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"Old Cabra Road", road naming

  • 08-03-2011 10:59am
    #1
    CIE
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    I've been looking for the reason why the "old" designation remained. It's not a tertiary local road like the "Old Lucan Road" in Palmerstown,* but a major road artery and very busy to boot, just as important as the "new" Cabra Road. On top of all that, some sources claim that what is today's Cabra Road was originally called New Cabra Avenue...so why didn't the "Avenue" appelation remain? because having Cabra Road/Cabra Avenue would have been less confusing than Cabra Road/Old Cabra Road.

    *As for the "Old Lucan Road", it really should not have been made as such; the N4 through there should have been a full limited-access M4 motorway, with the original road retained intact through to Lucan complete with bridge over the M50; this is MHO, but considering the traffic situation, more tenable than the status quo.


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  • #2
    oisindoyle
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    CIE wrote: »
    I've been looking for the reason why the "old" designation remained. It's not a tertiary local road like the "Old Lucan Road" in Palmerstown,* but a major road artery and very busy to boot, just as important as the "new" Cabra Road. On top of all that, some sources claim that what is today's Cabra Road was originally called New Cabra Avenue...so why didn't the "Avenue" appelation remain? because having Cabra Road/Cabra Avenue would have been less confusing than Cabra Road/Old Cabra Road.

    *As for the "Old Lucan Road", it really should not have been made as such; the N4 through there should have been a full limited-access M4 motorway, with the original road retained intact through to Lucan complete with bridge over the M50; this is MHO, but considering the traffic situation, more tenable than the status quo.
    Well how is it confuseing ? One is called the NEW Cabra Rd and the other the OLD Cabra rd.
    The New Cabra Rd came into existance when new Cabra was built ...It was the new more acccessible route to the newly built part of Cabra.


  • #3
    ongarboy
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    oisindoyle wrote: »
    Well how is it confuseing ? One is called the NEW Cabra Rd and the other the OLD Cabra rd.
    The New Cabra Rd came into existance when new Cabra was built ...It was the new more acccessible route to the newly built part of Cabra.

    Interesting! I thought it was a distinction between an old road and newer road - not a road to older Cabra neighborhood vs road to newer seperate Cabra neighbourhood


  • #4
    CIE
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    oisindoyle wrote: »
    Well how is it confus(e)ing ? One is called the NEW Cabra Rd and the other the OLD Cabra rd.
    The New Cabra Rd came into existance when new Cabra was built ...It was the new more acc(c)essible route to the newly built part of Cabra.
    No, one is called "Cabra Road" and the other is called "Cabra Road Old". No sense in having two of them when one is not old, especially since the newer artery used to be called Cabra Avenue. If you look over in Tolka Estate, you have Griffith Road and Griffith Avenue, not Griffith Road and Griffith Road Old; far easier distinction.


  • #5
    oisindoyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    CIE wrote: »
    No, one is called "Cabra Road" and the other is called "Cabra Road Old". No sense in having two of them when one is not old, especially since the newer artery used to be called Cabra Avenue. If you look over in Tolka Estate, you have Griffith Road and Griffith Avenue, not Griffith Road and Griffith Road Old; far easier distinction.

    The New Cabra Rd has always been known as the New Cabra Rd,although the recent road signs dont state this ,however I do rememeber the old signs stateing "NEW" Cabra Rd..
    Old Cabra Rd obviously became the Old Cabra Rd after new parts of Cabra was developed


  • #6
    zagmund
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    If I recall correctly, parts of what were presumably the old N11 from Stillorgan to Leopardstown (down the hill at Stillorgan, right at the vets, past the end of Glenalbyn, around the corner and on past St Brigids church, past the end of Merville and up to the end of Brewery Road) are marked on maps as "Old Bray Road". I'm sure that must mess with some peoples head. I'm familiar with the area so it makes sense to me.

    However, I was coming in by Cabra last weekend and the whole Old Cabra Road, New Cabra Road thing struck me too. I was thinking that the "New Cabra Road" doesn't seem terribly new to me and was wondering why they don't just rename it something like Haughey Boulevard or the Via Aherne or something and leave the original Cabra Road as just that - Cabra Road.

    z


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  • #7
    Stark
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    The N3 follows the New Cabra Road. The Old Cabra road is just a regional road.


  • #8
    Victor
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    Look, its named by Dubs, what do you expect? :)


  • #9
    Carawaystick
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    Victor wrote: »
    Look, its named by Dubs, what do you expect? :)

    Yeah, if it was in Cork it's be the Back Cabra road.....

    but not according to Google
    http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.882597,-8.45619&spn=0.003656,0.013905&z=17


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