answer please

County Conundrums

does this battery fit in an ak47??

http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=480

Firekitten

If it takes a battery in the stock, yeah, though you may need a large to small tamiya converter for the plug. If its in the top cover, no. It wont.

Plus, those kinda arent a brill battery for the money, infact thats a terrible price.
Component shop do a 7.4v 1400mah 20c stick type should your ak take its batteries under the dust cover.

higher C rating and MAH, and only £13.50

Lemming

That's an 11.1v LiPo battery. Besides the price being outrageous & whether or not the battery will physically fit, unless you sort out the gearbox to take the increased strain on parts that 11.1v will require, you will absolutely mince your AK's gearbox.

Firekitten

Think more SPEW SPEW than PEW PEW... (That would be gearbox parts reduced to fine dust, spewing from the barrel)
I didnt even notice 11.1 on there... have the same battery in 7.4, its not the best in terms of performance. (thats C and MAH not voltage mind)

Leftyflip

Nah it's brap, brap, sscrths;rghlksfpowerhgosldfgnbwoehr *pieces of piston firing out of barrel* WHIIIRRRRHHH!!!"

Firekitten

I think the general message here is... 'inadvisable'

smallbike

while we're on the subject, i've got a nunchuck battery wired to the rear in a crane stock but was thinking about putting a standard m4 stock on(well, one of those old 4 position ones, slightly smaller than the modern one). does anyone have a stick battery and know if it will fit in a stock/buffer tube?
if so, would it be pushing to put a 9.6v in there?

thanks!

estfront

That's an 11.1v LiPo battery., unless you sort out the gearbox to take the increased strain on parts that 11.1v will require, you will absolutely mince your AK's gearbox.

Think more SPEW SPEW than PEW PEW... (That would be gearbox parts reduced to fine dust, spewing from the barrel).

Nah it's brap, brap, sscrths;rghlksfpowerhgosldfgnbwoehr *pieces of piston firing out of barrel* WHIIIRRRRHHH!!!"

Has this ever actually happened to any of you?? I've been running a 2200mah,11.1V lipo with 25c discharge rating (I'm sure this one is 15c maybe even less) In my Stock gearbox (only 6.03 Tight bore, stock hop up is excelent) 320fps with 0.2g bb's Cyma AKM for over a year now and Nothing has been spewed down the Barrel except tens of thousands of BB's. The wires haven't melted, the fuse has never blown, the motor hasn't burnt out, the gears still have all their teeth. the tappet plate is still in one piece and the piston has barely any wear on it. This is from personal experance with my own AEG. If this has happened to any of your AEGs I'd love to hear what happened, where the gearbox failed?

Even though the Question has been answered: If the battery goes in the stock this will fit, if the battery goes under the top cover it wont.

(I only have given actual personal experance here, should you decide to use this Lipo and your AEG breaks that is your decision. Should you spend 100's of euros on mainly pointless internal upgrades that do not increase performance (we are all limited to 328fps with 0.2g) that too is your decision)

Firekitten

It's never happened to me personally. But the number of guns I've had to repair because lipo's ate thier childre.... gearbox.
Lefty is also a gun tech, and Lemming know's his cheddar with regards to Lipos.
All 3 of us wouldn't post if we didnt have reason to recomend the outcome we did. It's highly unrecomended to use a lipo of that voltage, in a stock gun, You, clearly, were lucky... very lucky. But I wouldnt say that becaues it happened to you, it will be the same for others. There is already great precident for 11.1 lipos being TOO powerful for most guns without upgrades to take it.


As for it fitting, yeah, we said the same, but its not a battery brand or setup i'd recomend, and its deffinately overpriced.

estfront

Firekitten wrote: »

It's never happened to me personally. But the number of guns I've had to repair because lipo's ate thier childre.... gearbox.
Lefty is also a gun tech, and Lemming know's his cheddar with regards to Lipos.
All 3 of us wouldn't post if we didnt have reason to recomend the outcome we did. It's highly unrecomended to use a lipo of that voltage, in a stock gun, You, clearly, were lucky... very lucky. But I wouldnt say that becaues it happened to you, it will be the same for others. There is already great precident for 11.1 lipos being TOO powerful for most guns without upgrades to take it.


