Should Liverpool give Kenny Dalglish a full time contract?

stumpypeeps

While both Dalglish and Henry remain tight lipped about any contract negotiations, it seems many supporters have already made their mind up and would like to see Dalglish installed on a permanent basis. It'd be interesting to gauge this forums views on whether Dalglish and his coaching appointment, Steve Clarke, should take the club forward for the next number of years.

It'd be useful for those who don't believe he is the right man to suggest a viable alternative. I don't intend this poll to be love in for "King Kenny". Many Liverpool fans still have concerns he's got the ability to rebuild the club.

tommyhaas

Yes he should be given the job. Since Dalglish took over, Liverpool have accumulated more points then any other EPL side, granted they have played two more games in that period then Chelsea, but there's been some tough games in that run, particularly Chelsea, Utd and Everton.

Obviously there's been a few blips along the way, Braga and West Ham immediately spring to mind but overall the team's results and performances in this period have been excellent relative to the strength of the squad

stumpypeeps

tommyhaas wrote: »

Yes he should be given the job. Since Dalglish took over, Liverpool have accumulated more points then any other EPL side, granted they have played two more games in that period then Chelsea, but there's been some tough games in that run, particularly Chelsea, Utd and Everton.

Obviously there's been a few blips along the way, Braga and West Ham immediately spring to mind but overall the team's results and performances in this period have been excellent relative to the strength of the squad

I have my concerns in some regards but its difficult to come up with a viable alternative. The appointment of Steve Clarke is a real coup.

Pauleta

Yeah i would give him the job. I think he has gotten something out of the players that didnt try a bone under Hodgson and the players know that he has an obsessive level of support from the fans so if they are not performing or are unhappy in someway, it will always be Dalglish that wins out. You cant buy a manager who has supreme power over the players like that.

eagle eye

His resumee includes 4 league titles and an FA Cup triumph. The team he is managing right now is playing well. The fans love him. The media love him.

I don't think there is a better candidate for the job.

I am actually shocked that the question is even asked on here.

RasTa

Surprised it's even questioned. Which current player is Scully?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzUNQxM2JE8

Leiva

Yes





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dfx-

Not yet, but probably

stumpypeeps

mixednuts wrote: »

Yes





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I actually didn't think this would be too one sided. If he was overlooked for the job. FSG deciding to go with someone else, would we be dealing with massive fan fury?

Kess73

stumpypeeps wrote: »

I actually didn't think this would be too one sided. If he was overlooked for the job. FSG deciding to go with someone else, would we be dealing with massive fan fury?

I think it would depend on who the someone else is. As discussed in the superthread over the last couple of days, the list of managers that would be accepted would seem to be a short one.

super_furry

I'm still not 100% convinced, but you'd have to give him a full season at least.

stumpypeeps

Kess73 wrote: »

I think it would depend on who the someone else is. As discussed in the superthread over the last couple of days, the list of managers that would be accepted would seem to be a short one.

I think it would be extremely difficult for a manager like Villas Boas to be given the job. Likewise someone like Klopp or Rangnick. To my mind the only viable alternative is Didier Deschamps. Mourinho I doubt would relish such a massive challenge.

blockedPaT

Yes should be given one And steve clark should be kept one too

L'prof

Is this really an "Are Dalglish and Liverpool done?" thread in disguise?

That_Guy

He's been very busy in the transfer market for what is essentially a caretaker manager for the moment.

I don't think they'd have given him that much money to spend if he wasn't going to be given the job full time.

If the owners want the fans onside, they'll have to give him the job. I'd be very surprised if he's not given a lucrative contract come the summer.

Paully D

Yes and he will be.

Handsome Bob

Yes, as he's earned it, and I can be big enough to admit that I thought he might be a disaster. I was actually glad when Roy got the job over him last Summer, jaysus, who knew how things would end up eh!? :pac:

Sir Gallagher

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Yes, as he's earned it, and I can be big enough to admit that I thought he might be a disaster. I was actually glad when Roy got the job over him last Summer, jaysus, who knew how things would end up eh!? :pac:

Me too , yet when he got the sack the line was, "Roy never got a chance with the Liverpool fans".

