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HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY???

  • 13-03-2011 9:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭


    reciently i have decided to make up some garden products but im stuck on prices
    i could do with your help maybe you can tell me
    (1) what price would you be happy to pay for each item
    (2) what is the max price you would pay for each item

    honest answers would be very helpfull + any other comments
    thanks
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    ABOVE PICTURES 2-3 seater planter bench plants not included:)

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    ABOVE PICTURES 3ft window box also medium planter box


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭soundsham


    €80-€90 for 2-3 seater
    €20-€5 for window box or planting box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭THE LINK WALSH


    Id reckon you might squeeze €100 out of the seat thing.

    The window box and planting box look decent,its hard to get nice ones,those would be a winner id say,€20-25 wouldnt seem too bad for one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    thanks guys, good to hear the feedbackicon14.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    if anyone viewing this could please take just a min to reply with what price you would be willing to pay for these items that would be great,
    i will wait for a few more replys before i post the cost of making them and how much i was selling for i dont want to sway the answers i get by posting it just yet
    thanks guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭dixiefly


    €120 for 2-3 seater
    €25 for planter
    €20 for window box


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭tipperary


    Would agree with Dixiefly about what I would pay. That said I would expect the cost to be nearly twice that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Decoda


    €15-20 for the window box
    €25-30 for the planter
    €100-120 for the seat planter

    Nice looking products :)

    Good Luck with the venture

    DC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭jezko


    reciently i have decided to make up some garden products but im stuck on prices
    i could do with your help maybe you can tell me
    (1) what price would you be happy to pay for each item
    (2) what is the max price you would pay for each item

    honest answers would be very helpfull + any other comments
    thanks

    Have you any idea on where you intend to sell them? From your home only???
    Have you approached any Garden centres/Hardware stores ...even if they are there only on display&details ???
    Have a look at what it costs you in Materials and in Manufacturing and indeed designing for each piece. Have you found similar products can you match/better the Price and indeed service?
    You could look at Agri Shows and the like durning the coming summer...Good luck with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 00D91


    Wow they all look great and very well made. Im going to be making a playground for the kids during the summer, do you think you could make Swing sets, wooden sandpits, wooden frames for a slide etc etc ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 JackPerry


    Hi,
    The garden furniture items seem to be well made. However I have another suggestion.I have been looking for Adirondack chairs here in Ireland and cannot seem to fine any. They can be ordered from England but I would prefer to have them made here.
    There are plans available to download on how to construct the chairs but it would be important to use the most authentic plans.
    Maybe you would be interested.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    jezko wrote: »
    Have you any idea on where you intend to sell them? From your home only???
    Have you approached any Garden centres/Hardware stores ...even if they are there only on display&details ???
    Have a look at what it costs you in Materials and in Manufacturing and indeed designing for each piece. Have you found similar products can you match/better the Price and indeed service?
    You could look at Agri Shows and the like durning the coming summer...Good luck with it

    i made a few late last year and displayed them in garden centres local to me but i couldnt ask for money for displaying them so it cost me €€€, i didnt mind much as i thought i would make money back on sales from them displays but only one sold out of 4 displays in 5 months!!! i worked out my costs time etc and did my best to keep costs as low as pos without making them look cheap (more expensive the timber the more i had to charge) i think i found the right balance coz they look good and strong, any shows would be a great way to put the product out there but money being tight i cant afford to take the risk unless i was sure i could make a profit.... how can anyone start a business in our country the way it is!!:(

    thanks for your commentsicon14.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    00D91 wrote: »
    Wow they all look great and very well made. Im going to be making a playground for the kids during the summer, do you think you could make Swing sets, wooden sandpits, wooden frames for a slide etc etc ???

    thanks, i have never been one to turn down work....but ... at the moment im trying to stick to products which im set up to make other products like swing sets, slides would need fixtures fittings which i would need to buy and would cost me more because i dont have a supplier for them. sandpits ya no problem they would be simple to make as they are just timber no problem there
    thanks for you comments :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    JackPerry wrote: »
    Hi,
    The garden furniture items seem to be well made. However I have another suggestion.I have been looking for Adirondack chairs here in Ireland and cannot seem to fine any. They can be ordered from England but I would prefer to have them made here.
    There are plans available to download on how to construct the chairs but it would be important to use the most authentic plans.
    Maybe you would be interested.

    do they work out expensive to import???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭tan11ie


    Seater €70 - €100 I seen the same last year in woodies on special for €65 in fairness yours looks much sturdier! and if you live in Dublin i'd gladly buy one off you.

