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Could this law mean the end of Call of Duty?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    It won't be 'the end of Call of duty' It will be the start of being able to actually play the game

    That's an American law anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    No more annoying 12 year old kids.....happy days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    major bill wrote: »
    No more annoying 12 year old kids.....happy days

    Wouldn't count on it, parents buy their kids the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    could someone post the article ? Tis blocked for me :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    A proposed law restricting the sale of violent games could have a great impact on the future of Activision's popular shooter franchise.

    George Rose, Activision Blizzard Executive VP and Chief Public Policy Officer, claims the publisher would no longer be able produce the hit Call of Duty series if the Supreme Court deems a 2005 law to be constitutional, making it illegal for retailers to sell violent games to minors and impose $1,000 fines for each violation in California.

    The Supreme Court heard oral arguments this past November regarding the proposed law. A decision has not been reached.

    "What would happen is that Call of Duty would then carry on it a 'restricted' category, no store in this country would carry that game, and the game would never be made. Period. End of question." Rose stated during a debate titled "Do Video Games Cause Violence" held at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco last night.

    Rose claims that Activision Blizzard looks to fire any retail clerk that sells one of the publisher's M rated games to someone under the age of 17. "We've had store clerks fired and we improved those particular stores where there were incidents, but to be blunt about it, we had people fired," he said. Rose was then asked by moderator John Diaz of the San Francisco Chronicle why a law that restricts the sale of Call of Duty to minors would affect Activision's business model when the publisher doesn't want to sell to minors in the first place.
    panelists_1300474087.jpg From Left to Right - Jim Steyer, George Rose, and Michael McConnell
    "In addition to the little 'scarlet letter' placed on the box, there's also a $1,000 fine per each unit sold. Last time I looked, there were about 5 million units sold [of Call of Duty: Black Ops] in California, so that number times $1,000, that's a lot of money to put on the line," Rose explained.

    Fellow panelist Jim Steyer, Founder and CEO of Common Sense Media, and an advocate of the bill, challenged Rose on his claim, saying Activision is going to make $500 million in the process and that there's no way the publisher would pull those games off store shelves.

    "Of course I would," responded Rose. "It's chilling the speech and it wouldn't be even our speech, it would be chilling the speech of everybody else. In the process, it's going to result in fewer games and jobs in this state."

    Rose also brought up the Motion Picture Association Of America (MMPA) rating's system used for films.

    "May I remind you what happened to NC-17? That was supposed to be an alternative to the X-rated movie," he said. "And in that case it was supposed to allow films that depict controversial subjects to find their way into movie theaters and stores, and guess what happened?"

    "Nobody wants to show them in theaters or carry them in stores like Walmart, and therefore there are no NC-17 mainstream movies."

    An archived video of the entire hour-long debate can be found on the Commonwealth Club's Livestream channel.



    Do you think we'll still see Call of Duty if this law is deemed constitutional?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭Dues Bellator


    Magill wrote: »
    could someone post the article ? Tis blocked for me :(


    here ya go.



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    A proposed law restricting the sale of violent games could have a great impact on the future of Activision's popular shooter franchise.

    George Rose, Activision Blizzard Executive VP and Chief Public Policy Officer, claims the publisher would no longer be able produce the hit Call of Duty series if the Supreme Court deems a 2005 law to be constitutional, making it illegal for retailers to sell violent games to minors and impose $1,000 fines for each violation in California.

    The Supreme Court heard oral arguments this past November regarding the proposed law. A decision has not been reached.

    "What would happen is that Call of Duty would then carry on it a 'restricted' category, no store in this country would carry that game, and the game would never be made. Period. End of question." Rose stated during a debate titled "Do Video Games Cause Violence" held at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco last night.

    Rose claims that Activision Blizzard looks to fire any retail clerk that sells one of the publisher's M rated games to someone under the age of 17. "We've had store clerks fired and we improved those particular stores where there were incidents, but to be blunt about it, we had people fired," he said. Rose was then asked by moderator John Diaz of the San Francisco Chronicle why a law that restricts the sale of Call of Duty to minors would affect Activision's business model when the publisher doesn't want to sell to minors in the first place.

