Irish car exported

Break all ties · 11-03-2011 2:34pm #1

Is the VRO here informed if someone exports an irish reg car abroad and it is re-registered abroad?

spray_ball · 11-03-2011 3:09pm

depends on what country...but if it's imported into the UK... the DVLA notify the 'vehicle licensing board' of the country of origin once the vehicle is registered with them...

well that's my understanding of what happens in the UK

Break all ties · 11-03-2011 3:18pm

Ok. The car is gone much farther away than the UK.

The reason I asked is that if they don't tell the VRO, the Irish address would still be getting tax reminders, nct appointments etc for a car that is no longer in the state and is registered elsewhere.

keithclancy · 11-03-2011 4:13pm

Break all ties wrote: »

Ok. The car is gone much farther away than the UK.

The reason I asked is that if they don't tell the VRO, the Irish address would still be getting tax reminders, nct appointments etc for a car that is no longer in the state and is registered elsewhere.

Doesnt matter
I was getting those for a car I scrapped for ages, just ignore them, they can't fine on the basis that you havent paid, only if the car is on an Irish Road.

You can fill out the back of the Motor Tax Renewel form to say the car has left the state and send it back if it bothers you that much

Break all ties · 11-03-2011 4:32pm

It don't bother me at all as I have the car here with me. I was just thinking about the people living at the old Irish address.

It is very strange that the Irish authourities do not remove the cars from their systems when they are exported. So as far as they are concerned the cars have never gone anywhere and they are just bumping up the numbers of untaxed and untested cars in Ireland.

CiniO · 11-03-2011 6:15pm

What the seller should have done, was to send a letter to dep. of transport in shannon with statement that a car was sold to a foreign buyer for export, and a copy of contract of sale as a proof.
Then he/she wouldn't have any problems.
If he didn't do it, it's his/her problem.

Break all ties · 11-03-2011 6:27pm

It is my car that I have taken abroad with myself. I simply re-registered it locally.

Afaik there is no procedure to inform anyone in Ireland of export. I don't care as the Irish government won't be getting another cent off me in car tax, insurance or other penal charges. I wish them the best of luck looking for the car. Good riddance.

CiniO · 11-03-2011 6:32pm

Break all ties wrote: »

It is my car that I have taken abroad with myself. I simply re-registered it locally.

Afaik there is no procedure to inform anyone in Ireland of export. I don't care as the Irish government won't be getting another cent off me in car tax, insurance or other penal charges. I wish them the best of luck looking for the car. Good riddance.

OK you didn't say it was your car in Ireland.

If you want you can send a letter to dep of transport with statement that car was exported.
But if you don't it doesn't really change anything.
Tax reminder when tax expires is send only once.
No NCT reminders are send anymore AFAIK.
No one is going to wonder in Ireland where the car is.

Our man in Havana · 11-03-2011 6:38pm

They used to send a 3 month follow up letter for tax which was worded with many threatening statements like the local Gardaí would be sent out to look for the vehicle if it was not taxed within 10 days.

I dunno if they still bother.

Guy:Incognito · 11-03-2011 6:43pm

Is there not s part on the back of the VLC to notify them of export? Dont have one to hand.

CiniO · 11-03-2011 6:50pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is there not s part on the back of the VLC to notify them of export? Dont have one to hand.

There isn't...

dr.fuzzenstein · 11-03-2011 8:21pm

Cannot imagine why anyone would possibly want to export a car from Ireland to anywhere else.
Where is it going to?
Must be some communist country, where the same car isn't available for much less with about a ton of extras that aren't on offer here.
Unless it's some very precious car like an Aston or a Lambo or some 1920's Rolls Royce special build that is one of a kind maybe.
Bugatti?

CiniO · 11-03-2011 8:40pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Cannot imagine why anyone would possibly want to export a car from Ireland to anywhere else.
Where is it going to?
Must be some communist country, where the same car isn't available for much less with about a ton of extras that aren't on offer here.
Unless it's some very precious car like an Aston or a Lambo or some 1920's Rolls Royce special build that is one of a kind maybe.
Bugatti?

Because many second hand cars in Ireland are among the cheapest in Europe.

Break all ties · 11-03-2011 8:59pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Cannot imagine why anyone would possibly want to export a car from Ireland to anywhere else.
Where is it going to?
Must be some communist country, where the same car isn't available for much less with about a ton of extras that aren't on offer here.
Unless it's some very precious car like an Aston or a Lambo or some 1920's Rolls Royce special build that is one of a kind maybe.
Bugatti?

It has gone to an ex-communist country where cars are still very expensive.

My costs have gone down since I moved. Insurance is only €100 a year, tax €34 and yearly test €10. Take that you thieving Irish government.

CiniO · 11-03-2011 9:03pm

Break all ties wrote: »

It has gone to an ex-communist country where cars are still very expensive.

My costs have gone down since I moved. Insurance is only €100 a year, tax €34 and yearly test €10. Take that you thieving Irish government.

What is the average salary though?

dr.fuzzenstein · 12-03-2011 1:20pm

CiniO wrote: »

Because many second hand cars in Ireland are among the cheapest in Europe.

Yes, I'm sure that's why we have quite a large and thriving export market to the UK and Japan...oh wait...

