Sinn Fein & Easter Lilly

Fitzerb

Anyone notice today that SF were wearing Easter Lilies despite the fact that its not even St Patricks Day. Also there is a rule in the Dail banning emblems.
Typical of SF , rules are for everyone else but not us

Poccington

Here we go...

Cú Giobach

Fitzerb wrote: »

Anyone notice today that SF were wearing Easter Lilies despite the fact that its not even St Patricks Day. Also there is a rule in the Dail banning emblems.
Typical of SF , rules are for everyone else but not us

Do you mean this rule?

Wearing of Emblems:
To maintain the decorum of Parliament, only emblems of a non-party
political nature shall be allowed to be worn in the precincts of Leinster
House, provided that this rule shall not apply to persons attending the
Distinguished Visitors Gallery.

http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/committees30thdail/standingprocedureandprivilegesd/reports/20100525.pdf
Page 15, no 12.

What party does the Lilly represent?

Fitzerb

Cú Giobach wrote: »

Do you mean this rule?

Wearing of Emblems:
To maintain the decorum of Parliament, only emblems of a non-party
political nature shall be allowed to be worn in the precincts of Leinster
House, provided that this rule shall not apply to persons attending the
Distinguished Visitors Gallery.

http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/committees30thdail/standingprocedureandprivilegesd/reports/20100525.pdf
Page 15, no 12.

What party does the Lilly represent?

You would want to look again and see what was holding the Easter Lily on to the jacket

Cú Giobach

Fitzerb wrote: »

You would want to look again and see what was holding the Easter Lily on to the jacket

I only saw a Lilly (I'm not in the habit of closely examining the apparel of TD's) and you only mentioned the Easter Lilly. If he was wearing anything else and you are going to start a thread on it, is it not up to you to actually mention it.

Fitzerb

Cú Giobach wrote: »

I only saw a Lilly (I'm not in the habit of closely examining the apparel of TD's) and you only mentioned the Easter Lilly. If he was wearing anything else and you are going to start a thread on it, is it not up to you to actually mention it.

There are two types Easter Lilies for the republican movement.

Type 1 is a Lily with a glue on the back

Type 2 is the old fashioned pin.

The Official IRA wore the Sticky Back Lilly and became know as the sticky backs.

The Provo Ira wore the old type with the pin and became known as Pin Heads.

So republicans were either stickies or pin heads.

The wearing of the Lilies today by Adams and Co held on with the pin is a statement that they were or are IRA Provos .

So theres a little bit of knowledge for you. Adams does nothing without there being a reason or statement for it and today was no different

alan85

@Fitzerb

If you have a problem with the Lilly I assume you also have a problem with the poppy? It's worn 2 weeks lead up to armistice day. It's ridiculous!

Maybe the Lilly is quite apt today since the men that gave for the free state fought for the very right that we celebrated today in the first sitting of the 31st Dáil.

I was very impressed by the Irish spoken by Michéal Martin, Joe Higgins, Enda Kenny, Eamon Gilmore, Gerry Adams and Pearse Doherty. Fair play to them!

Taken from Wiki:

"Stickies" versus "Pinheads"

At the 1967 Sinn Fein Ard Fheis a motion from the Tippearary Cummain calling for the Easter Lily to be supplied with a self adhesive backing was passed. [2] After the 1969/70 IRA split, which led to the emergence of the Provisional IRA, the Official IRA and Official Sinn Fein kept the Easter Lily with a self-adhesive backing while the Provisional's reverted to the traditional paper and pin Easter Lily. This led to the members of the Official IRA and Official Sinn Féin being referred to pejoratively as the "Stickies". On the other hand, the Provisionals became known as the "Pinheads", a nickname which has not lasted.[1]

maglite

Fitzerb wrote: »

The wearing of the Lilies today by Adams and Co held on with the pin is a statement that they were or are IRA Provos .

