A career in Aviation Management?

corkman123

Anyone know the options available for a graduate interested in a career in Aviation Management or Aviation in general? i know theres a postgrad course in coventry but costs 10k! Was wondering if there are many interships or airlines/ airport authorities in Ireland or europe that take on graduates?

PILOT

Im actually trying to do the same at the minute. Im currently studying for a degree in Airline and Airport Management in England and looking for a graduate trainee scheme.

With regards to a management scheme the DAA usually do one but didn't for 2010-2011, so im guessing it has been droped.

Outside of Ireland its much easier to find these. People like the Star Alliance take on people in Frankfurt. Also Lufthansa take on a lot of people on 1-2 year internships etc ( but you need to know German)

With regards to a Masters/Postgrad University of Limerick do a 2 year Msc in Aviation Management, then in England people who do Aviation include: London Met Uni, Cranfield, Bucks new Uni etc.

Could be worth trying to get into the Aviation leasing companies such as RBS aviation etc how have a major operation in Ireland

corkman123

ye... id say it would be hard to find something in ireland, im only doing a standard arts degree at mo though.. dont know where that could bring me in the aviation industry.. any ideas of the price of the masters degree in limerick?

David086

DCU do an Aviation Management with pilot studies, it's fairly new I think.

http://www.dcu.ie/prospective/deginfo.php?classname=AMPS&originating_school=50

Tenger

corkman123 wrote: »

ye... id say it would be hard to find something in ireland, im only doing a standard arts degree at mo though.. dont know where that could bring me in the aviation industry.. any ideas of the price of the masters degree in limerick?

DCU had a course that called itself Aviation Mgmt. Not sure if it is avail this Sep though. It was basically a Business Mgmt course with an aviation slant, I think a PPL was included in the syllabus. Candidates had to find their own work experience in the Summer. Year 1 was a normal Business mgmt course, aviation Law was mainly focused in Year 2,

donkey balls

From my experience working in Dub airport most of the mgmt in companies I know including myself worked our way up the ladder,There was guys who went directly into the likes of FR/EI and other ground handling companies but they had previous experience in the industry.
And trust me everyone in the industry knows each other maybe it's different for the likes of bean counters& back office staff like admin etc.

Snow Leopard

DCU had a course that called itself Aviation Mgmt. Not sure if it is avail this Sep though. It was basically a Business Mgmt course with an aviation slant, I think a PPL was included in the syllabus. Candidates had to find their own work experience in the Summer. Year 1 was a normal Business mgmt course, aviation Law was mainly focused in Year 2,

There's hasn't been a Year 2, the course was only launched last September.

Tenger

Snow Leopard wrote: »

There's hasn't been a Year 2, the course was only launched last September.

I didn't mean to give the past tense impression......
I read the course prospectus about 12 months ago. It outlined how this course could 'help you become the next Willie Walsh'. As it was a while ago my memory may be fuzzy or the course program itself may have changed.

PILOT

Iv been talking to people high up in the recruitment department in both Easyjet and Virgin Atlantic today and just decided to ask about a master degree.

Both basically said that an Aviation Management masters degree makes more of an impression on them. You said you do a general Arts degree, if you do business or economics or something along the lines of that then you are qualified enough to get into any of the Graduate Trainee schemes......:)

kronsington

Hi this may not be the right place but I was wondering if anyone had any advice for someone interested in pursuing a career in aviation finance/law. I am about to qualify as a solicitor and have an economics degree from ucd as well. i know the sector is quite lucrative and i would be interested in getting involved. major drawback is i have no experience in aviation law having come from a relatively small general practice. any advice would be appreciated. thanks

xflyer

From experience many specialists in aviation law are pilots themselves and thus have an interest in that way.

However from your perspective. I would suggest contacting some of the aircraft leasing companies that operate out of Ireland. That would seem a good fit with your economics and law degrees.

This is the FAEI website, not sure how up to date it is but it does list several aviation companies.

http://www.faei.ie/Sectors/FAEI/FAEI.nsf/vPages/Home?OpenDocument

Also contact some of the big corporate law firms here in Ireland. I'll bet some have an aviation specialist or two.

kronsington

xflyer wrote: »

From experience many specialists in aviation law are pilots themselves and thus have an interest in that way.

However from your perspective. I would suggest contacting some of the aircraft leasing companies that operate out of Ireland. That would seem a good fit with your economics and law degrees.

This is the FAEI website, not sure how up to date it is but it does list several aviation companies.

http://www.faei.ie/Sectors/FAEI/FAEI.nsf/vPages/Home?OpenDocument

Also contact some of the big corporate law firms here in Ireland. I'll bet some have an aviation specialist or two.

Thanks for that. Good starting point. I have a friend working in Nordic Aviation and another in GECAS in Shannon so they're good to talk to as well. I'd be interested in even a short term contract/work experience in any leasing firm just to gain some experience and knowledge in the area

GoGoGadget

You should apply for the BA Graduate Management Training Scheme, you can choose what department you want to go in from finance, cargo, general etc

You need a 2:1 at least and pay is around £27k, thing lasts for about 3 years but I'd imagine they hope to keep you on after that and you'd be dropped fairly lively if your muck.

Looks pretty decent, I've just done the online aptitude tests. Most of the programmes are closing for applications or have closed so act quickly!

Also further afield there's the Squire Group (think that's name) which own/part own Cathay and they run some sort of management training schemes within their group.

Not that much here in Ireland, Ryanair did have some sort of management programme a year or two ago and a position of MOL's PA was advertised if you had accountancy experience. I'm sure you'd have to dedicate your life to something like that and put up with copious bull**** but it'll stand to whoever did it, couple of lads did very well being Tony Ryans PA i.e. Denis O'Brien and MOL.

Best of luck with it but I'd imagine looking outside of Ireland is where you'll find the opportunities, look into internships, you'll get paid a small allowance or even nothing but look at putting a value on the experience you'll get depending what it's in.

corkman123

im currently in the middle of an undergraduate degree in geography... dunno how i would get into a postgrad in aviation with that!