Sin Cara/Mistico

Cianan2 · 22-03-2011 4:20am #1

Hey guys, so in the Raw thread someone mentioned that No Face has worked dark matches for Raw already - any idea when his debut will be?

I know nothing of his past work, but have seen his finisher which is awesome (fingers crossed the WWE allow him to keep it!). Does anybody have any youtube links to his best matches??

drayme · 22-03-2011 4:26am

He will debut in ring after Wrestlemania.

Just Youtube any Mistico vs Averno matches also there are millions of highlight videos of him.

jaykhunter · 22-03-2011 10:44pm

drayme wrote: »

He will debut in ring after Wrestlemania.

Ya, put me down for the day after Mania. Maybe on SD so ~4 days after mania lol.

Back in the day you'd always have someone debuting the day after Mania (2002 Brock, 2003 Goldberg....)

cian68 · 22-03-2011 10:55pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Ya, put me down for the day after Mania. Maybe on SD so ~4 days after mania lol.

Back in the day you'd always have someone debuting the day after Mania (2002 Brock, 2003 Goldberg....)

and umaga as far as I remember, and the great kahli the smackdown after mania.

jaykhunter · 22-03-2011 11:02pm

cian68 wrote: »

and umaga as far as I remember, and the great kahli the smackdown after mania.

Very good!

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gimmick · 22-03-2011 11:07pm

I loved Brocks debut. He just looked so big and angry.

Diabhal Beag · 22-03-2011 11:11pm

Must give WWE credit for building him up so well.

gimmick · 22-03-2011 11:32pm

Great video packages before an initial debut are generally a curse though.

I seem to remember Ultimo Dragon had a similar good build up and he never amounted to anything in WWE. Similar to a re packaged Sean O Haire. Poor Ol Waylon Mercy long time back as well.

I am sure there are a few more, and of course a few which will defeat the point.

jaykhunter · 22-03-2011 11:37pm

gimmick wrote: »

Poor Ol Waylon Mercy long time back as well.

That was bloody gold. He did look like Paul Heyman in white tho! At some point I'm gonna have to create a character along those lines. And Sean o'Haire's Devil's Advocate too. :pac:

Back to Sin Cara, his promos have been extremely simple, showcasing some fantastic high spots, but slowing them down so you can see them, and gradually adding more colour to the vignettes (started as mostly black, adding a lot more blue and gold) ........i'm well impressed with these vignettes.

TNA would never hold off something like this, it's far too slow, grandiose and simple!

Diabhal Beag · 22-03-2011 11:42pm

gimmick wrote: »

Great video packages before an initial debut are generally a curse though.

I seem to remember Ultimo Dragon had a similar good build up and he never amounted to anything in WWE. Similar to a re packaged Sean O Haire. Poor Ol Waylon Mercy long time back as well.

I am sure there are a few more, and of course a few which will defeat the point.

Just due to the huge Mexican interest there's no way they can **** this up. They have probably the biggest name coming out of Lucha Libre for at least 5 years.

jaykhunter · 22-03-2011 11:44pm

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Just due to the huge Mexican interest there's no way they can **** this up. They have probably the biggest name coming out of Lucha Libre for at least 5 years.

Famous last words lol

Diabhal Beag · 22-03-2011 11:50pm

Possibly but I'd say he won't fare too badly

parker kent · 22-03-2011 11:57pm

They did, relatively speaking, balls up Goldberg. Anybody coming from outside McMahon-land must always be wary of what's going to happen them.

Headshot · 23-03-2011 12:06am

Im worried wwe will make a ****ing shambles of this

Now I think he would be better off in TNA even with the ****e that goes on there

parker kent · 23-03-2011 12:19am

Headshot wrote: »

Im worried wwe will make a ****ing shambles of this

Now I think he would be better off in TNA even with the ****e that goes on there

Is that a typo for not?! I hope so!

flahavaj · 23-03-2011 12:19am

Headshot wrote: »

Im worried wwe will make a ****ing shambles of this

Now I think he would be better off in TNA even with the ****e that goes on there

That would be the equivalent of Waterford United signing Chicharito. He deserves to be watched by more than just one man and his dog.:pac:

I think WWE will handle Mistico well. They did an absolutely brilliant job with Mysterio in fairness, far better than anyone could have hoped at the time.

Headshot · 23-03-2011 12:26am

parker kent wrote: »

Is that a typo for not?! I hope so!

