ISRAEL INTERVENES IN LIBYA...FOR GADDAFI!

digme

In a move that surprises all but Middle East experts, Israel has promised Libya’s dictator of over 40 years, Colonel Gaddafi, 50,000 troops to aid in crushing rebels set on overthrowing his his murderous rule. According to news sources inside Israel, “troops” are being hired across Africa, Uganda, Sudan, Chad and the Central Africa Republic, including Al Qaeda fighters, to be deployed against demonstrators and rebel forces currently involved in heavy fighting in a two week old attempt to overthrow the Libyan ruler that has left thousands dead.

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So the Libyans want freedom and Israel is doing everything in it's power to keep their old pal gaddafi in power.I hope they fail miserably.Surely the un security council won't let this state have it's way with Libya?

charlemont

Israel, yet again proving its the worlds no 1 terrorist state..

Sunnyisland

Can we believe that source ? just asking.

The Waltzing Consumer

Jesus wept!

Mods should lock this crap. Your source is an extremely anti-Israel website, which has nothing to do with veterans and thinks that 100% of all problems in the world are caused by Jews and Israel. What next? You quote some nazi website?

Palmach

realies wrote: »

Can we believe that source ? just asking.

No. Total rubbish.

MagicMarker

The thread title is in capitals, it must be true!

Einhard

I don't think that source is credible.

Wildlife Actor

"I hope he will go down,'' Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak said in a recent CNN interview.

Oh yea, and that was about Gaddafi, so I think it's time to close the thread for now.

Overheal

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

Jesus wept!

Mods should lock this crap. Your source is an extremely anti-Israel website, which has nothing to do with veterans and thinks that 100% of all problems in the world are caused by Jews and Israel. What next? You quote some nazi website?

It might have been more polite to simply say OP, your source of information is rather obscure. Do we have any other supporting sources of information for this claim?

After all it's a rather serious allegation that could have considerable consequences.

The Waltzing Consumer

Overheal wrote: »

It might have been more polite to simply say OP, your source of information is rather obscure. Do we have any other supporting sources of information for this claim?

After all it's a rather serious allegation that could have considerable consequences.

If it had been some rag like the Daily Mail, you would perfectly right. But if someone starts using anti-Semite websites as a news source, politeness goes out the door.

It would be like using the KKK website as a news source for why black people or gays may be bad, it is ridiculous and unless the OP is a child, they should really know better.

Overheal

After googling Gadaffi and Israel I pulled up a complete contradiction to the OP: that Gadaffi has been and as recently as a month ago in support of Palestine; and more importantly against Israel. Not for idealism but because the issue propped up his regime. Criticism of Israel solidified his base in Libya. It would seem very unlikely that Israel would want Gadaffi's rule to succeed in any way.

I also find it hard to believe he would accept Al Qaeda fighters that he has been claiming have been drugging the Libyan people with fairy pills or something.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/israel-and-palestine/110304/gaddafi-libya-israel-palestinians-power

JERUSALEM, Israel — Down to what may be his bitter end, Muammar Gaddafi has tried to use the Palestinian issue as a diversion to prop up his dictatorial rule and to present himself as the high priest of Arabism.

So it was that right after the ouster of neighboring Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, with the risk of a revolt in Libya rising, Gaddafi last month issued a call on Palestinian refugees to mass at Israel's borders holding olive branches in their hands.

''In this context of Arab popular revolutionary movement, Palestinian refugees must walk on Palestine with women and children." he said

Indeed, over the years many of the colonel's pronouncements on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute have sounded almost as bizarre as his recent claims that Al Qaeda is drugging Libya's youth into rebelling. But they have also been calculated to project Gaddafi as a leading Arab nationalist worthy of support within and beyond Libya's borders.

Libya, in Gaddafi's view, remained true to Arab nationalism while other Arab regimes betrayed it.

''All Arab states which have relations with Israel are cowardly regimes,'' he said in the same Feb. 13 speech.

