The chicken or the egg?

Ghost Buster

Yeah yeah yeah another one of these threads but Im not mocking and i hope the gobsh1tes stay away... really.
But please answer this Chicken and Egg question for me.

old hippy

The egg. Stephen Fry said so on QI. So it must be true.

Ghost Buster

old hippy wrote: »

The egg. Stephen Fry said so on QI. So it must be true.

But he's a gay atheist. What would he know.Plus he's never been laid and knows nothing about eggs.

old hippy

Ghost Buster wrote: »

But he's a gay atheist. What would he know.Plus he's never been laid and knows nothing about eggs.

I'm pretty sure he's been laid

amacachi

Obviously it's the egg.

hondasam

old hippy wrote: »

I'm pretty sure he's been laid

were you there ?

A_Border_Bandit

A chicken and an egg were lying in bed. And the egg turn to the chicken and says 'I guess we know the answer to that question now...'

TheZohanS

Ireland is Catholic because at one stage if you wanted to send your kids to school you had to sign them up as Catholics and if you get married in a Catholic church you have to agree to bring your kids up as Catholics.

Contract law etc.

old hippy

hondasam wrote: »

were you there ?

I've always been there

Daegerty

A_Border_Bandit wrote: »

A chicken and an egg were lying in bed. And the egg turn to the chicken and says 'I guess we know the answer to that question now...'

Haha excellent

My name is URL

I was led to believe this thread was about eggs

sunflower27

Daegerty wrote: »

Haha excellent

You obviously got it, I didn't. can you explain??

syklops

I am about to become very unpopular.

The history and culture of Ireland has been raped and abused not too unlike the children of Ireland by various religious elements for centuries. If you look at the Irish legends that are taught in Irish schools particularly primary schools, there is a massive religious influence in them which is simply not true and only tacked on historically, quite recently. In almost every Irish legend I was taught in primary school, St Patrick pops up at the end and baptises the lead character(s), and his/her/their soul goes to heaven.

Patrick, along with other missionaries, slowly converted the people of Ireland to Christianity from Hibernian paganism, a form of religion where many of Irelands legends originally stem from. By the way by Christianity I mean Catholicism, because in those days the protestants had not started protesting yet, and therefore there was really only one version of The Truth.

To answer your question, its a bit of both. Catholicism is taught in Irish schools because one of the church's responsibilities is education. Thats why every small rural National School has a priest on its board. Like the nicotine companies, the catholic church's view is "Get them when their young"

Why does does Ireland remain catholic? Its not just the schools. My mother made me go to mass every Sunday. I don't get made to go any more, but I do get emotionally blackmailed into going if I am home at Christmas a la "Wouldn't be nice if we were all together in Mass on Christmas day, as a family". :rolleyes: I'll be there Ma.

However, today, luckily, people are beginning to question the whole thing and Ireland is beginning to change. I wont be forcing my kids to mass. Nor will my sister. Many of my friends wont either. In a few years the church will lose its strangle hold, and schools will form that dont teach religion, and a generation will pass, and ireland wont be so catholic anymore.

hondasam

sunflower27 wrote: »

You obviously got it, I didn't. can you explain??

A chicken and an egg are lying in bed.

The chicken is leaning against the headboard smoking a cigarette with a satisfied smile on its face.

The egg, looking a bit pissed off, grabs the sheet and rolls over and says "Well, I guess we finally answered THAT question."

pragmatic1

Its the egg.

johnmcdnl

Religion is taught in schools because before their were schools as we know them Ireland was a Catholic country...

Religion was one of the main things that was persecuted in Ireland for 800 years under English rule - yet they held onto the Catholic faith...

Ireland has been a Christian/Catholic country since St Paddy landed over here 1600 years ago...

and do you honestly think what the teachers tell the children in school makes them Catholic - it's what's taught at home to them...

nothing at all to do with the religion classes in schools

sunflower27

hondasam wrote: »

A chicken and an egg are lying in bed.

The chicken is leaning against the headboard smoking a cigarette with a satisfied smile on its face.

The egg, looking a bit pissed off, grabs the sheet and rolls over and says "Well, I guess we finally answered THAT question."

Ha! Got it. Thank you

hondasam

sunflower27 wrote: »

Ha! Got it. Thank you

You are welcome, I guess the answer here is the Chicken

Aodan83

When Ireland first gained independence from British rule, it was a very staunchly Catholic country. This meant religion, namely Catholicism was taught in schools, as well as the fact that the Catholic church ran most of the schools. Now things have gone somewhat in the other direction, the only reason a lot of people, children especially, would say they are Catholic is because it was the only thing they learned about religion in primary school. In religion class when I was in primary school, we weren't taught all about religion, we were taught about Catholicism. We read Bible stories and learned about Mother Treasa, no one ever thought to tell us about Hinduism or Islam.

Fratton Fred

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Religion is taught in schools because before their were schools as we know them Ireland was a Catholic country...

Religion was one of the main things that was persecuted in Ireland for 800 years under English rule - yet they held onto the Catholic faith...

Ireland has been a Christian/Catholic country since St Paddy landed over here 1600 years ago...

and do you honestly think what the teachers tell the children in school makes them Catholic - it's what's taught at home to them...

nothing at all to do with the religion classes in schools

St Patrick brought Christianity, not catholicism. The Anglo Normans brought the catholic church to Ireland.

England was a catholic country until Henry viii times and he wasn't born until 1491.

This is history 101 guys.

ricero

i enjoy religion not all of its true but its interesting for i study theology so for the bible bashers **** rite off

Cookie_Monster

Clearly the egg came first, other thing long before chickens came about layed eggs.

Colmo52

An egg and a chicken walk into a bar and the barman says, "Who first?"

J K

Fratton Fred wrote: »

St Patrick brought Christianity, not catholicism. The Anglo Normans brought the catholic church to Ireland.

England was a catholic country until Henry viii times and he wasn't born until 1491.

This is history 101 guys.

I don't think history 101 would be telling you St Patrick brought Christianity to Ireland. Folklore and myth would be a bad foundation for further study.

Ghost Buster

My name is URL wrote: »

I was led to believe this thread was about eggs

I have the same notion about easter:pac:

syklops

Fratton Fred wrote: »

St Patrick brought Christianity, not catholicism. The Anglo Normans brought the catholic church to Ireland.

England was a catholic country until Henry viii times and he wasn't born until 1491.

This is history 101 guys.

History 101 in American middle school perhaps, but never mentioned in Irish schools.

Whats the difference between Christianity in the 600th century, and Catholicism?

johnmcdnl

Fratton Fred wrote: »

St Patrick brought Christianity, not catholicism. The Anglo Normans brought the catholic church to Ireland.

England was a catholic country until Henry viii times and he wasn't born until 1491.

This is history 101 guys.

i don't need a history lesson don't worry - christianity is religion which is basically what the OP is talking about

would it be different if it was the Prodestant church that evolved in Ireland instead of Catholicism or if Jewish or Islam ended up being the main religion that basically ran the country and holds the position it did today...

The Pope was the leader of the church before the Catholic/Prodestant split and all that happened so it's basically the same thing...

Ireland was a "Christian" country long before the school system we have today evolved so

religion is learned at home - if your parent make you go to church every week your more likely to be religious than if your parents are atheists who or never go to church regardless of what you've learned in school

simple as that... yes there's going to be lots of exceptions but in general religious values are learned at home - not in schools in Ireland