Changes in HSE structure and doctor's pay?

DessieMG

With the proposed changes in the HSE by Labour and Fine Gael and talk of capping public sector wages at 200,000 would this mean that consultants and GP's would be hit, does his mean that it would be less financially advantageous to do medicine since it is a very demanding job and requires you to make a lot of sacrifices?

Doom

Why not enter medical profession because you want to help....not to be well off

DessieMG

I was just asking...why not learn some irish...''mo theach''

looksee

Which particular doctor are you referring to?

dissed doc

DessieMG wrote: »

With the proposed changes in the HSE by Labour and Fine Gael and talk of capping public sector wages at 200,000 would this mean that consultants and GP's would be hit, does his mean that it would be less financially advantageous to do medicine since it is a very demanding job and requires you to make a lot of sacrifices?

Probably wouldn't make much difference - public consultant salaries are restricted to €155k max as if 1st Jan. 2011. Most likely would encourage people to work in group practices or private hospitals with insurance company contracts.

DessieMG

looksee wrote: »

Which particular doctor are you referring to?

what do you mean?

irishh_bob

DessieMG wrote: »

With the proposed changes in the HSE by Labour and Fine Gael and talk of capping public sector wages at 200,000 would this mean that consultants and GP's would be hit, does his mean that it would be less financially advantageous to do medicine since it is a very demanding job and requires you to make a lot of sacrifices?

doctors in ireland beit consultants or GP,s are extremley wealthy by international standards , last i heard , they were second in the world only to the united states , GP,s are private sector ( albeit thier sector is completley sheltered from competition ) so i cant see any public sector pay caps effecting them , hopefully the goverment will tackle this closed shop in other ways

as for sacrafices , what sacrafices do they make that marks them out from any other occupation

irishh_bob

Doom wrote: »

Why not enter medical profession because you want to help....not to be well off

the old exception rather than the rule phenomenon

Piste

I don't think it's a bad idea, so many people want to do medicine, if you cut out everyone who's only in it for the money you'll still have plenty of people who'll make good doctors and will be capable of getting through med school.

Rubik.

In a report into doing business in Ireland the National Competitive Council found the Irish doctors receive the highest average salary in the OECD(excluding the US) - 194,000 euros.

Doom

DessieMG wrote: »

I was just asking...why not learn some irish...''mo theach''

That last part is a bit childish.......grow up

Chuck Stone

DessieMG wrote: »

With the proposed changes in the HSE by Labour and Fine Gael and talk of capping public sector wages at 200,000 would this mean that consultants and GP's would be hit, does his mean that it would be less financially advantageous to do medicine since it is a very demanding job and requires you to make a lot of sacrifices?

They should just double the number of GP's and consultants qualifying and allow public and private patients to move freely between them.

This would make it less demanding on the poor souls so they needn't make so many sacrifices.

That way the good GP's & Consultants who offered value for money would keep their customers.

Also, it would help weed out a lot of the people who's motivations are guided by finacial return and status rather than peoples health.

irishh_bob

Piste wrote: »

I don't think it's a bad idea, so many people want to do medicine, if you cut out everyone who's only in it for the money you'll still have plenty of people who'll make good doctors and will be capable of getting through med school.

unfortunatley the majority of doctors are in it for the money , the rest are in it for social status and because they come from doctor stock and its expected of them

irishh_bob

Chuck Stone wrote: »

They should just double the number of GP's and consultants qualifying and allow public and private patients to move freely between them.

This would make it less demanding on the poor souls so they needn't make so many sacrifices.

That way the good GP's & Consultants who offered value for money would keep their customers.

Also, it would help weed out a lot of the people who's motivations are guided by finacial return and status rather than peoples health.

if you contributed a post like the above in the health sciences forum , courteosy of SAM or TALLAGHT , the thread would be locked faster than you can say MICKEY MOUSE ( 220 K PER YEAR ) MONEY

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micd

All very well and good saying that consultants are overpaid...but the NCHDs that do the bulk of the work in Ireland's hospitals are getting barely minimum wage if you calculate look at their annual salary on an average per-hour-worked basis. Certainly when I was working as a porter in one of the Dublin hospitals during the summer I was earning more per hour than alot of the on-call docs.