    Pots - €15 and €20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Staplor


    Decoda wrote: »
    €15-20 for the window box
    €25-30 for the planter
    €100-120 for the seat planter

    Nice looking products :)

    Good Luck with the venture

    DC

    This seems about right to me, maybe a little more if they are treated and weather ready


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    tipperary wrote: »
    Would agree with Dixiefly about what I would pay. That said I would expect the cost to be nearly twice that.

    i presume you mean 'cost' as in what i spend on material??
    i made the first bench but worked out too expensive so the second i used timbers that didnt cost as much but i didnt want to make them from cheap cheap timbers i would rather they look good and last than look cheap and fall apart. so far it seems people dont want to spend that little bit extra for a product that lasts longer and looks better ,,, but i guess people are being more careful how they spend money ...cant blame them
    thanks for comments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 JackPerry


    Kitchen decks, the adirondack chair available in UK costs £90 ( approx. €103) including delivery to Ireland.
    It comes in kit form with all fixings supplied. The majority of the pieces are pre drilled but the remainder have to be done by the buyer. The timber is tanalised and can be left as it is or painted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    tan11ie wrote: »
    Seater €70 - €100 I seen the same last year in woodies on special for €65 in fairness yours looks much sturdier! and if you live in Dublin i'd gladly buy one off you.

    Pots - €15 and €20

    im up against woodies who can sell for half the price they can afford to sell so cheap as they would sell lots more , and you make a good point , what i always say to people cheap mite not last as long as something hand made , i enjoy making these spend a nice amount of time on each bench
    thanks for your comments i can msg you with link to my on-line ad for you to take a look at


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    JackPerry wrote: »
    Kitchen decks, the adirondack chair available in UK costs £90 ( approx. €103) including delivery to Ireland.
    It comes in kit form with all fixings supplied. The majority of the pieces are pre drilled but the remainder have to be done by the buyer. The timber is tanalised and can be left as it is or painted.
    thats not a bad price , whoever makes them has set up machines and maybe a line to run them off quick so they are cost effictive, for me to make just one i would have to figure out best way to make ,make a list of timbers obviously not very cost effictive to make just one or two, very nice chair tho, would be tempted to try 1 see how it looks and what it take to make , if you have internet link for plans i would like to have a look , put it on my list of (things i would like to make)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 JackPerry


    Kitchen Decks.
    See attached pdf. This seems to be one of the better plans and seems to be close to the original design. There are lots of models and plans available but some look fairly shabby. The UK company's version is close to this design. The chairs are American in origin and I understand the best versions are made from cedar.The UK company uses scandanavian redwood.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭tinner777


    how much would you say it would cost to build a large sandpit? 2m square maybe?

    €100 for your seat and €25 for the planters, look good by the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭jezko


    i made a few late last year and displayed them in garden centres local to me but i couldnt ask for money for displaying them so it cost me €€€, i didnt mind much as i thought i would make money back on sales from them displays but only one sold out of 4 displays in 5 months!!! i worked out my costs time etc and did my best to keep costs as low as pos without making them look cheap (more expensive the timber the more i had to charge) i think i found the right balance coz they look good and strong, any shows would be a great way to put the product out there but money being tight i cant afford to take the risk unless i was sure i could make a profit.... how can anyone start a business in our country the way it is!!:(

    thanks for your commentsicon14.gif

    Have you looked into displaying in the likes of ... Bloom... Tullow show, Plough championships etc... I can Imagine it costs a BOMB to get a pitch...
    But maybe as a start up Business (Are you based in a Rural/Urban area? ) You could ask for a special rate ...

    Maybe it's time for these kind of shows to "Show off" New Businesses and Rural/Urban Enterprises not already Well Established as seems to be the Norm.

    You look to have a Great Product that is "IRISH" Made... (Ok so maybe the timber used Might not be..) Can they find a Space to fit in you in??