Ganymede Glow

Aye captain, give em the job

:cool:

Yes he should imo.

He's doing a very good job. When he took over we were 4 points above the relegation zone. Now we are 13 points above the relegation zone (thrown in for comparison) and 4 points behind 5th.

We averaged 1.25 points per game under Hodgson. Under Kenny it's 2 per game.

Under Hodgson we had 1 away win in 20 games (quite a feat in itself). Under Kenny it's 3 so far in 10 games.

The performances more than anything have improved. He has the whole team playing higher up the pitch in comparisant to Hodgsons stone age tactics. We are also knocking the ball about quite nicely at times. We are far from the finished article though contrary to popular belief

Having been over at a handfull of games this season I can tell you the buzz around the place is completely different since Kenny took over.

The man understands the club and fans better than anyone. He loves them and the feeling is reciprocated.

I could go on and on but the number one reason why I think he should get the job is because he has improved results and performances.

I think the owners are playing it right though waiting until seasons end or near the end to announce it.

I really hope he gets it. I'm obviously biased cuz I love the man, a true Liverpool great

Mister men

Is is a serious question? lol

Stevecw

Of course he should. Why is this even a question!

ShamoBuc

bit of a no brainer really.

Lawrence1895

I would like to see him on a permanent contract, it just needs a couple of new players to boost the squad

Turtyturd

Yeah it would be crazy to appoint anyone else. In the 2months he has been incharge there have been noticable improvements in players like Johnson and Meireles...but most importantly there is a sense of belief back in the club with him in charge.

Plus his press conferences are always good for a chuckle.

Sgt Pepper 64

NO WAY!
By beating my beautiful chelsea boys, he has gifted the title to Manchester and is therefore a big fat traitor.
Bring back Benitez!

jesus_thats_gre

Without doubt!

Le King

Yes he embodies everything that is Liverpool. He's not full of shíte, doesn't make excuses and has delivered results so far. It would be madness not to bring him in on a full time basis.

PHB

tommyhaas wrote: »

Since Dalglish took over, Liverpool have accumulated more points then any other EPL side,

Some Liverpool fans never cease to amaze me with the perverse way they can mess with statistics to suit the Liverpool is great argument Top of the league if you only count games that we're played on alternating Sundays.

Nonetheless, he's done well since taking over. Ultimately, he's been a top class manager in the past and could be a top class manager again. Nobody better out there and a scouser to boot. Don't see why you wouldn't give him a spin. Set a target of getting 4th place next year, see if he meets it.

Nalz

one bad point in his reign as Pool boss this time around was the awful tactics he played against Braga

Tusky

PHB wrote: »

Some Liverpool fans never cease to amaze me with the perverse way they can mess with statistics to suit the Liverpool is great argument Top of the league if you only count games that we're played on alternating Sundays.

Ah come on now - that's a perfectly valid statistic when judging his time as manager.

Although I must say - I do remember you saying that he would be a great choice when many Liverpool fans (myself included) were against it. So hats off to you in that respect.

Trilla wrote: »

one bad point in his reign as Pool boss this time around was the awful tactics he played against Braga

Yep - tactics in Europe were rotten. Thats pretty much the only negative thing I can say about him though.

Yakult

Cant see why he shouldnt get a full time contract.
Players are playing for him, fans are 100% behind him, great personality, handles the media well, has exellent playing knowledge and tactics. And from what I've seen so far he's doing a good job in management.
It cant be easy picking up a demoralised team halfway thru the season and turning things completely around like he has. Hopefully over the summer they can dig into that squad and bring in new players. Hope to be challenging top 4 next year.

mike65

Just thought I'd give this a bump

Some super stats since he (and Steve Clarke) took over on January 8th, including today.