Seweryn · 12-03-2011 1:43pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Yes, I'm sure that's why we have quite a large and thriving export market to the UK and Japan...oh wait...

Well, I am not sure if there is any other place in Europe that you can buy a high class car in good working order for less than a grand or not much more than that. Some cars are cheaper in Ireland than anywhere else.

CiniO · 12-03-2011 2:33pm

It doesn't even have to be a high class car.

Quickest example - Ford mondeo. Very popular on Irish road. Let's take a look at 2002.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/find/cars/for-sale/Ireland/02%20ford%20mondeo?source=all

Most of them are advertised for less than 2000 euro - some even for less than 1500euro.
The most expesive (probably the best condition) you can see advertised at about 2500euro.

Now take a look at this website:
http://allegro.pl/listing.php/search?sg=0&string=2002+mondeo&category=149`

That's a polish adverts website. Prices are under column "cena". It's in polish currency which is about 4zl = 1 euro.
So just divide price by 4.

The cheapest seem to be about 3000 euros with average price at 4000 with some of them reaching up to 5000.

It's actually almost 2x more expensive than in Ireland.

Obviously the problem is that you can't register RHD car in Poland, so they have to be converted to LHD, but for some people it's still worth it.
There are obviously some other countries where prices as well so high, but you can register RHD so importing from Ireland makes even more sense.

Break all ties · 12-03-2011 3:11pm

Indeed CiniO, car prices here in Bulgaria are silly even for what I would consider heaps of crap. A Lada that is running will easily fetch €1000 to €1500. I was offered over €3000 for my car which I bought in Ireland for €400. That will tell you how crazy it is. If a car can pass the technical test (I doubt anyone fails it judging by the heaps still driving here) it is worth money. RHD is not a problem to register in Bulgaria so long as you change the headlamps.

keithclancy · 12-03-2011 4:46pm

CiniO wrote: »

It doesn't even have to be a high class car.

Quickest example - Ford mondeo. Very popular on Irish road. Let's take a look at 2002.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/find/cars/for-sale/Ireland/02%20ford%20mondeo?source=all

Most of them are advertised for less than 2000 euro - some even for less than 1500euro.
The most expesive (probably the best condition) you can see advertised at about 2500euro.

Now take a look at this website:
http://allegro.pl/listing.php/search?sg=0&string=2002+mondeo&category=149`

That's a polish adverts website. Prices are under column "cena". It's in polish currency which is about 4zl = 1 euro.
So just divide price by 4.

The cheapest seem to be about 3000 euros with average price at 4000 with some of them reaching up to 5000.

It's actually almost 2x more expensive than in Ireland.

Obviously the problem is that you can't register RHD car in Poland, so they have to be converted to LHD, but for some people it's still worth it.
There are obviously some other countries where prices as well so high, but you can register RHD so importing from Ireland makes even more sense.

The Cheapest 2002 Mondeo in the Netherlands at the moment on Autotrader is 2750:
Link

I actually considered buying a car from Ireland and driving it over, cheaper than the UK. Although all the good cars had to have expensive headlight swapouts to pass the APK (NCT) ... :mad:

You have it easy in Ireland .. the Road Tax is dirt cheap, fuel and cars .. ffs ..

CiniO · 12-03-2011 4:58pm

keithclancy wrote: »

The Cheapest 2002 Mondeo in the Netherlands at the moment on Autotrader is 2750:
Link

I actually considered buying a car from Ireland and driving it over, cheaper than the UK. Although all the good cars had to have expensive headlight swapouts to pass the APK (NCT) ... :mad:

You have it easy in Ireland .. the Road Tax is dirt cheap, fuel and cars .. ffs ..

So few recent posts explain who and why would want to export car from Ireland.

PS. Headlight swapout doesn't necceserily need to be expensive.
Just buy second hand, from a car crashed in the back.

dr.fuzzenstein · 12-03-2011 5:06pm

CiniO wrote: »

PS. Headlight swapout doesn't necceserily need to be expensive.
Just buy second hand, from a car crashed in the back.

Absolutely right.
There seems to be something to this exporting malarkey, just looking at a second hand Mondeo in Germany, 02, 2L petrol, close enough to E6k.
http://www.gebrauchtwagen.de/autos/ford/mondeo/mondeo-2.0/GW20XN0PH8DS.html

Break all ties · 12-03-2011 5:19pm

CiniO wrote: »

So few recent posts explain who and why would want to export car from Ireland.

PS. Headlight swapout doesn't necceserily need to be expensive.
Just buy second hand, from a car crashed in the back.

I paid €50 for a set of headlights in a local scrap yard.

The one thing to be vary of is that some places make you change the rear lights as well, if they only have 1 fog light. The RHD rear foglight will be on the wrong side. Scrapyard is the best place to look for those too.

keithclancy · 14-03-2011 1:28pm

Break all ties wrote: »

I paid €50 for a set of headlights in a local scrap yard.

The one thing to be vary of is that some places make you change the rear lights as well, if they only have 1 fog light. The RHD rear foglight will be on the wrong side. Scrapyard is the best place to look for those too.

There is no requirement on which side the foglight has to be, some cars have two, some only have one and some have them on the left or right.

Looked for finding a second hand set of lights in Holland, sets on markplaats were going at aroun 100 - 150 euros.

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