After leading a coup in 1969, Gaddafi, styling himself as a disciple of Egyptian pan-Arabist leader Gamal Abdul-Nasser, made it a point to be the most uncompromising of leaders when it came to Israel. He did not call the Jewish state by name, but rather the "Zionist enemy." Rhetorically, at least, he espoused mobilization of the entire Arab world to destroy Israel.

''When Nasser died in 1970, Gaddafi saw himself as his successor,'' said Yehudit Ronen, a Libya specialist at the Dayan Center for Middle East Studies at Tel Aviv University and political scientist at Bar Ilan University. "He raised the flag of the destruction of Israel. He understood the potential to coalesce the masses under his flag. Israel became a means for him to break down tribal loyalties in Libya and channel them to strengthen the legitimacy of the regime."

When Egyptian President Anwar Sadat decided to make peace with Israel and traveled to Jerusalem in 1977, Gaddafi considered him a traitor and encouraged the idea of assassinating him, said Ronen.

In Palestinian politics, Gaddafi supported the most radical factions and splinter groups, including the terrorist known as Abu Nidal, according to Atiyeh Jawabra, a political scientist at the West Bank's al-Quds University. Abu Nidal waged assassinations against leaders of Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement who supported a political accomodation with Israel.

"He did not support our people, he was a supporter of Abu Nidal for a long time,'' Jawabra said. "Everyone opposed to Arafat he supported."

The sense that Gaddafi was not a true friend of the Palestinian cause was accentuated in 1982 when he did not lift a finger to help Palestinian Liberation Organization fighters besieged by the Israeli military in Beirut, Lebanon. Instead, he advocated that they all become martyrs by committing suicide, Jawabra recalled.

At times, Gaddafi found it expedient to tone down his rhetoric, especially when he sought to bring to an end sanctions imposed on Libya for the 1988 Lockerbie bombing of a Pan Am flight over Scotland in which 270 people were killed.

And he eventually came up with his own solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict more palatable to western ears than simply calling for Israel's destruction. The only way to end the strife, he once said, is to have Israel and Palestine merge into one state, Isratine.

"The region which lies between the Jordan and the Mediterranean is too small to accommodate two states," he said in 2002. "It is like trying to put two bodies into one item of clothing or two men wearing the same pair of trousers. This is impossible."

In 2003, to better his ties with the West, he gave up Libya's programs for weapons of mass destruction, earning a resumption of relations with the United States.

In recent years, Gaddafi's son, Saif al-Islam, had tried to project a more moderate foreign policy image for Libya. As part of that he has stressed that he recognizes the Holocaust as a historical fact, in contrast to widespread Holocaust denial in the Arab world. Saif al-Islam has said if the Arab world recognizes the Holocaust, perhaps Israel will recognize the nakba, or Palestinain catastrophe that accompanied Israel's creation in 1948.

This didn't stop his father from declaring during a U.N. General Assembly speech in 2009 that Israel was behind the assassination of John F. Kennedy. The motive, according to Gaddafi, was that Kennedy wanted to investigate Israel's Dimona nuclear reactor.

If and when Gaddafi falls, it seems few tears would be shed by either Palestinians or Israelis.

"I hope he will go down,'' Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak said in a recent CNN interview.

Jawabra, the Palestinian analyst, said: ''His history is full of positions against the Arab nation and human rights. The Libyan people are our brothers. We support the people, not Gaddafi, a dictator. From my point of view, he must go."

Denerick

Let me see... Incoherent rant... Capitalised title... shades of anti semitism...

Scofflaw

Locked as spurious. I have to point out that if I went through this thread and everyone received their just desserts, then several of you would have infractions for things like accusations of anti-Semitism. As it is, Digme banned for 2 days for trolling (or gullibility), thread closed, and we'll consider the rest of you as reacting ill-advisedly to the OP trolling.

moderately,
Scofflaw