I've worn the lilly and I'm not IRA. I am however from a republican family. Republican != Modern IRA

M three

Fitzerb wrote: »

Anyone notice today that SF were wearing Easter Lilies despite the fact that its not even St Patricks Day. Also there is a rule in the Dail banning emblems.
Typical of SF , rules are for everyone else but not us

Great stuff, care to start a thread about something important.

What have you lined up for tomorrow, sinn fein and pancakes??

Fitzerb

M three wrote: »

Great stuff, care to start a thread about something important.

What have you lined up for tomorrow, sinn fein and pancakes??

Pancake TUESDAY was yesterday , no point in having it tomorrow.:D

I see the thread was interesting enough for you to post anyway

Cú Giobach

Fitzerb wrote: »

So theres a little bit of knowledge for you. Adams does nothing without there being a reason or statement for it and today was no different

I am quite aware of the split and the nicknames and reasons for these names.
So you are stating "Typical of SF , rules are for everyone else but not us" because he didn't use a piece of string to tie the Lilly on?
Me thinks it is the Lilly itself that annoys you, and as was said that remembers the very people who died to give us Dáil Éireann.
Fair play to them for wearing it.

Cookie_Monster

Cú Giobach wrote: »

What party does the Lilly represent?

The Green Party?

Green, natural, flowers... nature...




oh, never mind..

Fitzerb

maglite wrote: »

I've worn the lilly and I'm not IRA. I am however from a republican family. Republican != Modern IRA

I wear an Easter Lilly also and I am not against anyone wearing a Lilly but as usual this was SF claiming to be the only republicans in Ireland. Was he supporting Republicanism or supporting the Provo's of which he was never a member off.

Fitzerb

Cú Giobach wrote: »

Do you mean this rule?

Wearing of Emblems:
To maintain the decorum of Parliament, only emblems of a non-party
political nature shall be allowed to be worn in the precincts of Leinster
House, provided that this rule shall not apply to persons attending the
Distinguished Visitors Gallery.

http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/committees30thdail/standingprocedureandprivilegesd/reports/20100525.pdf
Page 15, no 12.

What party does the Lilly represent?

The SF IRA Party

Fitzerb

Cú Giobach wrote: »

I am quite aware of the split and the nicknames and reasons for these names.
So you are stating "Typical of SF , rules are for everyone else but not us" because he didn't use a piece of string to tie the Lilly on?
Me thinks it is the Lilly itself that annoys you, and as was said that remembers the very people who died to give us Dáil Éireann.
Fair play to them for wearing it.

It would answer SF better to remember the innocent people that they murdered like Mc Conville, Jerry Mc Cabe, Marie Wilson, Johnathon Ball (3) Ian Parry (12)
and let respectable republicans remember the leaders of 1916. They are not fit to wear the Easter Lilly. But as usual they claimed that for themselves and used the selling of easter lilies as fund raisers.

M three

Well done, 6 posts in and you wheel out the names of dead people.

Where do you get off referencing these people, ever think that maybe their families just want to move on and not have you using their names.

Do you have a problem with SF? If s you really should get over it, they received increased support for their mandate in the last election.

Maybe you were too busy easter lilly bashing to notice

Cú Giobach

Fitzerb wrote: »

It would answer SF better to remember the innocent people that they murdered like Mc Conville, Jerry Mc Cabe, Marie Wilson, Johnathon Ball (3) Ian Parry (12)
and let respectable republicans remember the leaders of 1916. They are not fit to wear the Easter Lilly. But as usual they claimed that for themselves and used the selling of easter lilies as fund raisers.

So you decide who can remember who regarding the history of this island, well I guess you are entitled to your opinion, but I'm not here for a "who killed who" during the troubles or the morality of said actions, only to address the OP, ie that a regulation for members of the Dáil was broken.
Maybe the Ceann Comhairle should have offered the members some string.

Lockstep

Pointless thread. Of all the things to discuss, easter lillies aren't something to get flustered over.