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Should i move schools next Sep. so i can skip T.Y?
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13-03-2011 9:06pm#1
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Deleted User wrote: »You switched schools before?
Is it difficult to fit in after being so used to your old school?
I enjoyed the change personally and it was nice meeting a whole new bunch of people. I'm still best friends with girls from the first secondary school I was at
You've only been in your old school 3 years, it hasnt been forever
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I might have mislead you a bit .. If you choose to skip ty you have to do pass in all subjects. Your subjects are also chosen for you. Its just to accomodate people who want to leave school as quickly as possible with a leaving cert. Our guidance councilller described it as an opyion for weak student.. For students who want to skip ty and do the subjects they want in the level they want would have to go to a different school or just put up with ty . I hope that explains it betterHi Darragh. I'm curious about your comment. Are you saying that in your school, if a student chooses to skip the transition year, the school will then force them to do pass level leaving cert in both maths and Irish? - regardless of their academic ability? Hopefully I am reading this incorrectly.
By the way, I am well past my school days, and did not do transition year while I was there. However, I was just browsing this forum for interest. 0 -
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I might have mislead you a bit .. If you choose to skip ty you have to do pass in all subjects. Your subjects are also chosen for you. Its just to accomodate people who want to leave school as quickly as possible with a leaving cert. Our guidance councilller described it as an opyion for weak student.. For students who want to skip ty and do the subjects they want in the level they want would have to go to a different school or just put up with ty . I hope that explains it better
That is so ridiculous :eek:0 -
I might have mislead you a bit .. If you choose to skip ty you have to do pass in all subjects. Your subjects are also chosen for you. Its just to accomodate people who want to leave school as quickly as possible with a leaving cert. Our guidance councilller described it as an opyion for weak student.. For students who want to skip ty and do the subjects they want in the level they want would have to go to a different school or just put up with ty . I hope that explains it better
Gosh - that really is not a good way to do things.
There may be very valid reasons why a student may want to finish school in five rather than six years. For example, if they planned to take a lenghty course at university, such as medicine, dentistry etc - which require all honours subjects! Students should certainly get some work experience for these courses, but could do so during school holidays, perhaps better than transition year.
Some parents may not be in a position to finance the various trips and activities involved.
This approach could also lead to a student who struggled, but was capable of perhaps one or two honours subjects, taking all pass just to get out of the system - and being held back for life
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crayolastereo wrote: »If I could go back in time I would have moved after 3rd year OP. I'm also one of the oldest in my year, I still would have been 18 for my first year of college. It was a waste of a year academically (I learnt a lot about myself, but that was just the year that was in it, same things would have happened had I skipped it). If you don't have any real ties to the school just go. I didn't like my friends/teachers/school then, I still don't like it now.
if I stay, I know I'm going to ask myself everyday "what would it have been like if I moved school"
but at the moment im thinking "what if moving schools ends up being a disaster"
im really confused. 0 -
I might have mislead you a bit .. If you choose to skip ty you have to do pass in all subjects. Your subjects are also chosen for you. Its just to accomodate people who want to leave school as quickly as possible with a leaving cert. Our guidance councilller described it as an opyion for weak student.. For students who want to skip ty and do the subjects they want in the level they want would have to go to a different school or just put up with ty . I hope that explains it better
jeepers I can hardly believe this one. What planet does this school operate from. So you could get all A/Bs in JC, decide for whatever personal/financial reasons to skip TY, and you have to do all pass subjects and subjects that are chosen for you !!!
I'm long past school and only on this page checking out things for my son doing TY next year. I'm curious why you think its such a wasted year although with the rest of the strange things your school does, I'm guessing they don't put too much effort in TY studies either.
My son's school has a full programme for the year and includes a massive volume of activities, homework, trying out potential LC subjects, Gaisce awards, charity work plus the work experience modules. They are constantly working on projects and have homework all the time. I can see such a massive amount his cousin has learnt this year in TY. They don't do the overseas trips which most schools seem do to either, but they do loads of local and national trips with the idea that they learn their own county/country and rest of their lives to travel internationally - the `cultural' benefits of which are dubious at TY level anyway.
I can fully see why you'd want to change school with this type of messing going on but what about going to a school with a good TY programme.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »I'm one of the oldest in my class so i don't need the year to ''mature.''
if you think your mature think again... I wouldn;t bring up maturity as an arguement. maturity does not exist,it's a myth, who am I to tell you how mature or immature you are? unless you're a cheese. does it go by age or wha?
IMO TY sucked and made the remainding years suck too... Why?
TY is a year to slack and I went to a well known fee-paying school where they had an excellent TY project...
I got kicked off the drama/play/show what have you by false accusations, as a reward I mooned the drama teacher... true story kinda lead the way for some behavioural problems. I mean who the **** in their right minds wants to go on school tours lead by your teachers, at 16/17 :rolleyes:
some find it hard to reimmerse themselves within academic studies afterwards, I know I did and others in my peer group. being a young adult in 6th year (18-19) can be soul destroying, you want to make a start in adulthood yet you have to listen to some boring tosser talk about his love of rocks just so you can get points to study what you love, saving animals i.e. be a vet. half way thru 6th yr we nearly took down the building. looking back, I was w/o doubt James Dean
If your parents let you skip I'd say do it I know I would given that oppurtunity again!0 -
Thought id give an update for any future 3rd years wanting to skip TY:D
In the end, I did TY.