As for it fitting, yeah, we said the same, but its not a battery brand or setup i'd recomend, and its deffinately overpriced.

Thanks for the reply. I'd agree overpriced and I'd agree using a high discharge lipo is not reccomended but its not the end of the world if you do. this particular batt is probably low C rated. From your 3 posts it seemed that using any 11.1 lipo in an un-upgraded aeg would automatically spell disaster. It does not. I use the same Lipo in several Aegs and to date no grinding to dust of the gearboxes. I too have a fair bit of experance with AEG internals and have friends that have been dealing with AEGs for over a Decade and I see way too much pointless upgrades in AEGs here. As for Me, clearly, being lucky, Very lucky! If i strip a gear i'll replace it (i've stripped gears with 8.4 mini NiCads) If a part breaks fix it but if the aeg is working fine adding 100's of euro of parts and It will still work fine. You never said what happened in the gearboxes that the Lipos ate? Motor, gears ?? Was the entire gearbox and Internals a write off??

Leftyflip

Piston teeth sheering off, getting lodged in the gears, cylinder, then causing the gearbox to completely lock up and burn out the motor/strip a gear or melt some wiring.

estfront

Leftyflip wrote: »

Piston teeth sheering off, getting lodged in the gears, cylinder, then causing the gearbox to completely lock up and burn out the motor/strip a gear or melt some wiring.

I'm sure your not sayin this happens every time you use an 11.1 lipo in an un-upgraded aeg. Couldn't this happen with any type of battery? If any internal parts of the gearbox break and lodge in the gears wouldn't the outcome be the same what ever the batt type. Or Shouldn't the fuse blow before it got to all that. Not tryin to put people on the defensive here just to add balance to the thread. I personally prefer a 9.6V but 11.1lipos aren't the devil either.

Rooky1

To be honest is there any real need for using an 11.1 lipo!

There are plenty of other cost effective ways of increasing the rof while still using standard batteries or 7.4v lipos (my personal choice).

estfront

Anyway the op ques has been answered and We are off topic.

Firekitten

Not that far off topic.

You do have a point, No, just putting an 11.1 in a gun will not cause it to instantly break. But it Massively increases the chance of this happening, and vastly increases wear. The CHANCE of catestrophic failure, is high, Including in v2 boxes, the gearbox front sheering off.

Nobody has said 11.1v are the devil... I run 7.4v Lipos in most of my guns. One simply has to consider the effect this can have on the gun.

As for pointless upgrades... shows your understanding of the aeg system. Few are pointless, and one can do a lot at 328 as a limit. the FPS is not the be all and end all.
I'm not going to get into an experience pissing contest, I dont see the point.

replacing a part that breaks in such a system, is like prescribing antidepressants. It treats the symptom. How do you solve the problem?
Treat the cause. Replace a part or parts, with more suitable ones for the job. Pointless? nope.

estfront

Firekitten wrote: »

Not that far off topic.

As for pointless upgrades... shows your understanding of the aeg system.
I'm not going to get into an experience pissing contest, I dont see the point.

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I'm all for a technical disscusion but have no time for personal insults, just because you disagree with my opinion. I will no longer post on this thread.

Dread-Lock

estfront wrote: »

I will no longer post on this thread.

Usually when people get offended and stop posting on a thread, they don't generally post on said thread.
Have a problem, hit the report button.

IBTL!

Firekitten

estfront wrote: »

I'm all for a technical disscusion but have no time for personal insults, just because you disagree with my opinion. I will no longer post on this thread.

I haven't insulted you, and if you got that impression, I'm deeply sorry.
From what I read, you wanted to 'tell' not 'discuss'

Leftyflip

estfront wrote: »

I'm all for a technical disscusion but have no time for personal insults, just because you disagree with my opinion. I will no longer post on this thread.