1 Chelsea P14 Pts 35
2 Liverpool P15 Pts 30 (2 point per game average)
3 Manchester United P15 Pts 29
4 Arsenal P14 Pts 27
5 Fulham P14 Pts 23
6 Everton P14 Pts 23
7 West Bromwich Albion P14 Pts 21
8 Aston Villa P14 Pts 20
9 Tottenham Hotspur P13 Pts 19
10 Manchester City P11 Pts 17
11 Birmingham City P15 Pts 17
12 Bolton Wanderers P13 Pts 16
13 Stoke City P14 Pts 16
14 Wigan Athletic P14 Pts 14
15 Newcastle United P14 Pts 13
16 Wolverhampton Wndrs P14 Pts 13
17 West Ham United P12 Pts 12
18 Blackburn Rovers P13 Pts 10
19 Blackpool P16 Pts 10
20 Sunderland P13 Pts 8

Goal Difference +18
Reina kept eight clean sheets in league
Joint most goals scored - 30
Liverpool have scored in every PL game

flahavaj

Easy to do when theres feck all presure.:pac:

stumpypeeps

mike65 wrote: »

Just thought I'd give this a bump

Some super stats since he (and Steve Clarke) took over on January 8th, including today.

1 Chelsea P14 Pts 35
2 Liverpool P15 Pts 30 (2 point per game average)
3 Manchester United P15 Pts 29
4 Arsenal P14 Pts 27
5 Fulham P14 Pts 23
6 Everton P14 Pts 23
7 West Bromwich Albion P14 Pts 21
8 Aston Villa P14 Pts 20
9 Tottenham Hotspur P13 Pts 19
10 Manchester City P11 Pts 17
11 Birmingham City P15 Pts 17
12 Bolton Wanderers P13 Pts 16
13 Stoke City P14 Pts 16
14 Wigan Athletic P14 Pts 14
15 Newcastle United P14 Pts 13
16 Wolverhampton Wndrs P14 Pts 13
17 West Ham United P12 Pts 12
18 Blackburn Rovers P13 Pts 10
19 Blackpool P16 Pts 10
20 Sunderland P13 Pts 8

Goal Difference +18
Reina kept eight clean sheets in league
Joint most goals scored - 30
Liverpool have scored in every PL game

I think its fair to say that he's got the job. Its just a matter of time before its concluded.

I don't think anyone could have envisaged such a turnaround. I know I felt he'd steady the ship till the summer before FSG appointed a continental coach.

eternal

It was even pointless putting that poll up.The answer is so obvious ,not even worth debating ,because debating requires pros and cons.
The mans a God to Liverpool ,he lives and breathes the club.Players like Rodriguez and Kuyt have excelled under him ,they never showed promise like this before .The fans are behind him all the way ,hes one of the greatest players to ever play for Liverpool.The way they sang Happy birthday to him and he was genuinely so happy with this .Where would they be now if Hodgenson was still hanging about -I dread to think.
Liverpool for the league next season !!

Leiva

King Kenny get the job is probably now a given , I'm more anxious to hear news on Steve Clarke putting pen to paper .

fulhamfanincork

Should get Mourinho.

Chucky the tree

eternal wrote: »

It was even pointless putting that poll up.The answer is so obvious ,not even worth debating ,because debating requires pros and cons.
The mans a God to Liverpool ,he lives and breathes the club.Players like Rodriguez and Kuyt have excelled under him ,they never showed promise like this before .The fans are behind him all the way ,hes one of the greatest players to ever play for Liverpool.The way they sang Happy birthday to him and he was genuinely so happy with this .Where would they be now if Hodgenson was still hanging about -I dread to think.
Liverpool for the league next season !!

Huh? Kuyt for the most part has always been excellent for us.

Will I Amnt

eternal wrote: »

Liverpool for the league next season !!

Damn that Déjà vu

LuckyLloyd

Liverpool will not win the league next year - even if we landed Mourinho it would not happen for the squad is simply too many pieces away for it to happen in such a short timeframe.

However, if Dalglish and Clarke are retained and smart decisions made during the next Transfer window there is ever possibility that the team can trade through the premiership season in or around 2 points per game and subsequently qualify for the Champions League.

At this point, the list of names I would be happy with in lieu of Kenny getting the job is about two names long.