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Sunday experimentation.

  • 15-03-2011 8:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭


    ...........STEREO..........
    Finally got to scratch an itch at the weekend and got to experiment with a nice stereo set up, something I've wanted to try for a long time.

    Very basic set up, fellow forumite Ancient1's Hot Rod Deluxe and my THD Univalve with my 1x12. Man, what a sound. Nothing fancy on the effects front, just a Boss chorus and delay using the stereo outputs on the pedals. The sound was absolutely HUGE, and both the chorus and delay sounded absolutely superb swooshing around in stereo like that. I reckon if I was gigging I'd really be trying to justify using a two amp set up like that, albeit maybe on a smaller scale. Maybe two Fender Pro Juniors or something like that, ala Jeff Beck.

    Secondly, and again using Ancient 1's Fender, was to try out my THD Yellow Jackets so we could run his amp with EL84s in Class A. Very impressed. It definitely brought the blistering output from the Hot Rod down a good bit, and crossed over into a Fender/Marshall hybrid type of sound. It lost a bit of the glass and sheen that the 6l6s gave the amp, but replaced it with a very nice throaty roar, with plenty of gain on tap without perforating the eardrums. It's still the same circuit of course, but the valve swap makes quite a tonal difference. We both loved it. A few seconds work, no biasing etc, literally just plug and play. Everyone should experiment with the Yellow Jackets if they get a chance, they're pretty cool.

    Anyway, long post - apologies, just thought I'd share :o.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭nialldabass


    Don't appologise , thanks for sharing, made me smile, good to see people enjoying music and having fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Doc_Savage


    if you enjoyed that try experimenting with a crossover.... split the low frequency's to a bass amp and put the mids and highs (with overdrive/fx) through the guitar amp and only boost the mids on the guitar amp... if that makes sense?

    proper stereo chorus is still one of the most awesome(a very american and horrible word but equally apt) sounds i've ever made myself!:D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Was bored in the rehersal studio one day, before the rest of the band arrived. Took the stereo output from my pedal board, dumped the two channels into the mixing board and panned them hard left and right. Some very cool sounds but not something that'd be practical live. All the sound is still coming from one direction - the stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    Had a very interesting discusion with Michael Manring before about this. He uses a bass with a mini mixer built into the back of the body, he has four outputs from it and has in the past had each string come from a different setup in large venues. He has two strings coming from the stage and two strings coming from behind the audience. I would say its incredible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    boycey wrote: »
    ...........STEREO..........
    Finally got to scratch an itch at the weekend and got to experiment with a nice stereo set up, something I've wanted to try for a long time.

    Very basic set up, fellow forumite Ancient1's Hot Rod Deluxe and my THD Univalve with my 1x12. Man, what a sound. Nothing fancy on the effects front, just a Boss chorus and delay using the stereo outputs on the pedals. The sound was absolutely HUGE, and both the chorus and delay sounded absolutely superb swooshing around in stereo like that. I reckon if I was gigging I'd really be trying to justify using a two amp set up like that, albeit maybe on a smaller scale. Maybe two Fender Pro Juniors or something like that, ala Jeff Beck.
    :o.

    It's like I'm hearing it right now ...... :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Had a very interesting discusion with Michael Manring before about this. He uses a bass with a mini mixer built into the back of the body, he has four outputs from it and has in the past had each string come from a different setup in large venues. He has two strings coming from the stage and two strings coming from behind the audience. I would say its incredible.

    There's an Irish composer called Enda Bates who specialises in spatial music, he's done a few pieces for hexaphonic guitar where he split the 6 outputs from a Roland pickup (the kind for their guitar synth stuff) and had it tuned in a particular way, and you'd play the piece with the guitar into a laptop into 6 loudspeakers, and the use of space around the listener was a part of the composition. I'd love to try that kind of thing.

    He did a thing for four choirs standing at each corner in a room too. Very cool :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭boycey


    punchdrunk wrote: »

    Holy crap!! I'd love to hear that in the intended multi output setting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    a great house party record if you've 4 CD players handy! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭boycey


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    There's an Irish composer called Enda Bates who specialises in spatial music, he's done a few pieces for hexaphonic guitar where he split the 6 outputs from a Roland pickup (the kind for their guitar synth stuff) and had it tuned in a particular way, and you'd play the piece with the guitar into a laptop into 6 loudspeakers, and the use of space around the listener was a part of the composition. I'd love to try that kind of thing.

    He did a thing for four choirs standing at each corner in a room too. Very cool :cool:

    Just been listening to some of his stuff on Youtube, pretty cool. I love when someone points out new music to me, cheers!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭boycey


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    a great house party record if you've 4 CD players handy! :D

    Set that Man Cave of yours up right and invite us all round for Paddys day!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    punchdrunk wrote: »

    I've had a few parties playing that, it's so cool. Great album too, right at the start of the golden era of Flaming Lips, for my money :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    boycey wrote: »
    Just been listening to some of his stuff on Youtube, pretty cool. I love when someone points out new music to me, cheers!

    He lectures in Music Tech at Trinity, I'm hoping to do the masters that he teaches. Really sound guy too, he came out to NUIM to give a talk to the composer's society. I love when someone with a PhD in composition says his biggest influence is My Bloody Valentine :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    boycey wrote: »
    Set that Man Cave of yours up right and invite us all round for Paddys day!!

    I dunno,mate
    I wouldn't trust some of you lot with my NOS spoons...
    ;)


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