from whatever side as a possible propaganda exercise.


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  • #7
    cyrusdvirus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    Foggy43 wrote: »
    Yes it could have been. You need to treat all press releases from whatever side as a possible propaganda exercise.

    I would've thought at this stage the Libyans would be claiming the shoot down. Haven't heard anything yet though.


  • #8
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Sky news 'confirming' that 1 crew member back onboard USS Kearsage while other with the rebels and extraction to happen very soon.

    Sky shows TV feed of local standing on the burnt aircraft. Tail marking are LN on the tail so its one of the F15Es from RAF Lakenheath.


  • #9
    N7777G
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭N7777G


    the actual aircraft that went down is F-15E 91-0304 (based at Lakenheath)

    seen here last summer .....

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/eigjb/4669578087/


  • #10
    Steyr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    cc4life wrote: »
    there is a good chance it could have been shot down. The Americans and British often use that excuse when they have one shot down

    F-15E "MudHen" from RAF Lakenheath, going by the F-15's life service and the fact the "E" Model is tough as nails and can land with just one wing I would find it hard to have seen her being brought down by ack ack fire.


  • #11
    muppet01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭muppet01


    Steyr wrote: »
    F-15E "MudHen" from RAF Lakenheath, going by the F-15's life service and the fact the "E" Model is tough as nails and can land with just one wing I would find it hard to have seen her being brought down by ack ack fire.

    a bit like our 172's...:D


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  • #12
    mayotom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭mayotom


    ah we can be pretty sure it was shot down, usual propaganda from US/UK


  • #13
    BostonB
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    Maybe it was hit. But in general more aircraft are lost through failures or accidents than combat damage. Does it really matter? I though it was strange they left parts of sidewinders on it. I thought they'd have destroyed it.


  • #14
    Steyr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    mayotom wrote: »
    ah we can be pretty sure it was shot down, usual propaganda from US/UK

    That is total BS if she was shot down Pro Gadaffi Forces would have been hailing it as a huge victory and a warning to the West about the NFZ, since she was shot Gadaffi has been on TV and not a word was said or claimed.

    I wonder if your forgetting all that is left of Gadaffi's anti air is ACK ACK fire no missiles, the F-15E flies higher than ACK ACK when bombing.


  • #15
    Steyr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    I was looking more into this and it seems as though the F-15e went into an almost flat spin like she dropped directly out of the sky there is no horizontal impact, no indication of her being hit or shot at eg a huge crater on impact like the MiG the other day, also F-15's were grounded due to mechanical/Tech issues not too long ago ( they broke up in flight ).


    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-f156nov06,1,6807945.story


  • #16
    Steyr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    769B98A6170C45ED9DFF144DA5AE2395-0000336624-0002231216-00623L-BFC82F2A9ABF4CB4A544D517E029FE2C.bmp

    This picture taken early evening on March 21, 2011 shows the US F-15 jet which crashed in Libya as it prepares to take off for its mission from Aviano air base in Italy

    Picture: AFP/GETTY



    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/8397634/Libyan-residents-discover-wreckage-of-US-plane.html?image=5


  • #17
    Run_to_da_hills
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    mayotom wrote: »
    ah we can be pretty sure it was shot down, usual propaganda from US/UK
    Not if the planes black box and flight recorder proves different. :p


  • #18
    Growler!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Growler!!!


    Would some of the Rebels have recognised the F15 for what it was? Or mistaken a twin engined, twin tailed jet for one of Gaddaffi's Migs?

    As for Ack Ack or AAA, the gunner only needs to be lucky once. The pilot needs his luck all the time:D.


  • #19
    cyrusdvirus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    One thing with triple A is that the height that a lot of people talk about (not saying that peeps on this site are among them) it being effective would be the height that the aiming/tracking still kinda works. A bullet/shell travelling in a ballistic arc might only be capable of being aimed up to eg 5000 ft, but could travel an extra 2500 ft on it's upward trajectory..... and then back down again too


  • #20
    SNAKEDOC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭SNAKEDOC


    I don't think it was shot down. if it was i think gadaffi would be shouting about it on the telly. remember the apache in Iraq also if the jet was brought down there would have been more activity with SAR and such if the pilots had to eject all of a sudden. the jet flew on bore a bail out which means it wasn't a sudden thing and the pilots were picked up quickly. i think they would have said if it was a shoot down


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