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Do you say "poem" or "poyme"?

  • 19-03-2011 2:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    How do you pronounce "poem"?

    Does it rhyme with "home" or "point"?

    I've noticed a lot of Irish people seem to shorten it to one syllable and add a sort of "oy" sound which sounds... Weird.

    How do you pronounce it? 64 votes

    "pome" (rhymes with home, done, etc)
    0% 0 votes
    "poim" (sounds like coil, moyne, etc)
    100% 64 votes


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I say ode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭pockets3d


    How do you pronounce "poem"?

    Does it rhyme with "home" or "point"?

    I've noticed a lot of Irish people seem to shorten it to one syllable and add a sort of "oy" sound which sounds... Weird.


    Does it matter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    How the hell does any word spelt like point sound anything like poem?

    Also, I don't know anyone who says poyme (I'm reading it as poy-me)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    How do you pronounce "poem"?

    Does it rhyme with "home" or "point"?

    I've noticed a lot of Irish people seem to shorten it to one syllable and add a sort of "oy" sound which sounds... Weird.

    What???

    Poyme rhymes with point? Done and home sound like each other? Coil and moyne?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    English teachers around the globe are facepalming and crying bitterly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    Poem
    Rhymes with Know Him


    See what I did?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Po-um. I wouldn't say 'pome' or 'poyme.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Devil08


    home and done do not rhyme. they are spelt similarly but do not rhyme. This thread is fkuced on so many levels.


    Sconn or Scone?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    English teachers around the globe are facepalming and crying bitterly.

    Primary School teachers are notorious for pronouncing the word poem to rhyme with "coin".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Po (as in go)-im


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    rap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    As a word with two syllables unless I'm using it in a poem and going with 'po'm' preserves the meter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭blockedPaT


    i say poem never heard of poyme


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭pow wow


    I thought option 2 in the thread title was what it sounds like with New Jersey accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    Po-wum or po-wem, not sure really. Had an English teacher who would insist on saying po-em, with a little breather in between to really exaggerate the pronunciation. I wouldn't have minded, only he said 'fillum' instead of 'film' all the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    I say 'pome'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭tricks


    Sorry what


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    [X] thread is in bits


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    TPD wrote: »
    I wouldn't have minded, only he said 'fillum' instead of 'film' all the time.

    Ehhh...don't we all?? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Jeanious


    Eh, let me attempt to clarify on behalf of the OP. The first versions is pronounced "po-um". The second version is kinda like "poy-im" or "poym".

    To answer the question, the only people ive ever heard saying "poy-im" are w@nkery English teachers at my erstwhile secondary school, so i, like most others, would pronounce it "po-um".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Ehhh...don't we all?? :confused:

    Not all of you.. I think I've met one or two Irish who say it properly :pac:

    I really don't get how 'film' turns into 'fillum' in Ireland though. There's clearly no 'u' in 'film,' so where did it come from?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Layla Wrong Tail


    I say po-em and fillum :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭snickerpuss


    Trying to imagine the word poem sounding like coil is hurting my brain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    liah wrote: »
    Not all of you.. I think I've met one or two Irish who say it properly :pac:

    I really don't get how 'film' turns into 'fillum' in Ireland though. There's clearly no 'u' in 'film,' so where did it come from?

    Gaeilge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    FTGFOP wrote: »
    Gaeilge.
    The word for film is scannán...

    What does scannán have to do with people saying fill-um?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭tricks


    The word for film is scannán...

    What does scannán have to do with people saying fill-um?

    At least it's not movie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Ehhh...don't we all?? :confused:

    I never pronounce film as 'fillum'. So, no.

    As for this thread, what the fuck?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Asphyxia


    baz2009 wrote: »
    I say 'pome'.

    I also pronounce it like that :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    po-em and the pictures! :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭AFC_1903


    "poim" (sounds like coil, moyne, etc)

    Two people speak like this? Wow. If Elmer Fudd has to be one of them, but who's the other one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    The word for film is scannán...

    What does scannán have to do with people saying fill-um?

    Nothing.

    When I offered 'Gaeilge' as an explanation for the two-syllable pronunciation of 'film' I meant that it came from Gaelic influence on Irish English. I did some googling and more specifically it's:
    Hidden vowels
    Most people will have noticed that many Irish people pronounce the word film as fil’um. This is actually a transference of Irish pronunciation rules. When l, n or r are followed by b, bh, ch, g (not after n), m, or mh, and is preceded by a short stressed vowel, an additional vowel is heard between them. For example, bolg (stomach) is pronounced bol’ag; garbh (rough) is gar’ev; dorcha (dark) is dor’ach’a; gorm (blue) is gor’um, and ainm (name) is an’im.

    Source


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    I think grammer nazi's need their owyn forum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    ^what's that apostrophe doing there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    And so begins my poem,
    will I ever get it done...




    ...crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    AB AB can save it, buddy!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    FTGFOP wrote: »
    AB AB can save it, buddy!

    no its AB AB bridge A outro:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Novella wrote: »
    I never pronounce film as 'fillum'. So, no.

    As for this thread, what the fuck?

    Ah right...it was a genuine question...I always thought everyone said fillum...I do anyway. Filmmmmm as one syllable is humanly impossible for me...is it a Dublin thing maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    FTGFOP wrote: »
    Nothing.

    When I offered 'Gaeilge' as an explanation for the two-syllable pronunciation of 'film' I meant that it came from Gaelic influence on Irish English. I did some googling and more specifically it's:



    Source

    Thanks for that. Fascinating stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I say po-em and fillum :(

    Be proud of your Hiberno-English, Bluewolf!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭wurzlitzer


    Ah-hem
    po-em


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Saila wrote: »
    I think grammer nazi's need their owyn forum

    Surely you mean fow-rym?

    I've never heard of either of the OP's versions.

    It's poh-ehm.


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