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Commercial Tax with no doe test

  • 09-03-2011 7:44pm
    #1
    GtiPower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭


    Hey lads,

    Bought a fiesta van cheap to get through a sticky spot before xmas but she's still driving very well so going to hang onto her awhile.

    I bought it off a 70year old man and he has been paying commercial tax on it with years but has never tested it. This is proven by looking at the previous tax discs.

    Apparently its exempt from test as its under a set weight.

    Anyone confirm is this true?

    Car is out of tax now and want to tax it but got nothing in the post to tax it and want my facts right before I go into the motor tax office.

    Thanks in advance for ant help.


Comments

  • #2
    GTDolanator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭GTDolanator


    no you NEED a DOE to tax a van i think what you mean is its been taxed privatley and not tested,which although it can be done i dont think its entirely legal


  • #3
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    GTDolanator wrote: »
    no you NEED a DOE to tax a van i think what you mean is its been taxed privatley and not tested,which although it can be done i dont think its entirely legal

    +1. This is the only thing I can think of allthough I presumed you needed a NCT to tax a car??


  • #4
    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    My cousin had a Micra van many years ago and he had to do a DOE on it.


  • #5
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    there are some small vans that did not come under the umberella of either the nct crowd or the doe crowd, ie the ford fiesta van, this van was up to a few years ago exempt from testing, if this is still the same i do not know.


  • #6
    GtiPower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭GtiPower


    No its been taxed COMMERCIALLY ie 288 a year with the last few years but never doe'd. Whereas usually you need to bring in a doe cert to commercially tax a vehicle.
    I know you can tax even a carvan vehicle privately with no test. This of course is much more expensive so im hoping to commercially tax it again without the expense of a doe. I was a mechanic for a decent while myself and know the van is in great condition its just to avoid the €90plus charge if i can


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  • #7
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    GtiPower wrote: »
    No its been taxed COMMERCIALLY ie 288 a year with the last few years but never doe'd. Whereas usually you need to bring in a doe cert to commercially tax a vehicle.
    I know you can tax even a carvan vehicle privately with no test. This of course is much more expensive so im hoping to commercially tax it again without the expense of a doe. I was a mechanic for a decent while myself and know the van is in great condition its just to avoid the €90plus charge if i can

    Unless he knew someone in the tax office and slipped them a few pound I cannot see how it can be done.

    God for bid you have an accident and the guards ask you for a cartificate of road worthiness, what will you tell them???


  • #8
    GtiPower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭GtiPower


    I doubt it though as he seemed like he didnt know the first thing about cars to be honest and was a genuine chap.

    Yes thats a good point, will probably just get it tested to save the hassle. 90+ euro every year to tell me something I already know is irritating to say the least though. I've actually seen some right buckets pass the doe test at the same time, not so strict in some places in my opinion. Still puzzled to how he got commercial tax all these years though, must be a loophole somewhere.

    Anyway thanks for all your help lads


  • #9
    cormie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    I have seen some car-vans in my searches being advertised as DOE excempt/commercial tax rate so there may be something, you could always just ring the tax office and see what the story is.


  • #10
    Slidey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    You must produce a DoE cert to tax a commercial, regardless of weight. A few years ago you could get commercials classed as workshop/recovery and they were test exempt

    The old loop hole of privately taxed small vans has been closed. Before we weren't allowed to test them in the VTN (DoE) centres unless they had an unladen weight which they didn't if they were taxed privately.

    Now that is no longer the case. The NCT would not test them unless they have seats and windows etc in the back


  • #11
    pebbledash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭pebbledash


    Slidey this may be the wrong thread, but do you know that for the folk who may have to tax their van as private whether the test changes, I mean would you still get a DOE for a van or an NCT. I thought I read that to get pay the private tax, you needed and NCT not a DOE and as you say a Van cannot be NCTd.


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  • #12
    pebbledash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭pebbledash


    Sorry lads, found the answer in another thread
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70411092


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