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Films where the bad guy gets away with it? *READ SPOILERS AT OWN RISK!!!*

  • 06-03-2011 9:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭


    Ive found that these endings are always brilliant or terrible, never really mediocre, they either work or they dont and can in a way ruin a film that might have been very good up til then or make a good film brilliant. But i was trying to think of some after watching a film with one recently and only a few come to mind

    Two are:
    Chinatown which i thought was an excellent ending as its quite a dark film anyway with the final line really tying the whole movie together.

    and

    Arlington Road which i felt was trying too hard to be controversial in explicitly having the antagonists win however i did leave the movie annoyed and maybe that was the in fact the point.

    what are some more examples of this and do they work or not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭spadesaspade


    the exorcist, i heard that baddie is still popping around to a few homes:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    The Town.
    Would have been much better if Affleck was shot to bits at the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    No Country for Old Men
    ...kind of I suppose. Nobody really wins except those pesky Mexicans :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    The Usual Suspects.
    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭dr gonzo


    liah wrote: »
    The Usual Suspects.
    :cool:

    Wow, completely forgot that very obvious but very brilliant one!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,091 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    My first idea was mentioned in the first post: but what about the Godfather films? Even in Part III, in which
    Michael Corleone loses his daughter then later dies himself - but he was on the way out anyway, and the new bad guys took over.

    I wouldn't count films in which the bad guy wins a temporary victory but loses in a sequel e.g. the Star Wars films. Some others are debateable e.g. Se7en:
    John Doe may have "won", but didn;t get to enjoy his "victory", what with being dead and all that
    . Leon has the same problem, I suppose.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    The first one to spring to mind is not a classic film
    I am of course talking about Swordfish, with John Travolta and Huge Jackman, dodgy hacking, big explosions and questionable acting. Anyway at the end we see that Travolta's character Gabriel gets the money and keeps on with his one man war against "the terrorists".
    The Usual Suspects is an excellent example as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭LittleBook


    The Town.
    Would have been much better if Affleck was shot to bits at the end.

    Similary Heat
    where Val Kilmer gets away
    .

    The Wicker Man -
    bad guys kill good policeman and prolly get away with it

    Zodiac -
    serial killer gets away with it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Recently watched
    Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. Was amazed that after all he did he just drives off and roll credits. Great ending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭D-FENS


    Fallen
    American Psycho (At least i think he did..)
    Silence of the Lambs
    Hannibal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Revenge of the Sith for obvious reasons. ;)
    Infernal Affairs - Ming survives when another mole in the kills Yan as Mark Wahlberg isn't there to shoot him in the face. But his survival is the price he pays (until the sequel anyway) and what makes it a better film than The Departed.

    And depending on which cut:
    The Good, The Bad, The Weird - 'The Weird' is revealed be the "Finger Chopper" criminal 'The Good' mistook 'The Bad' and The Weird lives to fight another day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    Primal Fear - at least I think he got away with it. Been a while since I've seen it.
    Infernal Affairs - perhaps not quite as the "bad guy" wins but seems to have changed his ways. The US remake The Departed changes this part of the ending - for the worse imo.

    Edit: snap ^^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭D-FENS


    Interview with the Vampire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    Arlington Road: I watched it all along and expected a flag waving American Victory. Was genuinely surprised and thought the film really benefited from it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    Fight Club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭kdevitt


    memento - the guys essentially a serial killer with a dicky memory


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    The Usual Suspects
    Goodfellas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭cosmic


    Irreversible
    -
    the guy who gets his head smashed in by the fire extinguisher isn't Le Tenia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Watch gangster movies from the 30's and you will find a lot of films where the bad guy gets away. "The good guy always wins" and "crime doesn't pay" only really came in with the hollywood code of conduct in the 40's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    not to be too pedantic but its kinda pointless putting spoiler tags on text without naming the movie first, you dont know what you're reading spoilers for!

    although then if you name the movie first then someone will know the bad guy wins, confusing thread is confusing :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭TheWarrior


    Memories of Murder
    Saw it Sunday night- wow, just wow!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    inglorious basterds. hans landa ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭kdogkeith


    Pans Labyrinth Spoiler: The Girl dies and so does the bad dude, I loved the film but i didnt really like the ending

    Sorry if you guys see the white text when you dont want to, i dont know how to do the grey thingy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭rednik


    The long good Friday. Poor old Bob Hoskins is plagued from start to finish in the movie by the provos. Then in the last scene when he gets into the car, the look on his face when he has a gun put to his head. A great film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Ellian


    The Last Seduction - Linda Fiorentino's character makes off with the loot and leaves patsy to fry for her crimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Phonebooth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Not so obvious, but
    Sherlock Holmes
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    The Fast & Furious Spoiler;
    Where Vin Diesel drives off in the Supra at the end
    :pac: :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    I love how this thread is full of titleless spoilers that you can't even risk hovering over anyway. Totally pointless presentation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Infernal Affairs as has already been mentioned.

    I also though Collateral missed a really good opportunity for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,064 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    LittleBook wrote: »
    Zodiac -
    serial killer gets away with it
    Well, its a true story and well he did get away with it. Probably the most famous one to do so since The ripper.
    bonerm wrote: »
    I love how this thread is full of titleless spoilers that you can't even risk hovering over anyway. Totally pointless presentation.

    On the other hand, if somebody goes

    Usual suspects:
    ramdom spoiler text

    It kinds lets everyone know that the bad guy gets away with it in usual suspects


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Andre80Johnson


    The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Funglegunk


    Fight Club.

    Not really...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Funglegunk


    krudler wrote: »
    not to be too pedantic but its kinda pointless putting spoiler tags on text without naming the movie first, you dont know what you're reading spoilers for!

    although then if you name the movie first then someone will know the bad guy wins, confusing thread is confusing :pac:
    I agree with Krudler. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,128 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    "Blue Streak" :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,064 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    The devils advocate


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