Heading on a bike trip to France!! :-D

Zascar

Next month me and a mate are getting the boat to France - we have a few friends down south around Nice, so taking the bikes over and going to ride around the place for a week - really looking forward to it! I have never really done any proper tours before so just wondering if you guys have any tips?

8 Days in total, just under 1000 miles each way. Considering my bike only does 120 miles between refuelling that's a lot of stops! Going to get down to Nice as fast as possible as we've plenty to see and do down there. Going to pack pretty light I think, we won't need to much for a week. Might get some panniers but not sure might just take a backpack. Are there any other things I will need? Weather should be good, not too hot in April/May.

Anyone done this type of thing before?
Colly

rameire

get a tank bag next week in Lidl.
also get tyre weld.
maybe get a service in,
get oil filters, air filter and breaks checked and or changed.

Fill up on premium unleaded for the first major leg of the journey.
when i went to london last year I filled up with premium and for some reason the bike seemed to run alot smoother for the whole journey.

Antiquo

Zascar wrote: »

Next month me and a mate are getting the boat to France - we have a few friends down south around Nice, so taking the bikes over and going to ride around the place for a week - really looking forward to it! I have never really done any proper tours before so just wondering if you guys have any tips?

8 Days in total, just under 1000 miles each way. Considering my bike only does 120 miles between refuelling that's a lot of stops! Going to get down to Nice as fast as possible as we've plenty to see and do down there. Going to pack pretty light I think, we won't need to much for a week. Might get some panniers but not sure might just take a backpack. Are there any other things I will need? Weather should be good, not too hot in April/May.

Anyone done this type of thing before?
Colly

IMO a backpack is a bummer on long trips wears you down in no time tank bag and panniers with a pack on the rear seat.

Tool kit a must have with basic first aid (if ya cut yer finger a plaster can stop the bleeding or you can bleed all over the place while riding to the nearest garage/shop)

It can get wet and cold in April through France so wet gear and warm gear a must hence the baggage space.

Shades and spare visor.

Don't do as my mate did set off with a black visor and get off the friggin ferry in the dark trying to drive on motorways with the visor up not recomended - fruggin muppet you should've seen his eyes the next couple o days we called him mixi (as in miximitosis/myxomatosis rabbit disease) for the trip

As R said service, poss new tyres and thorough check over afore ya set off.

Fit a scotoiler if ya have'nt got one

A couple of the bike mags keep redoing the France/Europe checklist thing every year got on to visordown, etc and get yourself a comprehensive doc's an all checklist.

Looky Bar Steward

Good Luck

Bosh

Originals & copies of: D/licence, insurance & registration cert.

Passport, E111 card & travel insurance - Blue do good deals & include biking in allowed activities

Bicycle cable lock to secure brain bucket to bike when you go walkabout.

Travel as light as you can, the shirt you wear tonight will do on the bike tomorrow..

Spare bulbs & first aid kit - legal requirement in France.

Headlight adjustment tape if you intend riding at night

Tools - 8, 10, 12 & 13mm spanners, dual screwdriver & allen keys or at the minimum a bunch of cable ties & small roll duct tape - 'cos you just never know!

Phone & camera charger, stick map in tankbag & away you go!:D

You'd be mad to use a backpack, it will kill you after a few days. Proper luggage is the way to go, for comfort, convenience & security. At minimum sports bag in bin liner bungeed to pillion seat.

Fill up Saturday evening, petrol stations off the beaten track can be problematic in France on Sundays.

Enjoy, there's nothing in the world like your first trip away

TheUsual

Cheap foam earplugs. (lots of them)

They make a big difference when doing big miles on motorways.