Mainly because the other school near me were full and I didn't like the thought of moving schools, neither did my parents
As funding has greatly been reduced in the whole education department, a number of cut backs have been made to the TY programme in my school. e.g not getting to try out certain subjects.
So far, the year has been boring. I've done no homework at home, have been getting it all done in school.
We have gone on one tour already, it was very good and we are planning another tour for later this month.
The annoying thing is, that my school will be making TY optional within the next two years:mad:
Looking back, I wish i skipped. To anyone who's reading this who has doubts about doing TY, just skip it - as long as your old enough.
Since im doing it now, i might as well make the most of it. I can always use the year to brush up on my weaker subjects that il need for next year.
Thanks for all the replies guys. It helped a lot 0 -
Originally Posted by Dazza
I might have mislead you a bit .. If you choose to skip ty you have to do pass in all subjects. Your subjects are also chosen for you. Its just to accomodate people who want to leave school as quickly as possible with a leaving cert. Our guidance councilller described it as an opyion for weak student.. For students who want to skip ty and do the subjects they want in the level they want would have to go to a different school or just put up with ty . I hope that explains it better
I want to update on this. I decided to do TY. I didnt like the thought of moving schools making new friends etc... There was 5 from my year which moved schools tho. I'm regretting not moving . The year is very boring . Our school cant afford to do anything with us and i'm bored out of my mind. The amount of movies we watched last month was unbelievable . I don't think i've got homework yet and the only thing I look forward to in the week is 'Forensics' because we watch CSI. I guess its still not too late to move school but the effort ...Originally Posted by Dazza
Im on the same boat as you. In my school you can skip ty but you will have to do pass in maths irish ..... All my friends cant wait. Its just a wasted year to me 
The thought of doing ty like this for the next 8 or 9 months is daunting Fml.. 0 -
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So far, the year has been boring. I've done no homework at home, have been getting it all done in school.I don't think i've got homework yet ...
Just out of interest, would TY be better for you two if you had homework? I teach TY's and we generally try to do different things rather than the usual. Giving homework and spending the next class correcting it is the easy way. It's much harder to come with new ideas for every class. I'll give my lads lots of homework tomorrow so!
As for the boredom - could you not spend the year concentrating on something other than academic stuff? New hobby or language or something?
Just as a note for anyone else in the same position. My school is a TY compulsory sort of place too, but I have known of a few who asked nicely and were old enough so they were let skip.0 -
Just out of interest, would TY be better for you two if you had homework? I teach TY's and we generally try to do different things rather than the usual. Giving homework and spending the next class correcting it is the easy way. It's much harder to come with new ideas for every class. I'll give my lads lots of homework tomorrow so!
Most of the work we do in class is stuff that is nearly easier than what we did last year.
Me personally, i would prefer to be challenged and do new stuff this year. But im in a minority and most people would just rather just sleep, doss and mess.
Some classes are interesting. e.g science and maths (sometimes for maths we do leaving cert ord. and high. L.C questions and we do get homework once a week which is grand)
Then there's other subjects where we have got no homework at all in and each class is nearly the same stuff repeated over and over again. Your just given work and do it, or else your lying there listening to a teacher rambling on about OS maps or ''An aiseanna i mo cheantar'' for 35mins. It just makes you think, ''what's the point?''
students want the teacher to keep the class as interesting as possible and learn new things at the same time.As for the boredom - could you not spend the year concentrating on something other than academic stuff? New hobby or language or something?
its at school where i feel bored. I have taking up a new sport and started a new instrument which is keeping me busy outside school. I also plan to start improving my french this year to prepare for L.C. as it certainly won't improve in school.
I also have the Gaisce awards aswell which will keep me a bit busy.Just as a note for anyone else in the same position. My school is a TY compulsory sort of place too, but I have known of a few who asked nicely and were old enough so they were let skip.
If i could have done that I wouldn't. I'd get some very strange looks and about a million questions.
If a couple of people skipped with me, then I'd do it as I wouldn't be the only one.0 -
Just out of interest, would TY be better for you two if you had homework? I teach TY's and we generally try to do different things rather than the usual. Giving homework and spending the next class correcting it is the easy way. It's much harder to come with new ideas for every class. I'll give my lads lots of homework tomorrow so!
As for the boredom - could you not spend the year concentrating on something other than academic stuff? New hobby or language or something?
Just as a note for anyone else in the same position. My school is a TY compulsory sort of place too, but I have known of a few who asked nicely and were old enough so they were let skip.
Homework isn't the issue, the work in class is just mind numbingly easy, when in fact it should be really hard and interesting because theres time.
As for concentrating on other things, I was still up at 7 am and home at 5, just nothing got done in the intervening hours. I was equally if not more tired than I am now (6th year). There was no time to take up new things any more than there is now.
As for languages in school btw, teachers should be doing non stop oral in class, none of this bull**** going back over junior cert. I'd kill to have had that year spent on oral.0
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