    From Left to Right - Jim Steyer, George Rose, and Michael McConnell
    "In addition to the little 'scarlet letter' placed on the box, there's also a $1,000 fine per each unit sold. Last time I looked, there were about 5 million units sold [of Call of Duty: Black Ops] in California, so that number times $1,000, that's a lot of money to put on the line," Rose explained.

    Fellow panelist Jim Steyer, Founder and CEO of Common Sense Media, and an advocate of the bill, challenged Rose on his claim, saying Activision is going to make $500 million in the process and that there's no way the publisher would pull those games off store shelves.

    "Of course I would," responded Rose. "It's chilling the speech and it wouldn't be even our speech, it would be chilling the speech of everybody else. In the process, it's going to result in fewer games and jobs in this state."

    Rose also brought up the Motion Picture Association Of America (MMPA) rating's system used for films.

    "May I remind you what happened to NC-17? That was supposed to be an alternative to the X-rated movie," he said. "And in that case it was supposed to allow films that depict controversial subjects to find their way into movie theaters and stores, and guess what happened?"

    "Nobody wants to show them in theaters or carry them in stores like Walmart, and therefore there are no NC-17 mainstream movies."

    An archived video of the entire hour-long debate can be found on the Commonwealth Club's Livestream channel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,601 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    yeah I'm sure stores wouldn't change their policy to make bucketloads of money :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Isnt it already illegal to sell to minors tho ? It certainly wont equal the end of call of duty. The whole "Does video games cause violence" debate is a joke, the sooner these old farts are replaced in governments the better because they're so far behind the times its unreal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭Dues Bellator


    Magill wrote: »
    Isnt it already illegal to sell to minors tho ? It certainly wont equal the end of call of duty. The whole "Does video games cause violence" debate is a joke, the sooner these old farts are replaced in governments the better because they're so far behind the times its unreal.


    Ming Cambell for Leader :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    COD should be illegal....

    Then people might look at games with a proper perspective instead of comparing it to COD


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭Dues Bellator


    Korvanica wrote: »
    COD should be illegal....

    Then people might look at games with a proper perspective instead of comparing it to COD



    Boooo down with that sort of thing:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    almanu wrote: »
    Boooo down with that sort of thing:D

    He's got a point though, all fps games are trying to emulate COD's model of gameplay now, killstreaks, changable classes, Killzone 3 and Crysis 2, Homefront etc etc. hell Crysis 2 even has a 3/5/7 killstreak setup ala COD4. Its nice when fps games like Bulletstorm do the complete opposite and go in a different direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    Rose claims that Activision Blizzard looks to fire any retail clerk that sells one of the publisher's M rated games to someone under the age of 17. "We've had store clerks fired and we improved those particular stores where there were incidents, but to be blunt about it, we had people fired," he said. Rose was then asked by moderator John Diaz of the San Francisco Chronicle why a law that restricts the sale of Call of Duty to minors would affect Activision's business model when the publisher doesn't want to sell to minors in the first place.

    Wow. Way to make yourself popular. Do Budweiser (Anheuser-Busch) or Philip Morris adopt such moronic policies? Might as well call a press conference and announce the new name for Activision Blizzard is now Pack of C*nts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    krudler wrote: »
    He's got a point though, all fps games are trying to emulate COD's model of gameplay now, killstreaks, changable classes, Killzone 3 and Crysis 2, Homefront etc etc. hell Crysis 2 even has a 3/5/7 killstreak setup ala COD4. Its nice when fps games like Bulletstorm do the complete opposite and go in a different direction.
    maybe battlefield wasnt as big a game as some in the cod series and while there are similarities they took there own approach to online multiplayer gaming and made it work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭Dues Bellator


    got online today for an hour or so , connection was a bit laggy , but some games i was loving it 28 k 4 d , then some games which i thought i was playing ok in i was getting horrible k/ds , :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    almanu wrote: »
    got online today for an hour or so , connection was a bit laggy , but some games i was loving it 28 k 4 d , then some games which i thought i was playing ok in i was getting horrible k/ds , :confused:

    wrong thread maybe ? lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭Dues Bellator


    sierra117x wrote: »
    wrong thread maybe ? lol

    my bad sorry:o


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