    (I hope someone in such shows reads this and have a Eureka Moment)

    And if you Did decided to show at these kind of Shows have a Wider selection to display of made goods (Smaller/Cheaper/Better) People Might Buy there and Then and pay for the cost of the Show..

    Another thought .... if you are a customer of BOI ..am sure they had Day's where local business were allowed to display their good/services in local branches ???

    Paddy's Day Another Chance for Local communities to show off local Startup Businesses/Enterprises.. Fixed pitches along a main street and don't Charge a fortune ... it would be in the Interest of the Council to have your business succeed... Rates etc....

    With all these State Agencies that are there to "Help" Us ... Is there None for Start Up Businesses to help show off this kind of Good/Service?

    Farmers Markets... Have some Benches for Shoppers to sit on and have your Details on display ...

    And of course you always have the Internet ....

    Sorry it's Long and winded, Am waiting/looking for my own Eureka Moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭redser7


    Check if there is a local Transiton Towns running. They are great for running car boot sales and market days. Perfect for your type of enterprise. http://transitiontownsireland.ning.com/

    Consider the standard picnic bench with built-in seating. Always in high demand. Know a guy in Shannon who knocks them out and makes a good return through the summer months. He has the process down pat and can knock them out pretty fast and tailor make lengths for people if they need it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭roonimirza


    I am looking for some aswell, if you can PM details, may be I take few please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 la poim


    Hi
    I would be interested in two of your bench planters
    can you PM cost and contact details
    Regards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭holuc


    Expect to pay
    150-170 for the 2/3 seater.
    40 for the 3ft box
    25 for the medium box.

    would like to pay
    100
    25
    15.

    They look fairly well made, are they lined inside so you can put soil in directly rather than having the plants in pots.

    Can you put your prices just to see how much they are!!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Overature


    how much do the materials cost?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    Overature wrote: »
    how much do the materials cost?


    on each bench i would prob make a profit of €45 -€50 materials used , timber - woodglue - screws - pins also picking timber up from sawmill and if i need to deliver i have to take fuel costs into account


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    reciently i have decided to make up some garden products but im stuck on prices
    i could do with your help maybe you can tell me
    (1) what price would you be happy to pay for each item
    (2) what is the max price you would pay for each item

    honest answers would be very helpfull + any other comments
    thanks
    P1020114.jpg?t=1300052177
    P1030096.jpg?t=1300052177
    18may2010007.jpg?t=1300052699
    DSCN3251.jpg?t=1300052699
    ABOVE PICTURES 2-3 seater planter bench plants not included:)

    P1020909.jpg?t=1300052699
    ABOVE PICTURES 3ft window box also medium planter box

    prices are as follows

    planter bench €120

    window box €16 only orders of 3 or more

    medium planter €25 only orders of 2 or more

    i worked out my prices from cost of material, time spent and value for money to the buyer, i tried to keep prices as low as i could without using cheap timbers. i have seen a flatpack version of this product and it didnt seem worth the money it cost (€175) my bench is hand made from raw material with strong timbers and a nice ammount of time went into making it its for sale at €120 which i think is good value.
    where some products say "only orders of two or more" this is because timbers used only come in long lenghts and if i only make 1 i would have alot of material left over so it makes more sense to only sell two or more.

    building downturn has cost me my cabinet making job so im trying something new, if people are interested in what i make i might be lucky and start my own thing going here, garden centres would be a great way to get the products out there , 100% irish made this has to be a plus.
    if anyone wants to order anything just pm me and i will get back to you.
    will they sell ? am i wasting my time??

    lets see what happensicon11.gif heres to the upturn!!!!icon7.gif

    THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLYS


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Overature


    on each bench i would prob make a profit of €45 -€50 materials used , timber - woodglue - screws - pins also picking timber up from sawmill and if i need to deliver i have to take fuel costs into account

    cool, good price and nice to be able to make some profit of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭ABEasy


    Where are you based op?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    ABEasy wrote: »
    Where are you based op?
    portlaoise


  • Subscribers Posts: 5,766 ✭✭✭girl_friday


    What are the dimensions for the planter box? As I think someone asked before is it treated and can you plant directly into it or would you need to use a pot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭dazed+confused


    Great products, excellent pricing, best of luck with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 silvermoon


    What are the dimensions for the planter box? As I think someone asked before is it treated and can you plant directly into it or would you need to use a pot?

