Scum (1979)

DeadMoney

Hey, anybody ever seen this movie directed by Alan Clarke? I hadn't even heard about it until the other day when I stumbled across it while reading an article about Ray Winstone. Its one of the most violent, if not the most violent movie I have ever seen. Some really good acting from young British actors at the time and a good movie but Jesus it is harsh. And the version I saw had some parts cut out so I haven't even seen the original cut.

pulpfictionost

DeadMoney wrote: »

Hey, anybody ever seen this movie directed by Alan Clarke? I hadn't even heard about it until the other day when I stumbled across it while reading an article about Ray Winstone. Its one of the most violent, if not the most violent movie I have ever seen. Some really good acting from young British actors at the time and a good movie but Jesus it is harsh. And the version I saw had some parts cut out so I haven't even seen the original cut.

Is that the one in the boarding school?

I thought it was terrible

petes

pulpfictionost wrote: »

Is that the one in the boarding school?

I thought it was terrible

Young offenders prison I think. Was fairly grim now that I remember it but compelling viewing!

sensibleken

pulpfictionost wrote: »

Is that the one in the boarding school?

I thought it was terrible

A borstal

I didn't think it was hugely violent but its a classic all the same

old hippy

Seen both versions, one of them has a young David Threlfal (Frank from Shameless) in it.

I think Clarke was behind "The Firm" with Gary Oldman, which I find the more mature of the two films, both of which are powerful studies in male violence.

Ash.J.Williams

I'M THE DADDY NOW!

bullpost

Are you thinking of "If"? :

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063850/

pulpfictionost wrote: »

Is that the one in the boarding school?

I thought it was terrible

mike65

The 1979 film version of Scum is on ITV4 quite often. Amusing the see Ray Winstone looking so darned young and small.

old hippy

mike65 wrote: »

The 1979 film version of Scum is on ITV4 quite often. Amusing the see Ray Winstone looking so darned young and small.

Wouldn't say that to his character, mind

livlondon

Did you bring your Tool?

I'll never forget the bit in the canteen when all the kids start slowly increasing in volume and then just erupt.

amazing

DeadMoney

Yeah the movie has some great moments & I particularly liked the character Albert and his intellectual wit. Still not sure about the ending though but it definitely leaves it mark.

Duggy747

Haven't watched this film in a few years, wierd novelty to see a young, whipper-snapper Ray Winstone.

p to the e

Saw the Uncut version a few years ago. Oh the rapeage. I'll never look at a green house in the same way again.

rednik

Scum is a very good but very brutal film for the time it was made. I saw it in the early eighties and just after I saw it I went to see Bad Boys with Sean Penn which is very similar, in one scene the

pool balls are swapped for cans

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Nolanger

Wasn't there a women's version made of Scum called Scrubbers?

mike65

1983, made by Mai Zetterling.

saintsaltynuts

Im a big film fan. I've only watched about twenty films that i would give full marks too but this is one of them.Compelling,gripping and fist full on from the word go.This was a remake from a 1977 T.V. version and boasts an un-official sequel called That Summer(1979) starring Ray Winstone.Good luck finding it though.Get a film called Everything (2004) in the meantime with Ray in it it's a gem.

DeadMoney

RopeDrink wrote: »

Great classic movie - Recently watched the remake "Doghouse", wasn't aware of it actually being a remake until I read the Wiki, not entirely copy/paste but the scenes and events were all similar, enough for the unaware to immediately think of SCUM.

What was the movie like? Haha I ****ing hate Danny Dyer and the movies he's in. Something so tasteless and tacky about him as an actor. I can see he's clearly influenced by movies like Scum and I guess he's the 'new generation' of British social realism in movies but he just doesn't do it for me. Scum however is a really great depiction of this and Winstone is brilliant.

seanybiker

Good film. Wouldn't find it that violent though. Few of the lads from the bill in it

fryup

its grim, its harsh, its disturbing and it left a mark on me when i saw it all them years ago..

"up your borstal"