Nope. I know its crazy but the x division (even thou its not what it use to be) would be ideal for Sin

flahavaj wrote: »

That would be the equivalent of Waterford United signing Chicharito. He deserves to be watched by more than just one man and his dog.:pac:

I think WWE will handle Mistico well. They did an absolutely brilliant job with Mysterio in fairness, far better than anyone could have hoped at the time.

The likes of Kaval **** up has me worried tbh. That's a few years ago with Ray came btw bai

and came when times were good

Gerard.C · 23-03-2011 12:26am

flahavaj wrote: »

That would be the equivalent of Waterford United signing Chicharito. He deserves to be watched by more than just one man and his dog.:pac:

I think WWE will handle Mistico well. They did an absolutely brilliant job with Mysterio in fairness, far better than anyone could have hoped at the time.

Alberto isnt exactly in the Dark Match Battle Royal there at Wrestlemania either now. I think they'll do a great job with him. They had a press conference for him and all.

Rjd2 · 23-03-2011 12:28am

Headshot wrote: »

The likes of Kaval **** up has me worried tbh. That's a few years ago with Ray came btw bai and came when times were good

Kaval is no where near the level of a draw that Mistico is, even someone with Kaval's arrogance would admit that.

He is to important for them to mess up.

Headshot · 23-03-2011 12:29am

Rjd2 wrote: »

Kaval is no where near the level of a draw that Mistico is, even someone with Kaval's arrogance would admit that.

Oh i know that but it certainly didnt help him the way he was booked

flahavaj · 23-03-2011 12:31am

Headshot wrote: »

Nope. I know its crazy but the x division (even thou its not what it use to be) would be ideal for Sin

TNA wouldn't have a bulls notion what to so with him. They'd probably take his mask off and have him doing skits trying to sneak across the border or something.

The likes of Kaval **** up has me worried tbh. That's a few years ago with Ray came btw bai and came when times were good

Kaval is a complete twat backstage though and his ego has caused him trouble in several places he has worked in the past, si i don't really blame WWE too mush for that one. WWE's record with the so called super workers like Danielson, Rey etc is actually pretty good. The build they're giving Mistico suggests to me they're serious. Rey won't be around in a couple of years I'd imagine, he's in bits, so there's a spot on the card just waiting for him to assume.

ricero · 23-03-2011 12:42am

gimmick wrote: »

Great video packages before an initial debut are generally a curse though.

I seem to remember Ultimo Dragon had a similar good build up and he never amounted to anything in WWE. Similar to a re packaged Sean O Haire. Poor Ol Waylon Mercy long time back as well.

I am sure there are a few more, and of course a few which will defeat the point.

I wouldn't agree with that. Del rio had a huge build up package and Lots of video packages and was a huge sucess

parker kent · 23-03-2011 12:43am

I don't think there is a wrestler alive who would be booked better in TNA.

Rjd2 · 23-03-2011 1:11am

parker kent wrote: »

I don't think there is a wrestler alive who would be booked better in TNA.

Chris Masters would have been World Champ in TNA..:(:(

parker kent · 23-03-2011 1:48am

Rjd2 wrote: »

Chris Masters would have been World Champ in TNA..:(:(

He'd probably have been world champ and then have lost clean to Mike Tenay the week after :pac:

Charisteas · 23-03-2011 6:57am

cian68 wrote: »

and umaga as far as I remember, and the great kahli the smackdown after mania.

jaykhunter wrote: »

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jmolloy · 23-03-2011 9:35am

parker kent wrote: »

I don't think there is a wrestler alive who would be booked better in TNA.

pope was booked far better in tna than he was as elijah

parker kent · 23-03-2011 2:18pm

jmolloy wrote: »

pope was booked far better in tna than he was as elijah

It was an off-the-cuff remark, it doesn't really warrant deep analysis. It was an exaggerated way of saying that TNA are normally poor/illogical in their booking in the Russo era.

jmolloy · 23-03-2011 4:09pm

parker kent wrote: »

It was an off-the-cuff remark, it doesn't really warrant deep analysis. It was an exaggerated way of saying that TNA are normally poor/illogical in their booking in the Russo era.

well thats true pope is the only one I can think off and quite a lot off wwe stars have made their way to tna in recent years.

Anyway very excited by Mistico, is it Smackdown we're anticipating him to show up on

Lord TSC · 23-03-2011 4:18pm

Think I've seen he's being advertised on future Raw house shows...which would suit, cause I'd adore seeing him in Dublin...

Smoshi · 23-03-2011 4:56pm

Id say they'll build him up slowly after he comes in. Like give him a few good wins before any feud. Build him up how they want him & how they want fans to see him.

Sin Cara/Mistico

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