Hardly an insult...

RogueSpear

I'd be insulted!! Lefty how about if someone told you that all the money on upgrades you do to your custom aegs shows how little you know about the AEG system, would you let that go?? Would you not be insulted? I doubt it, I wouldn't. While I don't often use11.1 lipo in my aegs, using them is not the death sentence that the 3 of you implied in the first 3 or 4 posts. Which I think is the point the other guy was tryin to make.
And while firekitten later clarified her statement

"No, just putting an 11.1 in a gun will not cause it to instantly break. But it Massively increases the chance of this happening, and vastly increases wear. The CHANCE of catestrophic failure, is high, Including in v2 boxes, the gearbox front sheering off."

Its a far cry from the first statement on 11.1 lipos which was:

Think more SPEW SPEW than PEW PEW... (That would be gearbox parts reduced to fine dust, spewing from the barrel).

What part of the V2 gear box could sheer off as a result of using a Lipo??? Anyway not insulting anyone, Lefty love your custom work. I'm sure Firekitten and Dread-lock are enjoying a week off or a warning for their trouble

Dread-Lock

RogueSpear wrote: »

Anyway not insulting anyone, Lefty love your custom work. I'm sure Firekitten and Dread-lock are enjoying a week off or a warning for their trouble

Nah your better then that, you wouldn't insult anyone, but throwing a dig in is apparently alright in your books...

And yeah I'm having a blast, thanks for thinking about me .

Firekitten

RogueSpear wrote: »

I'd be insulted!! Lefty how about if someone told you that all the money on upgrades you do to your custom aegs shows how little you know about the AEG system, would you let that go?? Would you not be insulted? I doubt it, I wouldn't. While I don't often use11.1 lipo in my aegs, using them is not the death sentence that the 3 of you implied in the first 3 or 4 posts. Which I think is the point the other guy was tryin to make.
And while firekitten later clarified her statement

"No, just putting an 11.1 in a gun will not cause it to instantly break. But it Massively increases the chance of this happening, and vastly increases wear. The CHANCE of catestrophic failure, is high, Including in v2 boxes, the gearbox front sheering off."

Its a far cry from the first statement on 11.1 lipos which was:

Think more SPEW SPEW than PEW PEW... (That would be gearbox parts reduced to fine dust, spewing from the barrel).

What part of the V2 gear box could sheer off as a result of using a Lipo??? Anyway not insulting anyone, Lefty love your custom work. I'm sure Firekitten and Dread-lock are enjoying a week off or a warning for their trouble

Yep, working on my tan, catching up on some reading... having a lovely week off Uni actually, thanks for asking

The front of the v2 gearbox is a weakpoint. In high rate of fire systems, where there is repeated impact pressure on the front of the gearbox, the front of the box can and has been known to sheer off, or crack.

As for your initial complaint Roughspear, if you read the topic, you would notice that estfront was claiming 'pointless upgrades' NOT me or Dread-lock. So before you swing your axe of justice, be sure to aim at the right tree.

Leftyflip

That would be fine. I know exactly what i do. But if someone feels that, i don't care.

Firekitten

Lefty... your barrel is pointless... take it out, you dont need one! its pointless! I mean, the bb will still kinda shoot out... fitting one is therefore a waste of time and money in my humble opinion. :rolleyes:;):pac:

Leftyflip

Firekitten wrote: »

Lefty... your barrel is pointless... take it out, you dont need one! its pointless! I mean, the bb will still kinda shoot out... fitting one is therefore a waste of time and money in my humble opinion. :rolleyes:;):pac:

Your piston head is pointless, it'll still work with out it, not as well but it'll still work :pac::pac:

Firekitten

I see your piston head, and raise you an.... anti reversal latch!

RogueSpear

Now tryin to have a balanced, inteligent discussion on boards..... Now thats Pointless!!!!

Firekitten

Irony... I love it.:rolleyes::D:pac: