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Your team of the 6 Nations.

  • 20-03-2011 4:35am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭


    My XV
    Some are debatable but you cant argue with the 2nd row, half backs and Chris Ashton. For me though even though Ashton grabbed the headlines, the performances of Parisse in his 5 games were awesome.
    In all I had 5 English, 3 Italian, 2 French, 2 Irish, 2 Welsh and 1 Scottish. I do have a soft spot for Italy so maybe I over-compensated.

    1 Salvatore Perugini (ITA)
    2 William Servat (FRA)
    3 Dan Cole (ENG)
    4 Richie Gray (SCO)
    5 Bradley Davies (WAL)
    6 Sean O' Brien (IRE)
    7 Thierry Dusatoir (FRA)
    8 Sergio Parisse (ITA)
    9 Ben Youngs (ENG)
    10 Toby Flood (ENG)
    11 Mirco Bergamasco (ITA)
    12 James Hook (WAL)
    13 Brian O'Driscoll (IRE)
    14 Chris Ashton (ENG)
    15 Ben Foden (ENG)

    Player of the tournament : Parisse (ITA)

    Anyway what are yours?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    1. Domingo (FRA)
    2. Servant (FRA)
    3. Giovanni (ITA)
    4. Palmer (ENG)
    5. Gray (SCO)
    6. O'Brien (IRL)
    7. Warburton (WAL)
    8. Pairsee (ITA)

    9. Youngs (ENG)
    10. Flood (ENG)
    11. Clerc (FRA)
    12. Davies (WAL)
    13. O'Driscoll (IRL)
    14. Bowe (IRL)
    15. Patterson (SCO)

    To explain some of the decisions, I thought the French front row was superb, Servant & Domingo were stand out performers in their positions, as was Giovanni for Italy, second row, I think Gray was immense and Palmer was next best lock in the competition, back row Pairsee and O'Brien were both their countries (arguably) best players, and went for unsung hero Warburton of Wales who had a fine tournament.

    In the backs, the half-back pairing of Young & Flood were the best pair in the competition, but only failed to out-play one other half back pairing on the day ;) (which is good news for Leinster when the same two 9/10 axis meet again in the Heineken Cup at the same venue) Clerc was great as usual, moved him onto the left to make way for Bowe who, despite only bagging the one try, was in my opinion the best winger in the competition, the guy transforms a backline, and against Wales especially, was my man of the match, O'Driscoll just keeps on doing it. Don't know how, but the guy is worth his weight in gold.

    No inside centre screamed out to me to be picked, but I picked Davies on the basis of him being so young and showing so much ability, that I feel for his first few caps he did extremely well and is the one to watch for the future, and at full-back, vintage vintage full back, Chris Patterson, again try saving tackle against Italy, carbon copy from the week before, he's the fine wine of full-backs.

    A total of 3 French, 3 English, 3 Irish, 2 Welsh, 2 Scottish & 2 Italians. A fair reflection of a fairly even competition.

    My choice of coach, Martin Johnson. Has balls, picks his best team, got it badly wrong coming to Ireland, but I feel like he's the special breed of coach who has the ability to learn and isn't terrofoed of failure, in fact, it makes him and his team a better one for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭KevinK


    1. Domingo
    2. Hartley
    3. Ross
    4. Gray
    5. Nallet
    6. O'Brien
    7. Warburton
    8. Parisse
    9. Youngs
    10.Flood
    11.Ashton
    12. Hape
    13.O'Driscoll
    14. Bowe
    15.Foden


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭TheRevolution


    1.Domingo
    2.Servat
    3.Ross (considering he shored up Ireland's scrum he deserves it)
    4.Gray
    5.Palmer
    6.O'Brien
    7.Warburton
    8.Parisse
    9.Youngs
    10.Flood
    11.Bergamasco
    12.Hook
    13.O'Driscoll
    14.Ashton
    15.Masi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭gally74


    id agree with ross,

    the difference in the scrum is fantasitc from where we were a few months back, nb i think cian healy has improved his scrummaging too and had a very good tournament


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭lologram


    Domingo
    Hartley
    Ross
    Gray
    Davies
    O'Brien
    Warburton
    Parisse

    Youngs
    Flood
    Cueto
    Davies
    O'Driscoll
    Ashton
    Masi


    5 English, 3 Irish, 3 Welsh, 2 Italians, 1 French, 1 Scot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭CouchSmart


    1. Healy
    2. Servat
    3. Castrogiovanni
    4. Gray
    5. Palmer
    6. O'Brien
    7. Warburton
    8. Parisse

    9. Semenzato
    10. Hook/Flood/Sexton

    12. D'Arcy
    13. O'Driscoll

    11. Clerc
    14. Ashton
    15. Masi/Byrne

    4 Irish, 2 French, 3 Italians, 2 English, 1 Welsh, 1 Scottish and 2 undecided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    1. Domingo
    2. Hartley/Servat
    3. Cole
    4. Gray
    5. Palmer
    6. O'Brien
    7. Haskell
    8. Parisse
    9. Youngs
    10. Flood
    11. Clerc
    12. Davies
    13. Canale/O'Driscoll
    14. Ashton
    15. Foden/Bryne

    Have to say that a lot of those backs are in there by default really. Not many have stood out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Foden
    Ashton
    O'Driscoll
    Roberts
    Evans
    Flood
    Youngs
    Domingo
    Servat
    Castrogiovanni
    Palmer
    Alun-Wynn Jones
    Sean O'Brien
    Warburton
    Parisse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Here's the UK Independent's team

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/news-comment/the-team-of-the-six-nations-2249771.html?action=Gallery&ino=15

    Interesting to see BOD, POC and Ross as our three representatives. Good to see Richie Gray recognised and interesting comments on Parisse. Don't get the Tom Wood thing at all :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭BoarHunter


    Ashton was far better than Bowe in my opinion. O'Brien was immense. I wasn't impressed my Flood TBH. I would put O'Gara there for his masterclass display against Scotland. Medard and foden fighting for the 15 shirt for me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭SomeFool


    BoarHunter wrote: »
    Ashton was far better than Bowe in my opinion. O'Brien was immense. I wasn't impressed my Flood TBH. I would put O'Gara there for his masterclass display against Scotland. Medard and foden fighting for the 15 shirt for me

    To be fair to Bowe he was injured at the start of the tournament. He showed just how good he is when fully fit on Saturday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Best of the Tournament for me (next best in brackets)............I'm sure you'll all disagree (a few allstar type poetic license with a few positions)!!

    15. Ben Foden (Andrea Masi)
    14. Chris Ashton (Tommy Bowe)
    13. Brian O'Driscoll (Jo Ansbro)
    12. James Hook (Gonzalo Canale)
    11. Keith Earls (Maxime Medard)
    10. Toby Flood (Sexton/ROG)
    9. Morgan Parra (Ben Youngs)
    8. Sergio Parisse (Sean O'Brien)
    7. David Wallace (Sam Warburton)
    6. Thierry Dusatoir (Tom Wood)
    5. Tom Palmer (Paul O'Connell)
    4. Richie Gray (Lional Nallet)
    3. Martin Castrogiovanni (Mike Ross)
    2. William Servat (Dylan Hartley)
    1. Thomas Domingo (Cian Healy)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭BoarHunter


    SomeFool wrote: »
    To be fair to Bowe he was injured at the start of the tournament. He showed just how good he is when fully fit on Saturday.

    yes but we are talking about the tournament. i'm not saying that Ashton is a better player than bowe. far from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Luckycharm


    Masi at fullback for me was excellent in last few games stood out in a poor backline.
    Bowe didn't play enough games to be ahead of ashton.
    Agree that Hook has to be there somewhere- Wales best back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    Luckycharm wrote: »
    Masi at fullback for me was excellent in last few games stood out in a poor backline.
    Bowe didn't play enough games to be ahead of ashton.
    Agree that Hook has to be there somewhere- Wales best back.

    Saw on Aertel today that Masi was voted player of the tournament.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 laft foot


    Saw on Aertel today that Masi was voted player of the tournament.