Bykobap

Last year i went from Drogheda via Rosslare-France-Italy-Croatia to Serbia on my Yamaha Neos 49cc and back through Hungary-Austria-Germany-France.
13 days on the road, 12 hours-500km of :cool: nearly every day. 5600km in total.
Avoid motorways if you can and try not to over plan for it takes away from the whole experience in my opinion.
Petrol stations are rare in France so a spare canister wouldn't be a bad idea and they tend to close early 6-7-8 pm.
I slept on the public benches along the way no bother, the budget was tight. Mcdonalds in France has a free WiFi.
Do see Normandy if you can, Omaha beach and that.
Try and enjoy it, you'll be grand.

thewintermute

I would second all the above advice. I used to live in Nice and have biked there and back a few times. Comfort is king. No backpack. Strap it to the seat if needs be. Lidl tankbag isn't up to much. Ensure you place a soft cloth under the tank bag to prtect your paint. Petrol is expensive even by our standards and motorways are really tiring unless you have a lot of ccs under your ass. (I've done it both ways, by Vespas and on a blackbird) the national routes are much nicer and save money on tolls and petrol, you will eat far better. I usually headed for la flèche on day 1 then on to Avignon the next day and you can arrive fresh on the med the next morning with only one days hard riding. It's better to plan your overnight rather than pushing on to wind up spending the night in a dump. Find the railway station in any small town and get a room in a bar or cafe for very little money. Usually kinda quirkey but interesting. Forget about maximum miles and enjoy the ride down. The road from St Raphael to vengtimiglia in Italy is a must. Take the moyenne corniche out of nice up over Monaco it's less crowded. Coast road to St raph via theoule and back through the woods and arriere pays is one of the best rides in Europe. For a day trip it's a magic ride up to the col de la bonnette. Highest road in europe. Easily done In day from nice, but check the forecast and bring warm clothes. If you have a carbed bike you may have to adjust slightly for altitude. Enjoy.

P.C.

One thing that is very important is that you must let the bike carry the weight.
Don't put a backpack on your back - put it on the rear seat with bunge cords.

And foot powder.
Your feet sweat a lot on those long days. The correct foot powder will keep them dry.
Ask at your local chemist if they can recomend a decent foot powder.

unclebill98

From the list stuff mentioned so far you better take the car!

:-)

positron

Bykobap wrote: »

Last year i went from Drogheda via Rosslare-France-Italy-Croatia to Serbia on my Yamaha Neos 49cc and back through Hungary-Austria-Germany-France. 13 days on the road, 12 hours-500km of :cool: nearly every day. 5600km in total.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Unbelievable!! Fair play to you!!

Zascar

Thanks for the replies guys I just got a service from Bert in RPM in Tallaght, really sound bloke and gave me a great deal too. I'm going to borrow some panniers from a mate and not bother with a backpack. My tank is carbon so I need a non-magnetic tank bag. They seem pretty dam expensive though!

One thing I forgot: I'm insured with Quinn. I have breakdown cover but does anyone if it includes, or can be extended to include overseas? I assume my insurance already does, they said I was fine to go to the Isle of Man last year anyway.

I've planned out two possible maps: http://goo.gl/maps/QeLq - http://goo.gl/maps/PJiB - not sure which route to take. I'm told there are a lot of toll roads on the motorways in France and they can get very very expensive. Not sure which routes have them though I'd prefer to take slightly longer to get there on smaller roads with better scenery etc. Sitting at 120km for sever hours on the go on my bike will not be much fun really.

SonOfPerdition

it's useful to have a credit card with you in case you need fuel and the only one is an unmanned station. This happened to me late on a sunday evening as i rode across france solo to meetup with some friends and i was down to fumes. Luckily I had the wifes card with me and after some help from local riders to show me what to do i got fuel. It's the simple things that can catch you out.

Paparazzo

Bring your summer and winter gloves. Nothing better than when you're on a long drive when it gets too hot to be able to change to your lighter gloves and vice versa.

I've done one big tour, and if i'm going on another one i'm booking my accommodation in advance so you have targets to get to each day. I didn't do that and you can spend a long time looking for a place with vacancies. Pain in the hole if you just want to stop driving, it's raining, late and you're arse is sore!

alanmcqueen

positron wrote: »

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Unbelievable!! Fair play to you!!

