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clover

  • 20-03-2011 11:43pm
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    keep going
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    doing a small bit of research at the moment into clover especially red .its just with the way nitrogen is going im wondering could it have a place in the future.my place seems to be "pro"clover even though i put a good bit of ni out,thinking of a red clover/hybrid mix on silage ground that i intend to cut at 7+weeks that i am reseeding at the mo.any thoughts


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    reilig
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    keep going wrote: »
    doing a small bit of research at the moment into clover especially red .its just with the way nitrogen is going im wondering could it have a place in the future.my place seems to be "pro"clover even though i put a good bit of ni out,thinking of a red clover/hybrid mix on silage ground that i intend to cut at 7+weeks that i am reseeding at the mo.any thoughts



    Red Clover is fine on silage ground that you intend to take 2 or 3 cuts of silage off and never graze. You'll have a lovely silage crop.

    If you allow animals to graze the red clover some of them will have bloat.


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    the al kid
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    Keep Going,
    red clover great for producing a good bulk of quality feed.Should last 2-3 years provided management is good.Couple of pointers
    (1) Deffo needs a good wilt-otherwise you will end up with a bale or pit of expensive s--te.
    (2)You must leave a longer stubble than normal as the growing point of RC is about an inch or more above ground.
    (3)Doesnt like compaction
    (4)Not as flexible as white clover from the point of view of utilisation -if you intend to do 2 cuts you would need to be very careful introducing stock onto it for grazing--dont put them on hungry or when the clover is wet.Preferably have the stock on a good white clover pasture beforehand so they are acclimatised to clover.

    Al


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    keep going
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    the plan is to maybe graze once take three cuts at 7-8weeks and one graze in autumn.aim to spread slurry after each cut so what bag if at all would you use


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    sh1tstirrer
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    It works best with Italian ryegrass as Italian is a more open sward.
    http://www.grassland-organicfarming.uni-kiel.de/egf2010/presentations/session_2/2.2.5_Alibegovic_Grbic.pdf


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    keep going
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    sh1tstirrer wrote: »
    It works best with Italian ryegrass as Italian is a more open sward.
    http://www.grassland-organicfarming.uni-kiel.de/egf2010/presentations/session_2/2.2.5_Alibegovic_Grbic.pdf

    gwizz how did you find that ,have to say i knew nothing about this red clover up to a 2 weeks ago but it might have a place yet thanks


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    sh1tstirrer
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    keep going wrote: »
    gwizz how did you find that ,have to say i knew nothing about this red clover up to a 2 weeks ago but it might have a place yet thanks
    I grew Italian ryegrass back in the 90's but it cost a lot to fertilize it taking 4 cuts of silage in the year. I thought that if I sowed white clover with it there would be no need for nitrogen. I researched it and found that red clover was better for cutting and that it worked well with Italian.


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