    Yeah i think someone spelt it wrong, it should have said Parrisse or O Brien!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Masi came into his own towards the end of the tournament, but I think it would be a bit of a stretch to call him player of the tournament, but fair play to him and nice to see an Italian winning it, just cause, well, it's nice to see them competing and gaining recognition (intended in the least patronising way possible).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭kevin99


    My XV
    Some are debatable but you cant argue with the 2nd row, half backs and Chris Ashton. For me though even though Ashton grabbed the headlines, the performances of Parisse in his 5 games were awesome.
    In all I had 5 English, 3 Italian, 2 French, 2 Irish, 2 Welsh and 1 Scottish. I do have a soft spot for Italy so maybe I over-compensated.

    1 Salvatore Perugini (ITA)
    2 William Servat (FRA)
    3 Dan Cole (ENG)
    4 Richie Gray (SCO)
    5 Bradley Davies (WAL)
    6 Sean O' Brien (IRE)
    7 Thierry Dusatoir (FRA)
    8 Sergio Parisse (ITA)
    9 Ben Youngs (ENG)
    10 Toby Flood (ENG)
    11 Mirco Bergamasco (ITA)
    12 James Hook (WAL)
    13 Brian O'Driscoll (IRE)
    14 Chris Ashton (ENG)
    15 Ben Foden (ENG)

    Player of the tournament : Parisse (ITA)

    Anyway what are yours?
    Cian Healy at 3.
    Paul O'Connell at 4.
    Sean Obrien at 6.
    Jamie Heaslep at 8.
    David Wallace at 7.

    Eoin Reddan at 9
    John Sexton at 10

    Gordon D'arcy at 12
    Brian O'Driscoll at 13
    Tommy Bowe at 14
    Chris Patterson at 15

    Ireland scored three tries against France and should have beaten them.
    Ireland were well in control and the better team against Wales but for a disgraceful refereeing decision.
    Ireland gave England a good thrashing. My God, England never learn. They showed now respect to Ireland and got their commuppence.

    So Ireland which is also ranked 4th in the World behind NZ, Australia and St Africa is the best Northern Hemisphere team.

    Goes without saying Ireland should have the majority of players in the Six Nations team for 2011.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭kevin99


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    1. Domingo (FRA)
    2. Servant (FRA)
    3. Giovanni (ITA)
    4. Palmer (ENG)
    5. Gray (SCO)
    6. O'Brien (IRL)
    7. Warburton (WAL)
    8. Pairsee (ITA)

    9. Youngs (ENG)
    10. Flood (ENG)
    11. Clerc (FRA)
    12. Davies (WAL)
    13. O'Driscoll (IRL)
    14. Bowe (IRL)
    15. Patterson (SCO)

    To explain some of the decisions, I thought the French front row was superb, Servant & Domingo were stand out performers in their positions, as was Giovanni for Italy, second row, I think Gray was immense and Palmer was next best lock in the competition, back row Pairsee and O'Brien were both their countries (arguably) best players, and went for unsung hero Warburton of Wales who had a fine tournament.

    In the backs, the half-back pairing of Young & Flood were the best pair in the competition, but only failed to out-play one other half back pairing on the day ;) (which is good news for Leinster when the same two 9/10 axis meet again in the Heineken Cup at the same venue) Clerc was great as usual, moved him onto the left to make way for Bowe who, despite only bagging the one try, was in my opinion the best winger in the competition, the guy transforms a backline, and against Wales especially, was my man of the match, O'Driscoll just keeps on doing it. Don't know how, but the guy is worth his weight in gold.

    No inside centre screamed out to me to be picked, but I picked Davies on the basis of him being so young and showing so much ability, that I feel for his first few caps he did extremely well and is the one to watch for the future, and at full-back, vintage vintage full back, Chris Patterson, again try saving tackle against Italy, carbon copy from the week before, he's the fine wine of full-backs.

    A total of 3 French, 3 English, 3 Irish, 2 Welsh, 2 Scottish & 2 Italians. A fair reflection of a fairly even competition.

    My choice of coach, Martin Johnson. Has balls, picks his best team, got it badly wrong coming to Ireland, but I feel like he's the special breed of coach who has the ability to learn and isn't terrofoed of failure, in fact, it makes him and his team a better one for it.