Yes, agreed, unbelievable. F*ck Ewan McGregor, that's a serious trip.:cool:

Spudmonkey

If you are driving to Nice, drive through the Verdon Gorge. It's spectacular and a haven for bikers. As soon as I came home I started making plans for bike touring based on that one spot!!

grumpybore

Good advice here ......be very careful about the petrol stations ,almost ran out of petrol last easter near Normandy .....some stations are card only .....then there are those that are card only ,but not chip and pin. I agree with the poster who says to book accom in advacne .One of my travelling buddies starts to get edgy if we havent got somewhere booked ,and if not will start looking at midday !! ...not a recipie for covering much mileage .

Having said that ,France is a wonderful place to bike in .....an off again this easter (60 year old bike .....plenty of spares ,and a few prayers)


Enjoy

Bykobap

positron wrote: »

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Unbelievable!! Fair play to you!!

I kept talking to her through out the trip, she never felt lazy or squealed on me. I was promising her a spark plug since Serbia. Bought her for e360, 05 reg. When i saw the Alps i felt inferior, she ate it no bother to her. OP, French do speak English but in French though, from my experience anyway. Priceless trip really. Would post pics but i am too lazy to find out how to do it.

doc crock

Spudmonkey wrote: »

If you are driving to Nice, drive through the Verdon Gorge. It's spectacular and a haven for bikers. As soon as I came home I started making plans for bike touring based on that one spot!!

Lots of good advice here but spuds is so true ! Been through the Gorge on the bike and is just fantastic!!!!

Spudmonkey

doc crock wrote: »

Lots of good advice here but spuds is so true ! Been through the Gorge on the bike and is just fantastic!!!!

He can thank me afterwards!!!

Zascar

Thanks for the replies guys! Getting all organised now, have a few things to buy like earplugs and summer gloves too. Got some panniers which fit great, might try to find another that will go on either the back -on top of the panniers, or on the tank.

Thanks for the recommendation of the Verdon Gorge - looks incredible! We're going to be heading to nice first, then to another place part Marseille, and then on to Montpellier. If there are any other places that would be worth visiting please let me know!

Two things I have not yet done are travel insurance and breakdown cover. Any recommendations?

P.C.

Zascar wrote: »

Two things I have not yet done are travel insurance and breakdown cover. Any recommendations?

For travel insurance, try:
http://www.blueinsurance.ie/
Just make sure that you select grade 3 for Hazardous Activities - this covers you for Motor bike riding.

faceman

Make sure you apply for your European health insurance card which replaced the E111. It's free to apply for. www.ehic.ie. It's essential for a trip like this

Also don't forget the headlight adjustment tape. Legal requirement in France.

Zascar

Thanks, any idea where I get that?

grumpybore

Breakdown cover

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this should be included with your insurance policy ,if its not ,change insurers .I am with AON and before i head off ,I call them (as required ) and tell them which country I am going to . There is no charge for this ,but be sure to put the contact number in your phone , and keep a ptotocopy of your policy.


....oh and take your time , enjoy the sceenery ,touring should be just that ,touring ....any faster and its just racing

faceman

Zascar wrote: »

Thanks, any idea where I get that?

You might have some joy in Halfords. I think they sell them for cars

CJhaughey

Zascar wrote: »

Thanks, any idea where I get that?

I know Brittany ferries usually have them in their shop onboard.

Zascar

doc crock wrote: »

Lots of good advice here but spuds is so true ! Been through the Gorge on the bike and is just fantastic!!!!

I am definitely going there, looks incredible, thanks spudmonkey!

Also going to go see the Millau Viaduct

rymus

lucky fecker. Wish I was heading off. Have to wait until August then going over for 10 days though

Do report back on what you've seen and any interesting bits. Last time I was over I camped down the west coast and hoteled up the midlands as far as Paris.

varadero

Hi there, i done round trip of france 2 years ago, czech rep this year i think, ive full set of givi panniers for sale if you or anyone else is interested, 250 euro, proper topbox too,the rack i have is for sv1000 but you can get givi rack for nearly all bikes, check out Formula 1 hotels, room to sleep 3 for thirty euro if your on a budget, they are all over france, good set of oilskins for over your leathers or cordura, 2 piece best , far easier and quicker to pull on than i piece, 0879923679 is my number if you need any more info or advice, regards paul

KamiKazi

Enjoy the trip Zascar, it sounds like a good one.