    Hi, would be intrested in the bench but would like to know if it is treated?
    Don't really want to have to do it myself :)

    Do you deliver and if so how much extra would that be?

    I am based in Kildare.

    Thanks :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 silvermoon


    Oops also wanted to ask if you did bird tables
    you know the type on legs?

    Can you quote for one too?

    Thanks :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    What are the dimensions for the planter box? As I think someone asked before is it treated and can you plant directly into it or would you need to use a pot?

    DIMENSIONS

    2080MM (82 INCHES) WIDE
    530MM (21INCHES) DEEP
    520MM (20 1/2 INCHES) HIGH

    SEAT AREA 1000MM WIDE (39 INCHES) WIDE

    PLANTING AREA EACH SIDE 1FT X 1FT
    you can plant dircetly but i found it easier to insert a plastic pot less mess when planting flowers but it works either way, all timbers pre treated but i recommend varnishing to protect against our harsh winters
    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    silvermoon wrote: »
    Oops also wanted to ask if you did bird tables
    you know the type on legs?

    Can you quote for one too?

    Thanks :D

    at the moment i dont do bird tables , not a big demand for them as yet


  • Subscribers Posts: 5,766 ✭✭✭girl_friday


    DIMENSIONS

    2080MM (82 INCHES) WIDE
    530MM (21INCHES) DEEP
    520MM (20 1/2 INCHES) HIGH

    SEAT AREA 1000MM WIDE (39 INCHES) WIDE

    PLANTING AREA EACH SIDE 1FT X 1FT
    you can plant dircetly but i found it easier to insert a plastic pot less mess when planting flowers but it works either way, all timbers pre treated but i recommend varnishing to protect against our harsh winters
    thanks

    Thanks for that but it's the medium planter I was asking about, not the bench! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    P1020114.jpg?t=1303653146
    DIMENSIONS

    2080MM (82 INCHES) WIDE
    530MM (21INCHES) DEEP
    520MM (20 1/2 INCHES) HIGH

    SEAT AREA 1000MM WIDE (39 INCHES) WIDE

    PLANTING AREA EACH SIDE 1FT X 1FT
    timbers all pre treated


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  • Subscribers Posts: 5,766 ✭✭✭girl_friday


    P1020909.jpg?t=1300052699
    ABOVE PICTURES 3ft window box also medium planter box

    There seems to be confusion. I am looking for the dimensions of the medium planter box as pictured above with the window box. What are the external dimensions and what is the actual planting area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    sorry i thought you meant the planter box either side of the seating area on bench.
    P1020911.jpg?t=1303655251
    14INS (355MM) SQ POT 15INS(380MM) HIGH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭chuchyface


    Hi,

    Was wonder if you have added anything new to your range ? Really the reason I ask is because I have recently been looking at Herb Wheels and would love one but can't find any for sale in Dublin.

    Would they be something you may add to your stock ?

    By the way everyone greatly admires the 2 benches I purchased from you, Thanks Again.

    164640.jpg

    164641.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭kitchens decks


    chuchyface wrote: »
    Hi,

    Was wonder if you have added anything new to your range ? Really the reason I ask is because I have recently been looking at Herb Wheels and would love one but can't find any for sale in Dublin.

    Would they be something you may add to your stock ?

    By the way everyone greatly admires the 2 benches I purchased from you, Thanks Again.

    164640.jpg

    164641.jpg
    thanks, i have never seen these before , i would like to get into making bits like this and its even better that people suggest them that way i know they would sell!! picture 1 would be easy enough to make and would prob be more cost effective , picture 2 is a very nice piece would take alot more time to make and work out more expensive, i could make picture 1 no problem and wouldnt be too expensive i can see its the height of a deck board maybe you can give me an overall width measurement and i could make them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭chuchyface


    I knew picture 2 would involve too much work but as you say it's a nice piece. The one in picture 1 measures 750mm x 650mm x 165mm but I think I would like it a little bigger than that, maybe 850mm across ? I also think 165mm is a little bigger than a standard deck board but am not sure and maybe you could advise on that, however I do think it would need to be at least that depth in order for the plants to have enough room.

    Let me know what you think and if you could give me a price I would be very grateful!:)


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