Handing in your first assignment halfway through the year...

Croppy Bhoy

First off, spare me the lecture (c wat i did there), I know I should have been doing all my homework and I'm not the messiah I'm a very naughty boy etc

Have any of the shining examples of students on here ever found themselves in the situation where they have failed to hand in a large number of weekly assignments, for whatever legitimate and understandable reason, and as such feel a bit... scared to start handing them in?

I've missed about 11 assignments in one module (passed the exam though) and I'm a bit cautious about just appearing into my first lecture with Assignment 12. If they're going to make a big deal out of it I'd rather just not bother and scrape the module by passing my exams...

Raging_Ninja

I don't think they'll kick you out of college if you hand it up. At the end of the day, it's up to you whether you want the marks or not.

Canvasser

this thread proves why we need higher fees for students.

Camilo

Canvasser wrote: »

this thread proves why we need higher fees for students.

Why yes, yes indeed sir. Keep those filthy, disgusting plebeians out i say i say!
Those ragged upstarts coming into our beacons of universal betterment(which ill have you know my great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather, on my mothers side, built. A fine gent altogether) and having the sheer audacity to attempt to improve their situation.The sheer cheek!
Why back in my day they would be driven off back to the mines and factories or strung up upon the gallows...

Education is for everyone, not just the wealthy few

Columc

No dont worry about it, just appear and hand in the assignment, lecturers dont usualy care tether way.

Im in a small calss of around 12-15 students, and we were given pre assigned groups this year(3rd year) my group had a unfimliar name in it that we had no idea who he was. Turned out he has been in our class since first year, but just never turned up to class.

Canvasser

Camilo wrote: »

Why yes, yes indeed sir. Keep those filthy, disgusting plebeians out i say i say!
Those ragged upstarts coming into our beacons of universal betterment(which ill have you know my great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather, on my mothers side, built. A fine gent altogether) and having the sheer audacity to attempt to improve their situation.The sheer cheek!
Why back in my day they would be driven off back to the mines and factories or strung up upon the gallows...

Education is for everyone, not just the wealthy few

they clearly can't be bothered to 'attempt to improve their situation'. maybe if the poster had to pay a bit more for their education then he/she would make more of an effort.

filmbuffboy

Canvasser wrote: »

they clearly can't be bothered to 'attempt to improve their situation'. maybe if the poster had to pay a bit more for their education then he/she would make more of an effort.

cant agree with you more. while i am getting free education cause i dont have the means to pay for it myself, i often wonder if education were more expensive would students actually take things more seriously.

not to generalise tho cause i know many many students work damned hard. but on the other hand many many do not

mabye if the system was based on getting free education on the grounds you achieve atleast a B, which I think most if not all people could achieve if they put in the effort.

food for thought at least

brianthebard

filmbuffboy wrote: »

cant agree with you more. while i am getting free education cause i dont have the means to pay for it myself, i often wonder if education were more expensive would students actually take things more seriously.

I don't think there is any historical evidence to support this argument tbh. I can point to newspaper articles from 100 years ago about trinner heads going on the lash and causing trouble. Plus in fairness the bad rep students have wasn't built up in a year or two.

mabye if the system was based on getting free education on the grounds you achieve atleast a B, which I think most if not all people could achieve if they put in the effort.

food for thought at least

Possibly, but a B is a 2.1. or 2.2. isn't it, that's 60%? Something like that, not too hard to get at all. But then after that you have all the arguments about grade inflation that would make this almost immediately obsolete.

filmbuffboy

brianthebard wrote: »

I don't think there is any historical evidence to support this argument tbh. I can point to newspaper articles from 100 years ago about trinner heads going on the lash and causing trouble. Plus in fairness the bad rep students have wasn't built up in a year or two.



Possibly, but a B is a 2.1. or 2.2. isn't it, that's 60%? Something like that, not too hard to get at all. But then after that you have all the arguments about grade inflation that would make this almost immediately obsolete.

i see what youre saying but surely the whole argument about grade inflation is pointless if a college can physically show inspectors that the work student x y or z is worthy of a B? I personally think the whole grade inflation argument is bull anyways cause every grade Ive recieved has been an accurate reflection of the amount of work ive put in

I suppose youre right about the past. if this is the case its very sad when you think of how many people waste their chance at a free education. I know plenty of people who finished college even during the boom, and were unemployed or working in a dead end job, mostly because they blew it and left college with a degree that wasnt worth the paper it was printed on. No harm in goin out and having fun, but free education only comes once in a lifetime also...

brianthebard

Does the college show inspectors that a students work is worthy of a grade? Is every essay sent to an external examiner? I think not. As for grade inflation, sorry but its real.

filmbuffboy

I know external examiners come in at the end of every academic year and spot check to make sure colleges are grading appropriately.

do you really think Irish colleges are throwing out A's & B's to people who dont deserve them?

Croppy Bhoy

I didn't realise there were external examiners. From where?

Why would they be making exams easier, surely that would only cheapen the degree for those who already have it (such as those setting the exams)? Is it impossible that people might be getting smarter?

hokeypokey

How is higher fees going to help anything?, just means there would be more rich tossers about than poor ones...

brianthebard

filmbuffboy wrote: »

I know external examiners come in at the end of every academic year and spot check to make sure colleges are grading appropriately.

do you really think Irish colleges are throwing out A's & B's to people who dont deserve them?

A's, yes fairly often.

B's, since that includes a 2.2., yes absolutely 100%. You have to actually put in effort to fail in Irish unis these days, you don't get failed for plagarising ffs.

Zillah

Canvasser wrote: »

this thread proves why we need higher fees for students.

I totally see where you're coming from, but I'm willing to tolerate the wasters to empower the rest.

filmbuffboy

brianthebard wrote: »

A's, yes fairly often.

B's, since that includes a 2.2., yes absolutely 100%. You have to actually put in effort to fail in Irish unis these days, you don't get failed for plagarising ffs.

this angers me. so what exactly will i be coming out with at the end of it all after a long hard slog if joe soap gets B average for doing next to nothing

brianthebard

filmbuffboy wrote: »

this angers me. so what exactly will i be coming out with at the end of it all after a long hard slog if joe soap gets B average for doing next to nothing

Not really sure. I guess its about how you present your accomplishments on you cv, but I suppose a postgrad is nearly mandatory these days.

Columc

These days a degree isn't as important to the employer then what extra stuff you have done. Show extra achievements you have done in your field that makes you stand out, its a competitive market outside uni every year when thousands of students graduate, don't just expect you getting 1.1s in college makes it easier for you to find a job.

And like brianthebard said. post-grads are pretty much the new undergrad, pretty much a have unless your top of your class and have done good achievements and get hired before you graduate