TheUsual

Enjoy.
(And watch when riding the fast lane in France for German drivers, they come up on you at savage speeds)

Jammy bastad !!! :pac:

Zascar

Well lads I just got back. Was a great trip, I’m exhausted. Did over 3000km in the end, almost a complete loop of France. Had a great time but it was pretty tough going at times. New bike is definitely on the horizon as doing serious milage on a naked bike is not much fun. My mates bike broke down on the first day, dirty fuel we think, but we got it going again, but lost most of the day. The 2nd day we had to do 850km to keep to schedule. 13 hours on the bike, very tough going, but some incredible mountain roads for the last 2 hours which made it all worthwhile.

Spudmonkey thanks so much for the recommendation on the Gorge Du Verdon – it was incredible. We did the mountain road all the way to the top and then over the back and into Antibes. It was incredible! Although it rained for the afternoon which sucked. Still had fun though, the roads were spectacular all over the place, you could go for hours without a single bump in the road. Autoroutes were like glass. Not much fun doing 130-150kph for hours and hours on the go though. No wind protection on my bike and its seriously hard going. Deffo going to get a sports tourer next. Last day it rained all day and we got soaked through, we had a boat to catch so had to keep going. Thankfully it stopped and we dried out eventually.

Definitely want to do more touring but I’d do it differently next time. Long boring drives on motorways are not much fun but it kind of had to be done to get to the places we needed to see out mates etc. Still, next time I’d take more time, do less distance but better and nicer roads – and on a better bike too haha

I would definitely recommend it though, anyone thinking of it – stop thinking and just do it!

grumpybore

Wow ,sounds like a great trip , albeit a bit manic. I am just back from a week in Brittany on my classic bike ,1000 miles in a week ,almost all of it on small back roads at about 40 mph . Miles and miles passed by without seeing another soul ....wonderful . Dont knock riding a naked bike ,its pure motorcycling , knees in the breeze sort of stuff. Just allow plenty of time to get anywhere. Each time I stopped I ended up in conversation with someone ....you dont get that on motorways at warp factor 4 .

Wossack

great stuff zascar!

what bikes your mate on? (or has it been mentioned in the thread already?)

Zascar

Sorry, Ducati Monster 620. She held up well but my mate was on a 1000cc Aprilia. His easy cruising speed was was way above mine.

I'm thinking about a Honda VFR800 VTEC - lovely in white but they are expensive..

turbodiesel

Zascar wrote: »

Sorry, Ducati Monster 620. She held up well but my mate was on a 1000cc Aprilia. His easy cruising speed was was way above mine.

I'm thinking about a Honda VFR800 VTEC - lovely in white but they are expensive..

What about this...

http://www.carpe-tdm.net/ipb/index.php?showtopic=21334

I'm on my third one so I'm biased but they are a great allrounder....

Zascar

Thanks. I think I'll start another thread so to keep this one on topic.

Ok one thing I forgot to mention, my make had the Garmin motorbike GPS. Absolutely invaluable. Seriously I just cannot imagine doing this trip without it and having to pull over and look at maps all the time. Anyone going on a trip even a cheap satnav could be worth its weight in gold. Just knowing where the nearest petrol station is (I never nearly ran out of petrol once and it saved us) or down to finding things around you etc, really brilliant.

Del2005

I know this is an old thread but decided to revive it as it could be helpful keep the info in the same thread.

I'm heading to France shortly and have a few questions. Are tinted/dark visors legal in France, I'll be carrying a clear visor also if it makes any difference, and have they brought in the high viz law for bikers yet?

I have been googling to try and find an answer, but all I can find are post from years ago on the visor and found this about the high viz, which looks like it'll be 2012. I'll still stick a viz in my luggage in case of breakdowns.