    Johnson the coach? You got to be kidding! He desperately lacks man-management skills. How could he blend in the Celtic players with the England saxons?
    He has no personality. And he has reverted to ten man rugby which is a retrograde step for England in this a world cup year. The big man is tactcally naieve and has a lot to learn on and off the pitch.

    He displayed no tactical awareness during the Scottish game, which England were lucky to win and his lack of coaching experience was badly exposed by Ireland's top class performance against England.
    So, no way would Johnson be the coach. Like most England teams and backroom staff, they actually believe they are much better than they really are. The England half backs were both replaced against Ireland. They couldn't peform, couldn't take the pressure. And wasn't it Youngs who received a yellow card for petulance? You say no inside centre stood out for you. Well then, Gordon D'Arcy gets in. My goodness all last week the English were talking up big Banahan and how he was going to destroy Ireland's centre partnership. Well, I don't remember big Banahan making any break or playing through either D'Arcy or O'Dricoll. Several leading rugby analysts, former international players, praised D'Arcy's performance and O'Driscoll's describing it as a class act and one that up and coming centres should emulate.
    I'd have Declan Kidney as coach with Andy Robinson as assistant. The latter is doing a great job with very limited playing resources in Scotland and the former is a Grand Slam coach who got his team playing the way they are capable of playing with a fantastic result.
    Maybe I missed something during the six nations but what other country beat England, besides Ireland?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭GerM


    kevin99 wrote: »
    Cian Healy at 3.
    Paul O'Connell at 4.
    Jamie Heaslep at 8.
    John Sexton at 10
    Gordon D'arcy at 12

    Ireland were well in control and the better team against Wales but for a disgraceful refereeing decision.
    Ireland gave England a good thrashing. My God, England never learn. They showed now respect to Ireland and got their commuppence.

    So Ireland which is also ranked 4th in the World behind NZ, Australia and St Africa is the best Northern Hemisphere team.

    Goes without saying Ireland should have the majority of players in the Six Nations team for 2011.

    Healy's a loosehead.
    POC plays 5.
    Heaslip had a poor tournament by his standards.
    Sexton had an average tournament.
    D'Arcy had an average at best tournament.

    One thing Ireland didn't have against Wales, was control hence the change at 10 which didn't steady things much either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Gordon Gecko


    My team of the tournament:

    Tom Court

    14 other players really aren't necessary when you have a man mountain like this on the pitch. He held the Irish scrum together this 6 nations and is indeed such a force that an IRB directive was enforced which stated that he could not play more than 30 minutes per match as he represented a serious health hazard to opposition players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭SomeFool


    Did Tom Court roll over your cat or something? You've posted this sarcastic tripe once or twice now and it's a touch unwarranted. Personally I think we're lucky to have a bench option that can cover both sides reasonably, not a starting standard tighthead or anything but a great squad player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Gordon Gecko


    SomeFool wrote: »
    Did Tom Court roll over your cat or something? You've posted this sarcastic tripe once or twice now and it's a touch unwarranted. Personally I think we're lucky to have a bench option that can cover both sides reasonably, not a starting standard tighthead or anything but a great squad player.

    Hey! I didn't criticise your team selection!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    I'd love to see a Ryder Cup of Rugby.
    Every second year there's a tournament. One year in north 2 years later the south. Northern Hemisphere vs southern Hemisphere. I think that'd be a really good match. Three matches, one country hosting, minimum of two stadia used. It would be good IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Gordon Gecko


    Didn't they have a North vs South match in aid of the tsunami in Sri Lanka a few years back? Sounds like a good idea but then again I doubt the players would be that bothered with it given the already hectic schedule


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Cpt_Blackbeard


    BOHtox wrote: »
    I'd love to see a Ryder Cup of Rugby.
    Every second year there's a tournament. One year in north 2 years later the south. Northern Hemisphere vs southern Hemisphere. I think that'd be a really good match. Three matches, one country hosting, minimum of two stadia used. It would be good IMO

    Isn't that pretty much what the Lions are in the Rugby World? The NH would lose 9 times out of 10 anyway.


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